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prog4evr
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Posted: March 25 2008 at 04:18 |
p0mt3 wrote:
Relayer is the best thing Ye sever managed to make. CttE is overrated greatly, everything else is hit or miss with me....
I think everything between Fragile and Relayer (including those albums themselves) is the material that everyone should remember and treasure, because it all went downhill from there, unfortunately.
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Agree with everything above, except...Awaken on GFTO! Perhaps the only redeeming thing Yes did post-Relayer!
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TGM: Orb
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Posted: March 25 2008 at 08:34 |
cacho wrote:
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In my personal opinion (changed from last week after a relisten or two):5 Stars - Close To The Edge, Tales From Topographic OceansClose To The Edge is the perfect example of studio dedication to getting an album just right. Anderson's lyrics reach the level of enjoyable, and he and the band do not make the mistake of throwing in tacky attempts at ideas.It was the perfect introduction to Yes for me, and, in my opinion, their best effort that I've heard.Tales From Topographic Oceans really showcases the experimental side and the musicianship of Yes. White provides a couple of superb drum solos, and the opener is one of the greatest tracks ever recorded. A couple of weak spots, but they can be overlooked in context, I think.Not recommended for a starter, since I hated it until I got into the right mindframe to listen to it as a whole. The remaster's a little annoying, since you have to dash to the CD player to avoid the damn bonus auditions on the end.4 Stars - Going For The One, Fragile3 Stars - The Yes Album, RelayerI'll expand later.
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Yeah I'm quite jelous of your reviews... But The Yes Album a 3 star? I'll read your review...
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I'll write my review... eventually. Busy with giving a truly excessive amount of stars to Crimson albums at the moment. I do enjoy The Yes Album on every listen, and I like the fairly accessible style, and there are no major let-downs, but there are no tracks that *really* standout to me, like, say, South Side Of The Sky and Mood For A Day on Fragile, or all of Close To The Edge, or The Revealing Science Of God and Nous Sommes Du Soleil on Tales From Topographic Oceans. I think the reason nothing stands it is: it basically feels to me like the band wasn't quite sure as to where they wanted to go with it. You have otherwise classy tracks like Yours Is No Disgrace ruined by so many vocal repeats. On Perpetual Change, for instance, there are a lot of blunt 'thubs' that don't really seem to be there for a good reason. They don't seem to have the arranging prowess yet that is part of the classic Yes formula. I can understand why some people would really like it, but it's never going to escape the bound of 'good' for me. Some great moments, loads of potential, but nothing that really grips me and keeps my interest throughout.
Following CTTE I put on Tales just to give it another chance. I
have only been able to enjoy the second half, and even then I was still
a bit iffy on it. TONIGHT IS THE NIGHT THOUGH! I love friggin' TALES!
My god, what have I been missing out on! Everything on that album is
glorious. The keyboard solos, Howe's wonderful harmonic phrasing and
progressions, Jon's strange lyrics and vocals. Alan White brings it
to the table too. I mean I liked the guy before, but on this album he
shows he is just as good a drummer as Bruford and now one really needed
to worry about his departure. |
I'm particularly fond of Howe's classical guitar on The Ancients, myself. One of the many highlights of yon album.
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Blacksword
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Posted: March 25 2008 at 09:23 |
Yes didn't put a foot wrong in the 70's, with the arguable exception of Tormato. Even that has a few gems. Asked to come up with a favourite Yes album, I would have problems. I like Fragile, CTTE, and GFTO fairly equally, to be honest. The best songs they ever wrote:
South side of the Sky
Roundabout
Starship Trooper
Heart of the Sunrise
CTTE
Revealing Science of God
Turn of the century
Awaken
Machine Messiah
My introduction to Yes was actually 90125, back in 1984. I still think it's a classic album and it was liking Andersons voice so much, that led me to investigate their other albums.
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TGM: Orb
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Posted: March 25 2008 at 09:29 |
Hm. Just going by 5 songs.
1. South Side Of The Sky, not only is it *utter perfection*, but I can also identify with it more than I'd like to. 2. The Revealing Science Of God (Such a stunning opening) 3. You And I. I don't know quite why, but this struck me more than either of the other CTTE songs. 4. America (Long version). 100% bow to a progressive band brave enough to do an absolutely classic cover of a Simon And Garfunkel Song. 5. Mood For A Day. Should I give this award to a 3 minute classical guitar solo? Why not?
6 would be Siberian Khatru, 7 Would probably be The Ancients, despite that random vocal section.
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Posted: March 25 2008 at 09:38 |
BroSpence wrote:
Following CTTE I put on Tales just to give it another chance. I have only been able to enjoy the second half, and even then I was still a bit iffy on it. TONIGHT IS THE NIGHT THOUGH! I love friggin' TALES! My god, what have I been missing out on! Everything on that album is glorious.
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Blacksword
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Posted: March 25 2008 at 09:38 |
mmm, not sure about their take on 'America' It's always left me cold. They seem to have stripped away all the feeling from the song. On the original the music compliments the melancholy of the lyrics. It's not clear why they bothered to cover it. Thats just my opinion..
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Posted: March 25 2008 at 09:43 |
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mmm, not sure about their take on 'America' It's always left me cold. They seem to have stripped away all the feeling from the song. On the original the music compliments the melancholy of the lyrics. It's not clear why they bothered to cover it. Thats just my opinion.. |
For what it's worth, I like the performance of it on KtA a lot better than the original studio cover.
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Norbert
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Posted: March 25 2008 at 12:51 |
NaturalScience wrote:
Here's my appreciation of Yes, which I have stated several times on this forum: in my prog searches, I have yet to find a band with the excellence of output that Yes produced from 1970-1977. I have made excellent finds on this site; indeed, the entire Canterbury genre is a gold mine, but to me Yes is the prog pinnacle. I enjoy all the albums from that period every bit as much as I did when I discovered them close to 20 years ago. |
You almost saved me typing, the only difference is in the number of years.
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Posted: March 26 2008 at 16:12 |
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Here's my appreciation of Yes, which I have stated several times on this forum: in my prog searches, I have yet to find a band with the excellence of output that Yes produced from 1970-1977. I have made excellent finds on this site; indeed, the entire Canterbury genre is a gold mine, but to me Yes is the prog pinnacle. I enjoy all the albums from that period every bit as much as I did when I discovered them close to 20 years ago. |
Agree with that; most bands can only dream about putting out material as brillaint as Yes did in that period. Even Yes can only Dream about it now
I think the same could be said for Genesis too.
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Posted: March 26 2008 at 16:22 |
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The Quiet One
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Posted: March 26 2008 at 16:27 |
TGM: Orb wrote:
Hm. Just going by 5 songs.1. South Side Of The Sky, not only is it *utter perfection*, but I can also identify with it more than I'd like to.2. The Revealing Science Of God (Such a stunning opening)3. You And I. I don't know quite why, but this struck me more than either of the other CTTE songs.4. America (Long version). 100% bow to a progressive band brave enough to do an absolutely classic cover of a Simon And Garfunkel Song.5. Mood For A Day. Should I give this award to a 3 minute classical guitar solo? Why not?6 would be Siberian Khatru, 7 Would probably be The Ancients, despite that random vocal section.
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oh great I thought I was the only one that The Ancient was rather weak cause the vocals, but I really think that Jon's voice in Relayer(album) is much weaker, not awful but barely the classic Jon's lovely voice.
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Posted: March 26 2008 at 16:44 |
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oh great I thought I was the only one that The Ancient was rather weak cause the vocals, but I really think that Jon's voice in Relayer(album) is much weaker, not awful but barely the classic Jon's lovely voice. |
Gee. I like all the vocals in the Ancient - especially the last section (i.e. "And I heard a million voices singing). I also think his work on Relayer is brilliant - you think the vocals on "Soon" are weak? Maybe his most moving performance, I think (always brings a tear to my eye).
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Posted: March 26 2008 at 16:47 |
NaturalScience wrote:
cacho wrote:
oh great I thought I was the only one that The Ancient was rather weak cause the vocals, but I really think that Jon's voice in Relayer(album) is much weaker, not awful but barely the classic Jon's lovely voice. | Gee. I like all the vocals in the Ancient - especially the last section (i.e. "And I heard a million voices singing). I also think his work on Relayer is brilliant - you think the vocals on "Soon" are weak? Maybe his most moving performance, I think (always brings a tear to my eye). |
Oh, but I'm saying overall! They're rather low pitched than his lovely refined voice...
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Posted: March 26 2008 at 18:00 |
cacho wrote:
TGM: Orb wrote:
Hm. Just going by 5 songs.1. South Side Of The Sky, not only is it *utter perfection*, but I can also identify with it more than I'd like to.2. The Revealing Science Of God (Such a stunning opening)3. You And I. I don't know quite why, but this struck me more than either of the other CTTE songs.4. America (Long version). 100% bow to a progressive band brave enough to do an absolutely classic cover of a Simon And Garfunkel Song.5. Mood For A Day. Should I give this award to a 3 minute classical guitar solo? Why not?6 would be Siberian Khatru, 7 Would probably be The Ancients, despite that random vocal section.
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oh great I thought I was the only one that The Ancient was rather weak cause the vocals, but I really think that Jon's voice in Relayer(album) is much weaker, not awful but barely the classic Jon's lovely voice. |
I love the vocals on most of The Ancient, I just find that 'Irya, Samse' random names bit overly trying to be clever (read: pretentious). In Close To The Edge, he can really display his lyrical intelligence without coming off badly. Relayer (specifically The Gates Of Delirium, Soon excepted) was not my cup of tea, either, but this is an appreciation thread, so that's a story for another day.
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Posted: March 26 2008 at 18:05 |
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Posted: March 26 2008 at 19:03 |
I just love Jon Anderson's voice, it's so filled with emotion...
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The Quiet One
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Posted: March 26 2008 at 20:32 |
prog4evr wrote:
p0mt3 wrote:
Relayer is the best thing Ye sever managed to make. CttE is overrated greatly, everything else is hit or miss with me....
I think everything between Fragile and Relayer (including those albums themselves) is the material that everyone should remember and treasure, because it all went downhill from there, unfortunately.
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Agree with everything above, except...Awaken on GFTO! Perhaps the only redeeming thing Yes did post-Relayer! |
gees how about the supreme Drama!!! Such an album that IMO it can reach Relayers magnitude, a pitty for the vocals it could have been another classic and I now I would listen to it much more frequently!
How about The Yes Album, Yes, both awsome albums one better than another but still, great organ playing from Tony.
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Posted: March 29 2008 at 18:23 |
This morning I listen to Then, after a long time.
I did'n figure out in the past how good are the early Yes recordings!!
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Posted: March 29 2008 at 22:20 |
NaturalScience wrote:
cacho wrote:
oh great I thought I was the only one that The Ancient was rather weak cause the vocals, but I really think that Jon's voice in Relayer(album) is much weaker, not awful but barely the classic Jon's lovely voice. |
Gee. I like all the vocals in the Ancient - especially the last section (i.e. "And I heard a million voices singing). I also think his work on Relayer is brilliant - you think the vocals on "Soon" are weak? Maybe his most moving performance, I think (always brings a tear to my eye).
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That last section - Leaves of Green, or whatever it's called - always gives me a warm fuzzy feeling inside ; same goes for And You And I. I've never understood the mixed opinions on Anderson's voice...he obviously doesn't have insane range like Hammill or Walsh, but damn his voice is what heaven sounds like. I remember not being particularly impressed with his range but when I REALLY paid attention to Close to the Edge and Heart of the Sunrise, he hits some really tricky spots and extreme highs too. So yea, I basically like all his vocals PERIOD; I could probably go on all night talking about Yes but I'll spare it this time...
Edited by jimmy_row - March 29 2008 at 22:23
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