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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 22 2008 at 14:05
VDGG I got Pawn Heart and think the vocals are horrible the music is just ok to be 20 min an 10 min.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 22 2008 at 14:13
I don't get ELP at all and I find Zappa very hit and miss. It's all well and good to be technically complex and intricate but if it doesn't move me, it's worthless. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 22 2008 at 14:16
Tool (aside from Lateralus)...I love Lateralus and I think that I really should appreciate Aenima and Undertow but it just lacks something I can't put my finger on...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 22 2008 at 14:17
Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

*Bites tongue* on certain members' continuous need to bash Rush at every opportunity possible. 
 
However, not surprising given tastes on the opposite end of the spectrum, VDGG is one band that I just don't like, and probably for all the same reasons others like them.  On the couple of albums I have heard I find both Hammill's voice and the horn playing to be quite annoying. 

just to make it clear: my comment was not meant as "Rush bashing" at all. I know and respect many people like them. what I don't quite get is why. sure, very good musicians. they definitely had potential, and I will gladly admit that they know how to play their instruments and are pretty good at it. but unfortunately they did not use their potential fully; they played it safe instead. that's the big problem I have with them; I prefer risk takers


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 22 2008 at 14:21
I am afraid this thread is turning into a bashing of bands we don't like, rather than into the constructive discussion Laplace would have liked us to develop. With the exception of a few posts (like Jean's above mine), it seems to me that all people are doing is saying which bands or artists they consider to be a waste of time - which was not the point of Laplace's original post.Unhappy
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 22 2008 at 14:21
Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:


just to make it clear: my comment was not meant as "Rush bashing" at all. I know and respect many people like them. what I don't quite get is why. sure, very good musicians. they definitely had potential, and I will gladly admit that they know how to play their instruments and are pretty good at it. but unfortunately they did not use their potential fully; they played it safe instead. that's the big problem I have with them; I prefer risk takers

I'd say they took some big risks. They drastically vary their sound about once a decade, almost right after fans get used to their current sound.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 22 2008 at 14:22
I feel like I should like Magma, but I can't get over those vocals.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 22 2008 at 14:27
I've tried to appreciate Van Der Graff Generator, but the music is just bit too 'out there' for my tastes. I'm pretty conservative by nature, which is reflected in my music tastes.

I thought I didn't like Jethro Tull; however, I did hear the beginning of Thick As A Brick and I actually liked it.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 22 2008 at 14:30
Yes, it wasn't my intention to create the forty fifth "bands you don't like" thread. If you wanna slate a band's album then I'll gladly read your one star review of it. For everyone who's confused, go back and read the opening post. =)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 22 2008 at 14:36
I think ELP is my answer to this question...
apart from their first and at most their second,
I can barely stand the rest...Unhappy
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 22 2008 at 14:50

To clarify my previous post to bring it more into context with this thread's purpose, I find my tastes to be pretty wide open, and yet narrow in the sense that if it is considered prog and it is on this site I should like it.  There are certain subgenres that I have determined are not for me, or at least that I am not interested in or ready to explore at this time.  The one subgenre that is a bit of an enigma for me is the Eclectic subgenre.  There are a number of bands in the Eclectic subgenre that I really like, but the three best known and most popular are King Crimson, Gentle Giant, and VDGG, and all three of these bands I can take or leave.  King Crimson and Gentle Giant are two bands that have their moments for me but generally don't do anything for me, but I don't dislike them.  The VDGG that I have heard on the other hand I just don't like.  Given that I generally like what I have heard in the Eclectic subgenre I think that I should like VDGG, but I don't.  I haven't closed the door on them.  There is still a chance that they might grow on me but at this point I'm in no hurry to go back and try to listen to them again.

There are 3 other bands that I have tried because of PA and didn't really like, but I really don't feel that I should like any of them because their styles of music aren't to my taste or just aren't within my comfort zone.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 22 2008 at 15:05
On some level I like / love most of the big name prog bands I certainly like very much most of the bands mentioned so far. Some of this stuff takes time to digest and the willingness to  push through preconceived ideas you maybe first had before venturing into the band in question, given repeated plays and even if you dont like the singer or something else there's always a story in every book to discover and discovery is the spirit of prog so keep those minds open !   Thumbs%20Up
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 22 2008 at 15:11
Gosh,this is a little embarasing.Embarrassed
Afraid to say its two of the biggies.Pink Floyd,and Genesis.Both of these bands have great sounds,but for some reason I cannot listen to them for that long.I keep trying,but just cannot find that little key piece which will make me more open towards their music.It's one of the reasons I have for finding it hard to get into some of the new forms of prog.Just keeping fingers crossed that one day things will just click.Such a shame really.Cry
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 22 2008 at 15:30
Van der Graaf Generator, definitely. I like dark things and I love Peter Hammill's voice, but none of the albums manage to hold my interest. I really like "Refugees" but it seems that's the only song from them I can get into...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 22 2008 at 15:42
can't really get into Frank Zappa, VDGG. Being son and brother of totally zappa fans I can never get into thinking that is rubish but it isn't just like sub-genre says. Although happily I can appreciate Zoot Allures and many seperatly songs.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 22 2008 at 16:20
At the risk of being tarred, and feathered, no matter how many times I listen to Pink Floyd or King Crimson, I just don't see the attraction. I mean to a drug free mind. Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 22 2008 at 16:26
Originally posted by ghost_of_morphy ghost_of_morphy wrote:

I have never understood why I should waste a moment of my precious music listening time on Gentle Giant.



Because chances are Gentle Giant are better than whatever you spend your precious music listening time onWink

I guess I should theoretically like Univers Zero and Art Zoyd more, but they sound to me as if they were more interested in proving they can compose and play this kind of complex music than in the actual music itself.

Which is not the case with the aforementioned Gentle Giant, for example, or Henry Cow. Different music, sure, but still. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 22 2008 at 16:33
Also, it's frustrating to me that the majority of avant-garde bands seem to dwell in dissonance and Dadaism rather than melody.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 22 2008 at 16:38
^ I'd like to hear an expert comment on whether 'dissonance' and 'melody' are mutually exclusive... and it seems to me when people talk about 'melody' they have a very limited definition of it in mind, one that probably ignores musics from certain parts of the world 
in which melody is understood somewhat differently.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 22 2008 at 16:42
Uh oh...
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