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moonlapse 
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 Posted: March 16 2007 at 12:11 |
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But again I cannot confirm this, but if its true then American Footballers can't cut it on the rugby field 
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But that was a hundred years back, so you can't make assumptions based on that. I'm sure with the proper training NFL'ers could definitely cut it on the rugby field. But you would have to raise the pay scale significantly, there is no incentive for them to play rugby otherwise.
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Posted: March 16 2007 at 17:39 |
moonlapse wrote:
Cheesecakemouse wrote:
But again I cannot confirm this, but if its true then American Footballers can't cut it on the rugby field |
But that was a hundred years back, so you can't make assumptions based on that. I'm sure with the proper training NFL'ers could definitely cut it on the rugby field. But you would have to raise the pay scale significantly, there is no incentive for them to play rugby otherwise.
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I don't think they would have the stamina, and also a lot of them would fail drug tests as in the rest of the world, steroids are seen as a serious offence.
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Minimalist777
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Posted: March 30 2007 at 22:24 |
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I like American football better. Rugby seems convoluted to me whenever I've watched it. However at the same time, I wished it would be shown more then practically never over here in the USofA since it does seem intriguing if I could figure out whats going on!
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Rubidium
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Posted: March 31 2007 at 01:00 |
Cheesecakemouse wrote:
Anyway, I don't know how true this is, but someone once told me that roughly a hundred years ago a US rugby team played a NZ rugby team, NZ absolutely nailed them, so in embarrasment the Americans made up their own sport - American Football, so no tiny nation (ie NZ only had around a million people back then) can humiliate a superpower on the sports field. But again I cannot confirm this, but if its true then American Footballers can't cut it on the rugby field |
American Football was first played in the 1860's and evolved into it's current form after about 50 years, so the sport wasn't created over night. As such, I highly doubt that this story is true. Also, it is my understanding that American football players started wearing helmets about 100 years ago because the Powers That Be (College officials, since the sport was played mostly by colleges at the time) were worried by the sport's death toll. At any rate, I love American football but I didn't vote since I've never seen a rugby match. It's not very popular in the United States and I've never seen it on TV. I don't even think Ohio State has a rugby team, so I don't even know where I could watch a match, which is a shame because it's a sport that I've been interested in watching for quite a while...
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Posted: March 15 2008 at 20:35 |
Wales have won the GRAND SLAM in the 2008 Six Nations!! 
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Posted: March 15 2008 at 22:34 |
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I suppose I'm a little biased considering that I watch American football 21 Sundays a year and I've never seen so much as a single rugby scrum.
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Posted: March 15 2008 at 23:55 |
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hmmm, of the future? i think american football. rugby is, worldwide, more popular now, but i think US football is going to expand in the future. its spread to Canada already, where they have their own take on it (little bit strange but basically the same).
And im kind sick of this, rugby players are so much tougher cause they dont wear pads thing. Ive had friends that plays both sports and hes banged up year round, not only in rugby season. ive brought it up before and he says there about the same. He likes playing rugby more, i think hes better at it, but they both hurt the same. personally, i like football better, but thats because i grew up with it. watched it every sunday, went to every friday night game at highschool, every MSU game, i love it. im sure rugby fans can say the same about their sport. neither is 'better' really, but i do think football is going to get much bigger than it already is.
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Posted: March 19 2008 at 08:47 |
Whilst I love Rugby Union (and therefore currently hate the Welsh  - enjoy the Grand Slam you swines!) I have to say I don't understand American Football; an earlier comment made mention of an average 'play' being 8 seconds long - I can't comment on that but I do know when I've seen it in the past there appears to be an awful lot of standing around, stopping & starting... By comparison, Rugby (even given its current annoying incarnation, which appears to be more about a kicking game than the free flowing play I like to watch) seems to be a much more fluid game.
Oh, and Jody?
"Run away guys, a real hard man's coming..."
"Grrr - bloody pansified armour wearing softies - GWAARRRGH!!!!"
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BTW, @ our Aussie members: is there a difference between rugby and Australian rules football? if so, what is it? |
Simple - Rugby is a sport, Aussie Rules is an oxymoron  ; legalised GBH as a spectator sport.
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Posted: March 19 2008 at 20:20 |
Jim Garten wrote:
Whilst I love Rugby Union (and therefore currently hate the Welsh - enjoy the Grand Slam you swines!) I have to say I don't understand American Football; an earlier comment made mention of an average 'play' being 8 seconds long - I can't comment on that but I do know when I've seen it in the past there appears to be an awful lot of standing around, stopping & starting... By comparison, Rugby (even given its current annoying incarnation, which appears to be more about a kicking game than the free flowing play I like to watch) seems to be a much more fluid game.
Oh, and Jody?
"Run away guys, a real hard man's coming..."
"Grrr - bloody pansified armour wearing softies - GWAARRRGH!!!!"
NaturalScience wrote:
BTW, @ our Aussie members: is there a difference between rugby and Australian rules football? if so, what is it? |
Simple - Rugby is a sport, Aussie Rules is an oxymoron ; legalised GBH as a spectator sport. |
Why the big outburst about the Grand Slam? back to Rugby we have had a slump of a World Cup this GS was a big come back for the team. Rugby is better than Soccer in my opinion, more action, though some of my friends do prefer Football and wrestling.
Edited by PROGMAN - March 19 2008 at 20:23
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Posted: March 20 2008 at 15:39 |
TheProgtologist wrote:
Cheesecakemouse wrote:
TheProgtologist wrote:
Mascodagama wrote:
TheProgtologist wrote:
In the future???
Football is already the dominant sport!!!!!!!
Guess which one I picked?
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The one in which the chaps all wear suits of armour because they're afraid of getting hurt, I'd imagine.
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That's so you don't get killed.Ever get hit by a few 250-300lb lineman and linebackers over and over and over again for an hour?
I played all the way from pee-wee leagues through high school and had multiple surgeries to repair a torn ACL,MCL and PCL and also had numerous broken fingers,hands,a wrist,an ankle and collarbone,I played through and with all my injuries except for the knee,which prevented me from ever playing again.Just think what it would have been like without padding? |
yeah Rugby
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Sorry,I had to laugh.
It just always amuses me when people think that just because football players are well protected that it isn't a brutal and painfully violent sport.If you haven't ever played the game don't knock that aspect of it.
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I always say if you want to know what it is like to to get hit in American FB is to run full speed afor about 15 feet into a wall. Thats is why they make pads and helmets. I don't see that speed in physical struggles in Rugby.
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Posted: March 20 2008 at 15:49 |
Jim Garten wrote:
Whilst I love Rugby Union (and therefore currently hate the Welsh - enjoy the Grand Slam you swines!) I have to say I don't understand American Football; an earlier comment made mention of an average 'play' being 8 seconds long - I can't comment on that but I do know when I've seen it in the past there appears to be an awful lot of standing around, stopping & starting... By comparison, Rugby (even given its current annoying incarnation, which appears to be more about a kicking game than the free flowing play I like to watch) seems to be a much more fluid game.
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You are right Jim and there is a reason for it. FB has set plays and you have 25 seconds from the time the play ends to the time the next one is run. Signals are sent from the sidelines to the Quarterback who then relays the info to the rest of the team on the field. The defense does likewise usually through the Middle Linebacker. There are set patterns for the team to line up at line of scrimmage (where the last play stopped). The offense must line up 7 people on the line and 4 people behind it. The defense can set anywhere they want. on their side of the line. If the Quarterback sees the defense in a set that he thinks is not right for the play he will audible and change the play on the line before the 25 seconds expire. When the ball is snapped (passed from the Center to the QB) the play begins. The play continues until the ball carrier is tackled. At that point the play stops where the ball is when the player is down and the pattern is repated. Offense must get 10 yards in 4 plays or they turn the ball over to the other team. So when you see the offense punt (a form of drop kick) it means they didn't get the 10 yeards and they kick it to establish field postion away from their goal
hope that helps.
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Posted: March 20 2008 at 16:08 |
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I much prefer rugby to American football and Canadian rules football. I also like Australian Football very much -- that's fun. But I still like football as in soccer best (poetry in motion, can be).
I never developed any appreciation for North American football -- the padding, the half-times, the touchdown dances, the time between plays, the pure tedium. There even seems to be a need to use cheerleaders to try to make it entertaining.
EDIT: If you play the sport, I'm sure it's more satisfying to watch. Like a greta many boys, soccer was a staple pastime (that and floor hockey for me). And I did play rugby in school for a short time, but much preferred playing soccer...
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Posted: March 23 2008 at 13:16 |
moonlapse wrote:
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There are individual NFL players making more than that in a year.
So if the Rugby boys are so tough, and football players are such pansies, why don't they try cutting it in American football?
Because, they can't 
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Why would tough guys want to play a game with pansies in the first place? Your argument doesn't make any sense.
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Posted: March 23 2008 at 13:20 |
I'm from Argentina so I haven't played American Football so...
I used to play in a cub rugby, threw 4 years, this year I left to play a football(not american) tournament with friends.
Rugby is really an interesting sport, as much as fun, but dangerous, but don't think it's so dangerous to other American sports! 
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Posted: March 23 2008 at 13:23 |
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Let me say this 1st- I think Rugby players are the toughest athletes in the world. They are STUDS.
What do I like better? American football- I grew up with it- it's a huge part of our culture. Can you blame me?
I wish I got the chance to watch more Rugby though- very fun to watch....
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Posted: March 24 2008 at 11:33 |
I've just gone for Rugby (of course... ) which now has 18 points...
now, would that be two tries, two penalties and a conversion, or, if Leicester Tigers have anything to do with it, 6 penalties??
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Posted: April 14 2008 at 19:54 |
Rugby Union is my favourite, - Llanelli Scarlets. As the late Ray Gravell said "West is the Best", and Llanelli Scarlets are better than the Ospreys. also has anybody heard of Gaelic Football, Rugby Sevens and Rugby League. Celtic Crusaders (a Welsh RUGBY LEAGUE team based in Bridgend, South Wales) are hoping to go to the Super League, that's the biggest league in Europe apparently, but I'm not to familiar with RL though.
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Posted: April 14 2008 at 20:07 |
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I voted for Rugby. I've really only seen it maybe four or five times, but I remember it being very exciting. Football, on the other hand, is pretty much the death of me. I've fallen asleep in every football game I've watched!
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