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ProgressiveOpinion 
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Posted: March 03 2008 at 15:24 |
I don't just mean hard fast solos either, but rather the music on the whole.
From my short prog listening life I'd venture a guess and say it might be Gentle Giant on their classic albums.
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Drew
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Posted: March 03 2008 at 15:25 |
The 1st band that popped in my mind was Planet X-
did you want us to only name more classic prog bands??
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darkshade
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Posted: March 03 2008 at 15:36 |
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do want bands that are complex for complexities sake?
or bands that are complex, but are real and soulful and know what they're doing?
whichever it is, i'll list some from the second choice
Brand X
King Crimson
Frank Zappa
Phish (early era)
Planet X
Gentle Giant
Mr. Bungle
Return to Forever
Dream Theater (i guess)
Tribal Tech
Edited by darkshade - March 03 2008 at 15:37
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the icon of sin
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Posted: March 03 2008 at 15:49 |
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Some technical metal bands are ridiculous. Spastic Ink, Cynic, Atheist, Spiral Architect, Meshuggah...they're the ones which spring to mind.
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The Quiet One
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Posted: March 03 2008 at 15:50 |
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That I know that are complex musically entirely I could highly recomend you:
Gentle Giant
FRANK ZAPPA
King Crimson (try Lizard)
Yes's Tales or Relayer or CTTE
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Rocktopus
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Posted: March 03 2008 at 15:53 |
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Although I've go no real knowledge; Here's some that sounds (+ To some extent I know they are) quite complex and intricate to me:
Henry Cow
Area
Samla Mammas Manna
After Dinner....
This ended up a little random, I quess. Must be countless bands in Avant/RIO, Zeuhl, Canterbury and Jazzrock/Fusion more complex than Dream Theater & Phish.
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Sckxyss
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Posted: March 03 2008 at 15:58 |
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Koenjihyakkei is probably the most complex from my collection (Ruins as well). Some other better known ones I can think of are Gentle Giant, Meshuggah, Univers Zero, Henry Cow.. too many of the RIO/Avant bands to name.
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stonebeard
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Posted: March 03 2008 at 15:59 |
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I don't even know what qualifies as complex anymore.
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Hercules
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Posted: March 03 2008 at 16:01 |
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Gentle Giant!
I used to HATE them, but I just "got" them and now they're in my top 10 bands.
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Paulieg
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Posted: March 03 2008 at 16:19 |
Classic Prog: Gentle Giant, King Crimson, Mahavishnu Orchestra, Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso, ELP, etc... tons of good old stuff.
Modern Prog: Dream Theater, Fates Warning, Spiral Architect, Zero Hour, Planet X, Rush, Symphony X, pretty much all prog metal bands.
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mellors
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Posted: March 03 2008 at 16:41 |
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Structurally: Mauldin of the Well/Kayo Dot
Technicality: Mahavishnu Orchestra
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Statutory-Mike
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Posted: March 03 2008 at 16:42 |
 Paulieg wrote:
Classic Prog: Gentle Giant, King Crimson, Mahavishnu Orchestra, Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso, ELP, etc... tons of good old stuff.
Modern Prog: Dream Theater, Fates Warning, Spiral Architect, Zero Hour, Planet X, Rush, Symphony X, pretty much all prog metal bands. |
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Drew
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Posted: March 03 2008 at 16:45 |
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I feel that Yes had some very technical moments as well- their older stuff obviously.
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fuxi
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Posted: March 03 2008 at 17:06 |
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Hey folks! You like complex? Try Discus' brilliant TOT LICHT! It's like RELAYER, ONE SIZE FITS ALL and OF QUEUES AND CURES rolled into one. Thank you!
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laplace
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Posted: March 03 2008 at 17:08 |
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*has read the forum for years and can't even work out what "musically complex" means based on people's responses*
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rushfan4
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Posted: March 03 2008 at 17:28 |
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^ Glad I am not alone.
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Atavachron
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Posted: March 03 2008 at 17:33 |
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Unexpect's In a Flesh Aquarium is pretty intricate, also Dave Kermann's stuff and a little known Japanese band called Flat 122
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King Crimson776
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Posted: March 03 2008 at 17:46 |
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MTZArts
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Posted: March 03 2008 at 18:18 |
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On a few of their albums, King Crimson screwed around with different timing until the point where it would make a theory god like Pat Martino's head spin.
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MTZArts
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Posted: March 03 2008 at 18:19 |
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Also, in response to Dark Shade, Mr. Bungle is a definite. Listen to any of their three albums, and you will know what I mean..
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