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BaldJean
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Posted: March 15 2008 at 04:17 |
cuncuna wrote:
BaldJean wrote:
Catherine Deneuve: "Repulsion", ""Belle de Jour", "Le dernier Metro" Charlotte Rampling: "Il Portiere di Notte" ("The Night Porter"), "Farewell My Lovely", "Zardoz" Sigourney Weaver: "Alien", "Gorillas in the Mist", ""Death and the Maiden" Isabelle Huppert: "Une affaire de Femmes", "Pa Pianiste", "Malina" Renée Soutendijk: "De vierde Man" ("The Fourth Man"), "Abwärts" ("Out of Order"), "Inside the Third Reich" Geraldine Chaplin: "Doctor Zhivago", "Remember My Name", "Cria Cuervos" ("Raise Ravens") Hanna Schygulla: "Die Ehe der Maria Braun" ("The Marriage of Maria Braun"), "Ansichten eines Clowns" ("The Clown"), "Lili Marleen" Angela Winkler: "Die Blechtrommel" ("The Tin Drum"), "Die verlorene Ehre der Katharina Blum" (The Lost Honor of Maria Blum"), "Messer im Kopf" ("Knife in the Head") Katharine Hepburn: "The African Queen", "Woman of the Year", "Bringing Up Baby" Julie Christie: "Don't Look Now!", "Fahrenheit 451", "Doctor Zhivago"
to name 3 movies of each I forgot to add Isabelle Adjani. oh well, I knew I would forget someone
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Still, nothing impressive (though I can't seriously claim I've seen all those). And... ¡¡¡¿¿¿ZARDOZ - Doctor Zhivago - Farenheit 451 (incredibly lame) - ALIEN - Gorillas in the mist???!!!... no thanks.
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ah, we definitely have different tastes then. Fahrenheit 451 is not
lame at all in my opinion. and Zardoz is perhaps the craziest SF movie
of all times, starring Sean Connery and Charlotte Rampling. "Gorillas
in the Mist" is one of the best movies with Weaver of all times; only
beaten by her role in "Death and the Maiden". I like those "lame"
movies where on the surface not much seems to happen
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cuncuna
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Posted: March 15 2008 at 11:16 |
Regarding Farenheit 451, the book is everything the movie is not. Zardoz... though I can see some appeal in the oddity, it certainly won't go into my "memorable" list.
Edit: I don't mean any offense by this, but that list sounds more like a vintage bondage fetish party poster selection. ¿Where's Holly Hunter, for example? ¿Or Judy Davis?.
Edited by cuncuna - March 15 2008 at 11:26
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BaldJean
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Posted: March 15 2008 at 13:32 |
cuncuna wrote:
Regarding Farenheit 451, the book is everything the movie is not. Zardoz... though I can see some appeal in the oddity, it certainly won't go into my "memorable" list.
Edit: I don't mean any offense by this, but that list sounds more like a vintage bondage fetish party poster selection. ¿Where's Holly Hunter, for example? ¿Or Judy Davis?.
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haven't seen enough movies with them, so they did not appear on my list. but feel free to add whomever you like. I could have added lots more though; as I said, I definitely missed Isabelle Adjani, for example. as to "Zardoz": that movie is a hate-or-love movie; for me it is love. and I am a great Truffaut fan and like his adaptation of "Fahrenheit 451"
Edited by BaldJean - March 15 2008 at 13:55
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cuncuna
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Posted: March 15 2008 at 16:57 |
Most things are. Zardoz was a good laugh for me, and a bit of stomach sickness after seeing too much naked areas of Sean Connery. Judy Davis was spectacular in Barton Fink and in Naked Lunch. Holly Hunter... I'm not sure if it is her, or the way the Coen Brothers use her as art material, but her perfomance on Raising Arizona should've been rewarded. Alien is a movie I just don't like because it is too straight as narration, but I can see the work behind, and the fact that it features a woman as the heroe makes it valuable somehow. And let's not forget those talented actresses I plan to include in my meteor menacing planet earth movie ... At leats your list reminded me of that "Whatever happened to baby Jane" movie. And "The day of the locust", though I'm not quite sure why. Death and the maiden is an adaptation from a book of Chilean writter, wich is weird given that 95% of chilean population can barely writte or talk. Uhm.. I do suspect I'll check some intriguing titles of your reply. Also, I'll call sean Connery to yell at him for making a movie psychedelic in underwear...
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Posted: March 27 2008 at 04:16 |
BaldJean wrote:
"Gorillas in the Mist" is one of the best movies with Weaver of all times; only beaten by her role in "Death and the Maiden". |
It seems we're both fans of Sigourney, but I cannot believe you haven't mentioned her role in 'The Ice Storm':
In my opinion her finest 'proper' acting role (yes, even including "Gorillas in the Mist").
Coincidentally - one of my favorite pictures of her:
You & Friede moonlighting as style icons?
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BaldJean
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Posted: March 27 2008 at 12:03 |
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Posted: March 27 2008 at 16:53 |
I think the first four on that lists are the betteractresses, but certainly not my faves
Victoria April, Zabou Breitman, Elsa Zylberstein, Agnes Jaoui, Emmanuelle Beart are in my top 5
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let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword
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BaldJean
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Posted: March 27 2008 at 17:39 |
Sean Trane wrote:
I think the first four on that lists are the betteractresses, but certainly not my faves
Victoria April, Zabou Breitman, Elsa Zylberstein, Agnes Jaoui, Emmanuelle Beart are in my top 5 |
you probably mean Victoria Abril. the others I don't know, except for Emmanuelle Beart
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Posted: March 27 2008 at 22:36 |
I like only sulfurous actresses from 60's / 70's B-grade underground cinema
From this list I will vote for Geraldine Chaplin despite that my preference goes for Josephine (Chaplin).
Edited by philippe - March 27 2008 at 22:46
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Posted: March 28 2008 at 07:12 |
BaldJean wrote:
Sean Trane wrote:
I think the first four on that lists are the betteractresses, but certainly not my faves
Victoria April, Zabou Breitman, Elsa Zylberstein, Agnes Jaoui, Emmanuelle Beart are in my top 5 |
you probably mean Victoria Abril. the others I don't know, except for Emmanuelle Beart
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Abril, yes of course
The other three are typical French actresses also doing movies of their own.
Jaoui usually teamsup with her husband JP Bacri
BTW: Deneuve I never thought of as an excellent actress, she's iconic and has had many roles written for her. Huppert is a much stronger actress, but she's always reaching for extremes in her roles
Adjani I used to love during the 80's, but she started losing the plot in the Claudel film, than the other film with The St Bartholomy Massacres. I think she's only two two movies since the millenium. She's a complete capricious diva that nobody wants to deal with anymore.
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let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword
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BaldJean
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Posted: March 28 2008 at 07:47 |
Sean Trane wrote:
BaldJean wrote:
Sean Trane wrote:
I think the first four on that lists are the betteractresses, but certainly not my faves
Victoria April, Zabou Breitman, Elsa Zylberstein, Agnes Jaoui, Emmanuelle Beart are in my top 5 |
you probably mean Victoria Abril. the others I don't know, except for Emmanuelle Beart
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Abril, yes of course
The other three are typical French actresses also doing movies of their own.
Jaoui usually teamsup with her husband JP Bacri
BTW: Deneuve I never thought of as an excellent actress, she's iconic and has had many roles written for her. Huppert is a much stronger actress, but she's always reaching for extremes in her roles
Adjani I used to love during the 80's, but she started losing the plot in the Claudel film, than the other film with The St Bartholomy Massacres. I think she's only two two movies since the millenium. She's a complete capricious diva that nobody wants to deal with anymore. |
Deneuve was ideal for movies like "Repulsion" or "Belle de Jour", two of my favorite movies; I couldn't imagine any other actress in these movies
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Posted: March 28 2008 at 07:57 |
BaldJean wrote:
Sean Trane wrote:
BaldJean wrote:
Sean Trane wrote:
I think the first four on that lists are the betteractresses, but certainly not my faves
Victoria April, Zabou Breitman, Elsa Zylberstein, Agnes Jaoui, Emmanuelle Beart are in my top 5 |
you probably mean Victoria Abril. the others I don't know, except for Emmanuelle Beart
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Abril, yes of course
The other three are typical French actresses also doing movies of their own.
Jaoui usually teamsup with her husband JP Bacri
BTW: Deneuve I never thought of as an excellent actress, she's iconic and has had many roles written for her. Huppert is a much stronger actress, but she's always reaching for extremes in her roles
Adjani I used to love during the 80's, but she started losing the plot in the Claudel film, than the other film with The St Bartholomy Massacres. I think she's only two two movies since the millenium. She's a complete capricious diva that nobody wants to deal with anymore. |
Deneuve was ideal for movies like "Repulsion" or "Belle de Jour", two of my favorite movies; I couldn't imagine any other actress in these movies
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Say your picture of Sig Weaver in yourfirst post.... was it not taken from the movie Half-Crescent Moon or something (this was an 80's movies where she plays a call-girl)
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let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword
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Posted: March 28 2008 at 08:18 |
Jim Garten wrote:
It seems we're both fans of Sigourney, but I cannot believe you haven't mentioned her role in 'The Ice Storm':
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I agree! Stunning and deeply moving. A must see. I love Don't Look Now so much vote for Julie Christie here. Jeanne Moreau and Mia Farrow are probably my own favorites. Don't Look Now, Repulsion, Belle de Jour, Alien (and both the Fassfinder movies)... not impressive, and Doctor Zhivago & Farenheit 451 incredibly lame?? Sure its not its not just tastes in films that are lame, Cuncuna? I do hate the stupid follow up(s) to Alien, though.
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BaldJean
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Posted: March 28 2008 at 08:31 |
"Don't Look Now" is one of my all time favorites; the end still freaks me out, although I know it is coming; when I first saw the movie I was totally shocked. my all time favorite movie, however, is "Rashomon" by Akira Kurosawa
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Posted: March 28 2008 at 12:32 |
Had you posted Audrey instead of Katherine I would have voted for her...
Out of those, I really think Isabelle Huppert tops the chart.
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Posted: March 28 2008 at 19:33 |
I see the topic, And bam ! Charlotte Rampling comes to mind. So I'm thinking I'm going in to see Natalie Kidman/Portman, Amy Adams, Renee Zellwiggout et al. Surprise surprise, actual actresses.
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Posted: April 04 2008 at 14:54 |
I go with Katherine Hepburn. Great body of work and she has worked with some of the greats....Cary Grant,Spencer Tracy,Humphrey Bogart and Henry Fonda.
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Posted: April 23 2008 at 21:21 |
I will never forget the performance of a disturbed C. Rampling in the disturbing ''NIGHT PORTER''
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Posted: April 23 2008 at 22:13 |
The one I can't stand is Geraldine Chaplin, what about:
- Jody Foster: Most of their roles are outstanding, except Maverick of course.
- Irene Papas: Fantastic actress, normally ignored by Holywood fans, her role in Z with Yves Montand or Zorba the Greek are incredible.
- Giullietta Massina: Just watch her performance in La Strada or Julieta of the Spirits (Don't know oif the translation is right)
- Greta Garbo: The Divine, outstanding in Queen Christina and Anna Karenina
- Judi Dench: Fabulous actress from the Royal Shakespeare Company.
- Bette Davis: Dangerous, The Private Lives of Elizabeth and Essex (If it wasn't for Errol Flynn, the movie would had been even better)
- Ingrid Bergman:For Whom the Bell Tolls and Csablanca are enough.
Just to mention a few.
Iván
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