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Dean
Special Collaborator Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
Posted: April 03 2008 at 04:28 | |
How many times I can say this? - The reasons for including one artist CANNOT be used to justify including a different artist. Malmsteen would be judged on his own by his own recordings and not in relation to any other guitarist or their work.
ps: be careful how you use the word "stupid"
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bluesynight
Forum Senior Member Joined: March 03 2008 Status: Offline Points: 103 |
Posted: April 03 2008 at 06:43 | |
so you saying that if tony macalpine(its an example, im not asking to add him) plays with planet x, and planet x became planet x after he joined it, and his solo project is closely related to planet x, then he should be here?
p.s im not asking to judge/add planet x, or macalpine, im just want to understand this policy. |
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Dean
Special Collaborator Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
Posted: April 03 2008 at 07:03 | |
If by "his solo project is closely related to Planet X" you mean it is a Jazz/Rock Fusion album that meets our definition of Jazz/Rock Fusion then he would be considered for inclusion - however it is up to the Jazz/Rock Fusion Team to assess the work and make that decision, but if the solo albums were just classic rock, or neo-classical metal, or whatever, then he would not be included.
Again, this has nothing to do with Satriani. |
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: April 03 2008 at 07:04 | |
^ Like it or not, but it does matter which musician you're talking about. In the case of Tony MacAlpine his albums are prog (fusion), so he can be added on the strenght of his discography alone. In other cases what you said above might apply ... musicians may be added as solo albums if they played in an important prog band. But IMO this should only be done if their solo albums are at least compatible with prog, and if they're not really prog then the artist should be added as prog-related.
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BaldJean
Prog Reviewer Joined: May 28 2005 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 10387 |
Posted: April 03 2008 at 09:44 | |
Joe Satriani reminds me a lot of Steve Hackett; their guitar tones are very similar (at least on the albums I have heard of Satriani; I don't know them all). I would have no problem with his inclusion
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: April 03 2008 at 09:52 | |
^ I must remember to get around to listening to the three Steve Hackett vinyls I bought about a year ago ...
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bluesynight
Forum Senior Member Joined: March 03 2008 Status: Offline Points: 103 |
Posted: April 03 2008 at 13:18 | |
of course its got something to do with satriani, i made some points, and "you" made some points about your policy's. and i just tried to understand this policy's better, and i did. the only reason i used planet x is because im a really big fan, and not because i tried to add macalpine, maybe satriani really shouldn't be here, but at list i have a clue about ppl/band that should be here but they not here (but this is for other argument).
thanks any way, i done with this argument. |
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: April 03 2008 at 13:32 | |
^ Well, maybe you're done with the argument ... but if you like you can come over to my website and help us build a list of great guitar albums. There you can also vote whether the Satriani albums are prog or not.
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bluesynight
Forum Senior Member Joined: March 03 2008 Status: Offline Points: 103 |
Posted: April 03 2008 at 15:16 | |
sure!
whats the address. |
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Angelo
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Posted: April 03 2008 at 15:35 | |
He's got you there Mike - this is probably the first time you promoted your site without providing a link
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ISKC Rock Radio
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TheProgtologist
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Posted: April 03 2008 at 15:50 | |
It definitely is,that glaring error on Mike's part left me speechless.You're slipping Mike!
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Easy Livin
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Posted: April 03 2008 at 15:57 | |
Must be an imposter... where's the real Mike!!!????
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Dean
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Posted: April 03 2008 at 15:58 | |
Mike's got a website?
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: April 03 2008 at 16:31 | |
As a matter of fact I left the link out intentionally because I had posted it in another thread today and I really don't want to spam the place. But since he asked: Of course it's the fascinating Ratingfreak.com! |
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Atavachron
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Posted: April 03 2008 at 16:32 | |
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Angelo
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Posted: April 03 2008 at 17:30 | |
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ISKC Rock Radio
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Avantgardehead
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Posted: April 04 2008 at 04:40 | |
Petrucci's here because he plays down-tuned guitar-driven music with heavy distortion, chugging riffs, modern rock progressions, and insane solos and that's all that's needed to pass as progressive metal these days.
Edited by Avantgardehead - April 04 2008 at 04:41 |
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Atavachron
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Posted: April 04 2008 at 04:45 | |
^ well does he avoid the plastic, vapid commercial crap that shows up on almost every Satch album? I love Satriani but he's recorded some God awful stuff that's purely intended for mass appeal.. nothing wrong with that but it's a reason one could site for non-inclusion at a prog site
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Avantgardehead
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Posted: April 04 2008 at 04:54 | |
Satch does seem to recycle an awful lot of stuff, mostly those blasted blues riffs, ewww. But he seems like a more genuine guitar player to me for some reason that I can't explain...
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bluesynight
Forum Senior Member Joined: March 03 2008 Status: Offline Points: 103 |
Posted: April 04 2008 at 06:00 | |
1)in his solo album, were did you heard modern rock progressions? 2) heavy distortion ? no its not enough to be prog. 2)his solo album is pure SHRED, there are allot others that are not here (including satch).
he plays for 30 years, what do you expect. and i rather listing to him recycle his music, then to hear him ripoff other band like DT did on they last album. ps i LOVE the blues riffs(Pentatonic) |
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