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Real Paradox
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Joined: January 20 2008
Location: Lisbon
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Points: 174
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Posted: March 23 2008 at 16:01 |
Tool is a mix... and bands that are a mix are hardly understood... Tool is for me a mix of art rock/metal/alternative (myspace genre status at my point of view), but they are much more than this( that's where the art rock comes), well the truth is I can't stand a whole album of the band, but I must say they play metal in a very interesting way (art rock subject again). Point is...just listen to the god damn band...hell with the whole label this and label that...(thats the art rock virus again ).
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It is what keeps us going...
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Disestabulistic
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Joined: January 15 2006
Location: Canada
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Points: 16
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Posted: March 24 2008 at 00:39 |
I have a friend who is the type of person that, when they discover something they like, it becomes their life for 3-5 months. At the moment he is living in some kind of homogenously tool dominated universe. I like tool, and I feel like I could grow to like them much more and derive a lot of enjoyment from their music.
With that said, I find it very hard to get into them. Maybe it's a result of constantly being bomarded with tapped rhythms, badly sung lyrics, time signature lectures and plodding riffs in drop D courtesy of my zealot friend. At best, my enjoyment of tool is patchy. There have been times when I've really been struck by the power and emotion of the music, and others when I've wanted to shut it off to end the unchanging boredom.
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ProgBagel
Prog Reviewer
Joined: May 13 2007
Location: United States
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Points: 2819
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Posted: March 24 2008 at 00:51 |
Again, someone please kill this thread.
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Logan
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Joined: April 05 2006
Location: Vancouver, BC
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Posted: March 24 2008 at 00:59 |
ProgBagel wrote:
Again, someone please kill this thread. |
Think I might be able to kill it with a pale post, if you get my colour.
Edited by Logan - March 24 2008 at 01:12
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stonebeard
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Joined: May 27 2005
Location: NE Indiana
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Points: 28057
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Posted: March 24 2008 at 01:08 |
Dear Sir, that is beyond the pale.
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Slartibartfast
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Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam
Joined: April 29 2006
Location: Atlantais
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Posted: March 24 2008 at 07:58 |
Go listen to some Zappa for crying out loud.
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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tardis
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Joined: October 02 2005
Location: Victoria, BC
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Points: 14378
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Posted: March 24 2008 at 23:39 |
Ha ha, I actually read every single post in this thread, including the OTHER tool thread. Dunno why. Actually, there was some interesting points to be made, but I think this thread is indeed on the wane... Now we just need a fanboy to come along and initiate a vicious cycle of abuse. Wait, that could be me! Tool is COOL, don't be dissin' with them you mofos!
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Greta007
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Joined: February 20 2008
Location: Sydney
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Posted: March 25 2008 at 02:02 |
They fit pretty neatly into prog metal, aren't they? I think if you described Tool as prog metal to someone who hadn't heard them then when they heard the band, it wouldn't be too surprising.
I haven't enjoyed heavy metal sounds for 30 years, except in tiny doses (e.g. Lark's Tongues Pt 1) but I admit that when I first hear Tool - it was 46 and 2 - my first thought is "My God, who is that drummer?". So I don't mind them in small doses but after a while the grunt factor gets to me.
To all you Tool fans out there, rest assured that when you get older most of you will find that the energy of metal becomes kind of oppressive.
It's interesting to see what has happened to "prog" as a musical label. It seems to me that a number of "prog" bands aren't really progressive as such in that they re-interpret the ideas of progressive bands of the past. It's like "prog" has created it's own tradition so some bands follow the blues tradition, some the RnB tradition or the jazz or fusion traditions, and now some the prog tradition.
I don't know. Maybe so many ideas have been laid out on the musical table in the past that there's little else to do but follow what someone else has done before? (at least if you want to sound good).
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Eagles may soar but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.
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PROGMONSTER2008
Forum Senior Member
Joined: December 09 2007
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Points: 610
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Posted: March 25 2008 at 03:39 |
They don't fit the mould of original prog rock. Their melodies aren't exciting, not enough keys, too much screaming, not enough wind instruments
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MajesterX
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Joined: December 30 2005
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Points: 513
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Posted: March 29 2008 at 23:11 |
Can't get into Tool? So what? You shouldn't force yourself or feel bad if you don't like some music.
Live with it. It's not big deal!
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Shakespeare
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Joined: July 18 2006
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Points: 7744
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Posted: March 29 2008 at 23:15 |
Logan wrote:
ProgBagel wrote:
Again, someone please kill this thread. |
Think I might be able to kill it with a pale post, if you get my colour.
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I'll try and kill it with a black post. There. Take THAT. And THAT.
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meat puppet
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Joined: March 23 2008
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Posted: March 30 2008 at 08:24 |
Greta007 wrote:
To all you Tool fans out there, rest assured that when you get older most of you will find that the energy of metal becomes kind of oppressive.
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How old is that exactly ?
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Greta007
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Joined: February 20 2008
Location: Sydney
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Posted: March 31 2008 at 02:49 |
I believe that "that" is about two posts old and was given to us by Shakespeare ...
As for your question, Meat Puppet, I am loathe to say anything lest I offend our feisty bard. Further, I recently had a birthday and I am loathe to attach numbers to the idea - let's just say "no spring chicken".
If you are about to tell me "I am Methusela-esque yet I STILL love bands who play one song after another that pounds one's head into submission", then my response is "Then I hope your ears enjoy their future role as mere ornaments for your head" :-P
Of course, things are probably a bit different for women, bearing in mind that this site appears to be a testosterone pit ... even so, most men that I know who are around my age seem to find prog too much to cope with, let alone metal-prog!
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