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Points: 89372 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 26 2008 at 04:15
Bless you, Alanerc for bringing us all out of the woodwork to discuss a fantastic band.  It's about time this happened.

I've now finally had the chance to hear all studio albums (except Merci) and early indication shows that Weidorje-era Magma is for me.  K.A. was also terrific, but I need to listen to them all again, because one listen isn't sufficient.

However, I didn't hear any Didier Lockwood on any of the albums, have I missed something?
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Points: 4981 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 26 2008 at 04:17
Didier Lockwood is only on some of the live albums, most notably Live/Hhai
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Ah, hence why I didn't hear him then.  I've heard Live/Hhai, so I'll listen to it again, to refamiliarise mysel with it.

I'm also going to listen to Flying Luttenbachers cover of De Futura soon.
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Points: 3659 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 26 2008 at 10:55

After years as a name I knew but never actually listened too I bought my first Magma album a month ago (K.A). It's quite unlike anything else in my collection but I found myself warming to it after a few listens and deffinitely a band I want to check out further. I've been trying to get hold of Kobaia but no luck yet.
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Points: 8844 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 26 2008 at 13:07
Originally posted by James James wrote:

Originally posted by Pnoom! Pnoom! wrote:

Originally posted by James James wrote:

Wurdah Itah is very good so far, I must say.  I wasn't expecting it be quite like this, bearing in mind it was used for the Tristan et Iseult film.



Wurdah Itah is my least favorite of the albums Magma released during their glory era.


Well it's credited as Vander, but yes, it's a Magma album.  I'm enjoying it very much actually.

Is the Theusz Hamtaahk Trilogie worth getting?  It's expensive, but I think it maybe quite essential, as it puts all three parts of it together.


Don't bother with the Theusz Hamtaahk trilogy box-set thingy.  The live versions of MDK and Theusz Hamtaahk on Retrospektiw are better, and who needs a live Wurdah Itah? 

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Points: 7744 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 26 2008 at 13:10
Originally posted by Nightfly Nightfly wrote:

After years as a name I knew but never actually listened too I bought my first Magma album a month ago (K.A). It's quite unlike anything else in my collection but I found myself warming to it after a few listens and deffinitely a band I want to check out further. I've been trying to get hold of Kobaia but no luck yet.



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Points: 9008 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 26 2008 at 13:30
Originally posted by James James wrote:

Ah, hence why I didn't hear him then.  I've heard Live/Hhai, so I'll listen to it again, to refamiliarise mysel with it.

I'm also going to listen to Flying Luttenbachers cover of De Futura soon.

You should!  It's intense!  It's not as groovy as Magma's, but it's very intense and "Flying-Luttenbacher-ish"  if you know what I mean.

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Originally posted by rileydog22 rileydog22 wrote:

Don't bother with the Theusz Hamtaahk trilogy box-set thingy.  The live versions of MDK and Theusz Hamtaahk on Retrospektiw are better, and who needs a live Wurdah Itah? 


How about the DVD?

In fact, all those Magma DVDs - not many reviews up here.  Anyone have any thoughts/recommendations/warnings?
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Points: 35804 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 26 2008 at 13:58
I enjoy that V/A - Hamtai! - Hommage A La Musique De Christian Vander (2CD) tribute.  Some of it is very good.


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Points: 7003 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 26 2008 at 14:46
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

I enjoy that V/A - Hamtai! - Hommage A La Musique De Christian Vander (2CD) tribute.  Some of it is very good.
 
I heard some low grade samples and I was pretty impressed - I must get round to buying a copy.
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Points: 3834 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 26 2008 at 15:04
Originally posted by alanerc alanerc wrote:

So, I listened to Magma
And you all call'em geniuses?

they suck


you suck

anyone with even the slightest intelligence will understand that there is no such thing as music that sucks. that said, there is no such thing as good music. it's all an opinion, so stop impeeding your judgements fool, you either like it or you don't, period.
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Points: 4981 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 26 2008 at 15:18
Originally posted by kibble_alex kibble_alex wrote:

Originally posted by alanerc alanerc wrote:

So, I listened to Magma
And you all call'em geniuses?

they suck


you suck

anyone with even the slightest intelligence will understand that there is no such thing as music that sucks. that said, there is no such thing as good music. it's all an opinion, so stop impeeding your judgements fool, you either like it or you don't, period.


From an objective standpoint, you are wrong.  From a subjective one, you are right.  And yes, I have rather more than "even the slightest intelligence."

And anyone with even the slightest intelligence should know better than to use such phrases as that.
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Originally posted by laplace laplace wrote:

Originally posted by <font size=5>Avantgardehead</font> Avantgardehead wrote:

I liked this band for about a week. Not much going on that would really hold my attention or provide an enjoyable listening experience.


lol

Why is it that if one's name suggests a liking towards a particular genre/movement, he is expected to like every single band in it?
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Originally posted by tszirmay tszirmay wrote:

Originally posted by BroSpence BroSpence wrote:

First time I heard Magma I liked them.  Then all the other times I did as well.  Its pretty cool that way.
 
Wow! Your are surely a unique specimen. Wink Every single Magma fan that I had met  told me that the first time was more awkward than losing their virginity (Talk about sucking Confused). I remember hearing Kohntarkosz (one of my top 50 albums all-time) totally perplexed, in fact laughing at the sheer insanity of it all. But the second run through was a mindblast , deep into the night , candles alight and very loud . It was a revelation! That was in1975 ... I can only imagine the SHOCK of some neophyte seeing them live front row center! Life altering experience. (Just Top or Paga alone is worth the trauma)


You're reaction to Magma is similar to my reaction to Koenjiyahaki.
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Points: 4702 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 26 2008 at 15:48
Originally posted by alanerc alanerc wrote:

Deep Purple Rules


Not particularly, no.

Anyone here familiar with Vander's jazz work? Any albums you'd recommend?
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Points: 83 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 26 2008 at 15:57
Magma is aFantastic band
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Points: 4981 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 26 2008 at 15:58
Originally posted by Jimbo Jimbo wrote:

Originally posted by laplace laplace wrote:

Originally posted by <font size=5>Avantgardehead</font> Avantgardehead wrote:

I liked this band for about a week. Not much going on that would really hold my attention or provide an enjoyable listening experience.


lol

Why is it that if one's name suggests a liking towards a particular genre/movement, he is expected to like every single band in it?


He isn't.  He is, however, expected to like the best bands in it.  And Magma is clearly in the upper echelon of avant-garde bands.
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Points: 4702 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 26 2008 at 16:00
'Echelon' is a fancy word for 'basement', right?
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Points: 4981 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 26 2008 at 16:06
That wasn't very clever.
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Points: 4702 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 26 2008 at 16:08
Hell, I laughed.
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