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avestin
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Posted: March 16 2008 at 15:12 | |
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avestin
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Posted: March 14 2008 at 15:52 | |
Let us know what are your impressions of the boxset, Dean.
As soon as I have some more funds, I'll be getting it as well.
@ Soundsweird, like Dean said, there's no link in your post. Looking forward to listen to it.
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Dean
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Posted: March 14 2008 at 07:44 | |
^ Link appear to be missing Soundswierd.
I'm stunned. ... the GRM Archives 5 CD box set arrived on my doorstep a few minutes ago! I was expecting a 2 or 3 week wait for a delivery from Canada and it arrived from Paris in 5 days - I'm not even getting that kind of delivery from AmazonUK at the moment - hat's off to the guys at ElectroCD
Haven't had chance to listen yet (perparing a mini-marathon for this afternoon ) but looking through the photo-booklet brings back memories of researching some of this for an essay on electronic music I did at University in the 80s.
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soundsweird
Prog Reviewer Joined: December 08 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 408 |
Posted: March 13 2008 at 22:48 | |
Avestin, here's a link to some excerpts of pieces I did in the 90's. It's a site dedicated to the analog synth I used to get all of my strange sounds, and the guy asked me to give him some samples to put up there. Most of it is a bit more commercial than my "serious" stuff, and has been used in modern dances. The same guy is working with me currently to remaster and clean up my music for CD release... Just click on "music", and scroll down to 6 excerpts towards the bottom of the page.
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avestin
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Posted: March 13 2008 at 00:32 | |
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PFS article on INA GRM:
The label's discography in Forced exposure:
Last FM page of the label with samples:
Discography at Jazz Loft:
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avestin
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Posted: March 11 2008 at 22:53 | |
avestin
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Posted: March 11 2008 at 09:33 | |
Hi there, SW.
I'd be interested in listening to your music; any links, websites?
Added to my list, thank Adam.
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Apsalar
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Posted: March 11 2008 at 02:38 | |
Assaf, from those you have mentioned my favourites would be:
Bernard Parmegiani - All of his '70's release are solid, you cannot really go wrong. Also if you enjoyed that latter work of his it could be worth while tracking down the split he did with Australia EA artist Philip Samartzis from '06 called Immersion; this possibly could only have been released on vinyl tho' - not sure. Francois Bayle - L'expérience acoustique - Vibrations composées / Grande polyphonie - Erosphère Just a warning I didn't think much of the split album between Bayle and Parmegiani. Luc Ferrari - Presque rien - Danses organiques - Son mémorisé (already mentioned) |
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soundsweird
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Posted: March 11 2008 at 00:58 | |
I have tons of Electroacoustic/Acousmatic titles (no surprise; I've been composing the stuff for over 25 years, hence my nickname here); it's hard to go wrong with stuff on the Electrocd site; those Canadian composers have "cornered the market"; Dhomont, Normandeau, Gobeil, Harrison, Oswald, Roy, etc.
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avestin
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Posted: March 10 2008 at 18:55 | |
avestin
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Posted: March 10 2008 at 18:53 | |
Also, haven't had time to read all of it, but this article seems to be an interesting retrospective of EAM:
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avestin
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Posted: March 10 2008 at 18:49 | |
I found this interesting link - http://people.unt.edu/~aeh0018/womtechdisc.html
which talks about Selected discography of currently available electroacoustic music by women composers.
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avestin
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Posted: March 09 2008 at 20:31 | |
Here's some info about Romanian composer Iancu Dumitrescu and the Spectral school:
IANCU DUMITRESCU ( born 1944 ) is one of the leading personalities of contemporary music, embracing both composition and interpretation. Major works: " Pérspectives au Movemur" , " Sirius-Kronos Quartet" for string quartet, "Movemur et sumus" II, III, IV, V for cello, violin, viola, double bass, "Movemur et sumus" for violin, viola, cello and double bass , "Medium" ( I - III), "Gnosis" for double bass (...),"Reliefs " for two orchestras and piano, "Apogeum" I - II for orchestra, "Aulodie Mioritica I" for clarinet and orchestra, "Aulodie Mioritica ( gamma ) " for double-bass and orchestra, "Multiples I-II-III-IV-V" ( mew rhythmic project) , " Zenith" (I),(II), "Orion" (I),(II) for percussion," The Second Moira" for traditional instruments, wind instruments, strings, percussion and magnetic tape, "Ursa Maior", "Alpha Centaori", " Pierres Sacrées" , " Galaxy " , “Cogito / Trompe l’Oeil”, “Mythos”, “A Priori”, “Zenith”, “Harryphonies”, for diagonal sounds and instruments. "Orphics" for artisanal wind objects and instruments, "Oroscopo" for prepared piano (three prepared pianos) and clarinet. "Panta Rhei" for chamber ensemble... Computer assisted music and instruments : "Colossus", "Oiseaux Céléstes", "Meteors and Pulsars", " New Meteors and Pulsars", "Eon I - II - Dans un Désordre Absolu " , " Soleil Explosant" , "Pulse and Universe Reborn", “Bolids and contemplations”, “Objet sonore mysterieux” ... He has been commissioned by, among others, “Radio France”, "Art ZOYD", the “Kronos Quartet", The UPIC- CCMIX - Paris ( Centre de Création Musicale Iannis Xenakis ) and the French Ministry of Culture, Romanian Radio Broadcasting Corporation, Bucharest, * "The new Romanian school, with Iancu Dumitrescu at the forefront, is not alone in its search for a similar spectral approach - hyper-consonant, hyperharmonic, in the real sense of these terms - as we find parallel tendencies in the young French school of the Groupe de l'Itinéraire, amongst the young Canadians or the Italians. The Romanians, working for so long in relative isolation, are in right to claim a certain seniority in this approach that lead with Iancu Dumitrescu's to a real spectral analysis of the interior of the sound, equivalent to a kind of nuclear fission. The great predecessor in this direction, whose importance is just beginning to be recognized as he celebrates his eightieth birthday, is the Italian composer Giacinto Scelsi... In such a "spectral" and "hyperconsonant" music as that of Iancu Dumitrescu, we seem to recognize ceaselessly fragments, echoes of folkloric melodies, songs and ancestral calls of the Carpathian shepherds. And that because the folk instruments also elude the compromise of the temperate scale in order to render the natural scale of the harmonics. The spectre thus contains thousands of virtual melodies that fleeting embody themselves according to the meeting or the crossing of the harmonic columns. Folk music is thus a sonorous phenomenon both natural and cultural. Starting with the brilliant forerunner George Enescu, the whole Romanian school has used its pure resources, fructifying and transfiguring them. This was the case with Iancu Dumitrescu's masters: St. Niculescu and A. Stroe, while A. Mendelson inculcated him the basic classical craft and S. Celibidache's precious advices helped him to clarify his phenomenological conception of musical composition. Iancu Dumitrescu's works situate themselves far from the traditional concepts, not only regarding sound, but also form and structure. His main works introduce the concept of acousmatic, Socratic term designing the art of hiding the essence of the sound source, of disguising its origin. Based on the intimate exploration of the secret, hidden, parameters of the sonorous phenomenon, his music extracts its formal models out of the inner structure of the sound, in a perfect correspondence of micro- and macrostructure. This phenomenological approach of the compositional proceeding implies both a great confidence in the intuitive dimension of the invention and a permanent, indispensable, intellectual lucidity. Composing becomes thus a surgeon or biologist-like attitude, working directly on the sonorous plasma, on the living and mobile substance. This attitude extends to the several parameters of the sound, especially to a system of duration organization that confers each number a rhythm that bears its own aesthetics, ethics and poignancy. As Time, the only sonorous parameter also existing outside the sound, is equally the one who implies all the rest: pitches, timbres and intensities are evaluated by means of vibrations, periods, and, thus, time. Iancu Dumitrescu's predilection for grave instruments (double bass, bassoon, trombone, tuba etc.) is explained by the fact that they possess the most complete column of harmonics, the richest and most beautiful spectrum. The acoustical principles evoked above otherwise permit rendering almost unrecognizable the instrumental sources. Thus, in "Ursa Mare", the two bassoons are prepared, by introducing foreign objects in the wholes and clefts. Additionally, the instrumentalists must play with the upper part of the instrument stuck to the membrane of the big drum, which prolongs and modifies the harmonics. The bassoon has thus at its disposal an original scale of micro-intervals. Some of Iancu Dumitrescu's important works exist in several variants which differ by their instrumentation. Finished in 1983, this recorded version of "Ursa Mare", the most complete regarding the instrumental force, uses two prepared bassoons, four double basses, one piano (also prepared), an ensemble of percussion (membranes and metals) and, finally, a magnetic tape. The work is dedicated to Harry Halbreich. From the beginning of his career, Iancu Dumitrescu made himself known through orchestral pages of amazing novelty, where most of his nowadays achievements were more than prefigured. "Apogeum" (for winds and percussion), "Reliefs" (for two orchestras and piano) count among the major pages of the new Romanian orchestral music. Invigorated by the experiences acquired in the long years of practicing with his musicians in the Hyperion Ensemble and with the great Italian double bass player Fernando Grillo, Iancu Dumitrescu composed "Aulodie Mioritica", first for clarinet and orchestra, and then for other soloists. The double bass solo and orchestra version ("Aulodie Mioritica" Gamma), dedicated to and created by Fernando Grillo, was finished in June 1984 and performed for the first time soon after its ending, at Radio France, by the latter, accompanied by the Nouvel Orchestre Philharmonique conducted by Yves Prin." Harry HALBREICH (Editions Salabert) Paris |
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Dean
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Posted: March 09 2008 at 13:43 | |
Well, I've ordered the box-set, so it is still available.
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avestin
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Posted: March 09 2008 at 13:32 | |
I got the Dhomont album Michael recommended me and it's absolutely fascinating and marvelous experience!!!
I also got the Ferrari album, Son Meorise and I'll have a listen to it today.
I hope to get that box-set anthology as well (though I'm in a bit of "uneasy" financial state so it'll have to wait...).
Thanks for those links, Dean!
I'll try and post here more info as I receive it about more composers.
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Dean
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Posted: March 09 2008 at 13:20 | |
Absolutely fascinating Assaf.
That box set does sound like a bargain, I think I'll take advantage of the exchange-rate and purchase that. (assuming it's still available, apparently the 5-CD box is out of print but re-issued as 5 single cds)
Here are a couple of short Bernard Parmegiani pieces found on the ubiquitous YouTube:
Suspended Time: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dysiEpTu1OA
Une Mission Ephemere: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aulXlb8Dt24 <-- as great as the animation is on this video, it is far too distracting for the music, I minimised the window and just listened.
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micky
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Posted: March 09 2008 at 11:41 | |
Battiato was used this style if you will, quite often in his 70's albums
GREAT topic Assaf |
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avestin
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Posted: March 09 2008 at 11:27 | |
I've also started with Iancu Dumitrescu's spectral compositions but I'll keep that for later as it's somewhat of a world within a world here.
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avestin
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Posted: March 09 2008 at 11:26 | |
And this:
Assaf...a couple more recs...
Bernard Parmegiani-Le Creation Du Monde Francois Bayle-Camera Oscura/Espaces Inhabitables The Bayle disc is similar to the Dhomont disc I told you about...although here, the sounds are more rareified, more delicate...but no less mind blowing. The Parmegiani disc is just brilliant from start to finish...definitely a minor masterpiece in my small but growing collection of acousmatic discs. |
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avestin
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Posted: March 09 2008 at 11:26 | |
And this:
Hi Assaf...I have a few minutes this morning so, I'd like throw out another recommendation---Luc Ferrari's release "Son Memorise". This is a totally far-out, psychedelic mind trip that is centered around the natural sound of the human voice, both processed and unprocessed. There is other stuff going on too, like field recordings of ethnic percussion, but for the most part, it's key element is the voice.
Ferrari was fond (I use "was" because he passed away last year) of traveling to remote areas of the globe and making field recordings. There is one piece here called "Symphonic walk though a Soundscape or A day of celebration in El-Qued, 1976" that, I think succeeds in sucking the listener, totally and completely into the strange world of a celebration which took place in a Nomadic tent village in the Algerian desert. Over the course of it's 20 or so minutes, you, the listener are actually walking throuh this remote place, taking in the sites and sounds in stark and vivid detail. After the first 5 minutes, the mind is so engrossed in the detail of this recording that you are tempted to look around you, just to re-assure yourself that you are still in your own home! To say this is a vivid psychedelic experience is an understatement...and it's all done with no processing...just a man with a microphone, walking though a totally alien (for me) world. The last piece on the disc, "Saliceburry Cocktail" is a mind blowing meld of field recordings and processed electronics that continues the lysergic trip thats, pretty much there throughout the entire disc. Once again, headphone listening is a must to get the full effect of the spatialisation that is taking place. When it's all over, you well and truly feel that you've been to "somewhere else"...terrestial and non-terrestial. |
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