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alanerc
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Topic: Magma Posted: April 24 2008 at 17:11 |
So, I listened to Magma And you all call'em geniuses?
they suck
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laplace
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Posted: April 24 2008 at 17:13 |
worst possible post
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BaldFriede
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Posted: April 24 2008 at 17:15 |
alanerc wrote:
So, I listened to Magma And you all call'em geniuses?
they suck
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It is difficult to like Magma at first hearing. You should give them some time. Which album did you hear?
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BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue.
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Shakespeare
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Posted: April 24 2008 at 17:19 |
I don't call them all geniuses. Just Vander. And Top. And Paganotti. And Blasquiz. And any one who contributed to the language or any composition on any album.
I am a Magma fanboy. They are more than geniuses, they are spiritual gurus, they are prophets, they are a rare breed of visionaries.
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moreitsythanyou
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Posted: April 24 2008 at 17:22 |
They're not for everyone. If you hated it at first listen to the point where you needed to make a thread about how much they suck, drop them and listen to something closer to your tastes.
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<font color=white>butts, lol[/COLOR]
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Moatilliatta
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Posted: April 24 2008 at 17:56 |
^Right, not for everyone, but they clearly do not suck.
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www.last.fm/user/ThisCenotaph
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Logan
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Posted: April 24 2008 at 17:59 |
laplace wrote:
worst possible post |
Naw, it iss a hündïn post. The enlightened ones, those who follow the path of Kreuhn Kohrmann, are amused. ;) Too bad for him that he shall be left behind when we leave for Kobaïa unless he perpetually recites this mantra from now on... "Kobaïa iss de Hündïn, Zeuhl iss de hündïn, Magma iss de hündïn. Hortz fur dëhn stekëhn west. Amen"
Shakespeare wrote:
I don't call them all geniuses. Just Vander. And Top. And Paganotti. And Blasquiz. And any one who contributed to the language or any composition on any album.
I am a Magma fanboy. They are more than geniuses, they are spiritual gurus, they are prophets, they are a rare breed of visionaries.
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Let us pray for the unbeliever's salvation. .............................................. Seriously, I really dig Magma, but of course it's not going to be for all tastes. Viva la difference. Are there any Zeuhl bands that you do like?
Edited by Logan - April 24 2008 at 18:03
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Rocktopus
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Posted: April 24 2008 at 18:19 |
I made a very witty insult about alanerc, but I guess I shouldn't post it.
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Over land and under ashes
In the sunlight, see - it flashes
Find a fly and eat his eye
But don't believe in me
Don't believe in me
Don't believe in me
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Logan
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Posted: April 24 2008 at 18:29 |
If one can't stand the heat, stay out of the Magma. The cool thing about Magma followers is that they rarely get hotheaded when discussing the group with those that feel burned by Magma.
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Squonkman
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Posted: April 24 2008 at 18:46 |
I have seen Magma twice live, have a DVD and a few albums. So I have given them a very good listen and a chance to impress me. Vastly overrated imo. They do nothing for me. Seeing them live is interesting, but ultimately neither time I saw them spurred me to run out and listen to their albums. Its really closer to avant garde classical music than progressive rock. While other people around me were in musical nirvana, there was also a lot of people who headed for the exits. I think that's rude, so I stayed throughout both times, but they are definitely a style that you either like or could simply do without and not miss it. The odd thing is, I am into all kinds of classical music, and symphonic prog, but the Kobaian chanting just loses me. I need to be emotionally invested in the music and/or lyrics, and the chants do nothing for me emotionally.
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Shakespeare
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Posted: April 24 2008 at 18:51 |
Squonkman wrote:
I have seen Magma twice live, have a DVD and a few albums. So I have given them a very good listen and a chance to impress me. Vastly overrated imo. They do nothing for me. Seeing them live is interesting, but ultimately neither time I saw them spurred me to run out and listen to their albums. Its really closer to avant garde classical music than progressive rock. While other people around me were in musical nirvana, there was also a lot of people who headed for the exits. I think that's rude, so I stayed throughout both times, but they are definitely a style that you either like or could simply do without and not miss it. The odd thing is, I am into all kinds of classical music, and symphonic prog, but the Kobaian chanting just loses me. I need to be emotionally invested in the music and/or lyrics, and the chants do nothing for me emotionally. |
They don't claim to be progressive rock. In fact, they deny it.
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Squonkman
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Posted: April 24 2008 at 19:02 |
Shakespeare wrote:
Squonkman wrote:
I have seen Magma twice live, have a DVD and a few albums. So I have given them a very good listen and a chance to impress me. Vastly overrated imo. They do nothing for me. Seeing them live is interesting, but ultimately neither time I saw them spurred me to run out and listen to their albums. Its really closer to avant garde classical music than progressive rock. While other people around me were in musical nirvana, there was also a lot of people who headed for the exits. I think that's rude, so I stayed throughout both times, but they are definitely a style that you either like or could simply do without and not miss it. The odd thing is, I am into all kinds of classical music, and symphonic prog, but the Kobaian chanting just loses me. I need to be emotionally invested in the music and/or lyrics, and the chants do nothing for me emotionally. |
They don't claim to be progressive rock. In fact, they deny it.
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But they are listed here as a progressive rock band. For people who are perusing this site, and come upon Magma, they might have a certain preconception of what they might sound like. If they understand going in, this is closer to avant garde classical, with jazz and opera influences, they might not be as disappointed when they hear it.
Edited by Squonkman - April 24 2008 at 19:05
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laplace
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Posted: April 24 2008 at 19:04 |
Magma sound totally like prog, but just better.
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tuxon
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Posted: April 24 2008 at 19:07 |
It's easy to unserstand people being not impessed by Magma, simple solution, is to don't listen to them.
for me they are the best, so listen if you want to else try them and if not impressed abandom them,
so what's really the problem?
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russellk
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Posted: April 24 2008 at 19:09 |
Not progressive rock? Magma has to be rock of some kind, doesn't it?
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stonebeard
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Posted: April 24 2008 at 19:10 |
I think their music is at best really freakin' good. But I find that a lot of the time it's weird for the sake of being weird, squirmy, cult-ish (but not in a fun way like Gong), and a way for a lot of proggers to name drop them and appear more 'enlightened" than normal folk.
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Squonkman
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Posted: April 24 2008 at 19:14 |
stonebeard wrote:
I think their music is at best really freakin' good. But I find that a lot of the time it's weird for the sake of being weird, squirmy, cult-ish (but not in a fun way like Gong), and a way for a lot of proggers to name drop them and appear more 'enlightened" than normal folk. |
I agree, there is definitely a cult aspect to it, and a kind of "we understand and you never will get it" thing going on with the rabid collectors, a we're cool because we like Magma thing......
btw, having said that, there is no doubt that creating and performing that type of music with a wholly created language takes talent, creativity and dedication, but it still needs to sound pleasing in the end for me to keep listening, no matter how complex and difficult it was to create it......
Edited by Squonkman - April 24 2008 at 19:21
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laplace
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Posted: April 24 2008 at 19:16 |
Yes, yes, it's ok to resent Magma fans; they're proven to have a greater scope for understanding.
*giggles
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tuxon
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Posted: April 24 2008 at 19:16 |
So stony Magma is a name drop band?
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stonebeard
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Posted: April 24 2008 at 19:19 |
tuxon wrote:
So stony Magma is a name drop band? |
Well, for newbies into prog, I certainly think it is, insofar as that goes in the realm of prog. Mags like Classic Rock often toss in "MDK" into a compilation list and say "this stuff is way crazy, man. It's the quintessential token weird prog album.
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