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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2008 at 17:28
Originally posted by rileydog22 rileydog22 wrote:

I'll be sure to include your question about the classic RIO boys, credited to you of course. 

BTW, are you sure Drake was in Skeleton Crew?  I could have sworn it was just Frith and Cora, then Frith, Cora, and Parkins, and then they broke up. 
 
Bob Drake was never in Skeleton Crew, although as he's been in almost as many RIO bands as Fred Frith and Chris Cutler it wasn't an unreasonable assumption to make.
 
Dave Newhouse (The Muffins) was a member of Skeleton Crew for a while. He's not on any of the studio recordings, but he does appear on a live track on the double CD reissue of SC's 2 albums.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 02 2008 at 08:41
I somehow got Thinking Plague and Skeleton Crew confused with each other, Chris and Jake! Embarrassed

Fred Frith was of course later with The Muffins, so those links go both ways.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 02 2008 at 09:31
Originally posted by Geck0 Geck0 wrote:

By the way, have you read this?

http://www.expose.org/brazieal.html



 
 
Really interesting! Nice find, JamesBig%20smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 02 2008 at 15:18
can someone plz write a track by track review of this bob drake album LOL

http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=17698


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 02 2008 at 16:14
An interesting review/article about the album Arms by Zs in Dusted - http://www.dustedmagazine.com/reviews/4010
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 04 2008 at 12:12
Article and interview with Uz Jsme Doma in PFS:
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 05 2008 at 16:19
Suggestions are now closed for Scott, as I just emailed him my questions.  I imagine it will take him a little while to get back to us, as I believe he is in the studio right now.  

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 05 2008 at 19:54

Are Boredoms considered RIO? I know their more recent stuff is more space rock oriented, but their early work shows a lot of influence from bands mentioned here.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 06 2008 at 06:58
Magma is playing on 11/02/08 in Paris
 
 
BTW there won't be a second edition of the RIO festival this year I fear...Cry
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 06 2008 at 17:40
Originally posted by Alucard Alucard wrote:

Magma is playing on 11/02/08 in Paris
 
 
BTW there won't be a second edition of the RIO festival this year I fear...Cry
 
Sadly I won't be able to make it over for that one, although I hope to see Magma at Le Triton one day.
 
It's a great pity that there won't be another RIO festival this year. Incidentally, did you finish editing your video footage, and did Guapo ever contact you about it?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 06 2008 at 22:35

According to Dave Kerman, there won't be any RIO festival this year due to lack of support from governmental funds. However there might be one in 2009.

 
Anyway, on another subject, here's a review I posted at Sonic Frontiers of the album The Hollow Grail by noise/noise-rock Russian band called Won James Won:
 
Noise James Noise

On Won James Won's latest release, The Hollow Grail, R.A.I.G show how far they are willing to go with their already unconventional repertoire. The Hollow Grail goes even further into the realms of the odd, the hard to digest, and the borderline between plain noise and music.

So, what have we here? Samplings, screaming, guitar screeching, loose track structure, weird and eerie atmosphere - all that qualifies one as "experimental." The word "noise" might also come to mind, but I’ve heard "noise" music with much less substance, so perhaps the term may not entirely encompass WJW's sound.

However distracted or aimless The Hollow Grail might sound, there is movement and goal in here. While the screaming may not be appealing to some, the “music” itself is interesting enough to counteract it. The Hollow Grail is definitely a challenge to the listener; many will surely be baffled. However, for those listeners who are used to this sort of style (or are open-minded enough to give the album a try) you’ll find some interesting ideas, whether loudly thrown at you or placed gently at your doorstep.

This album is not one to put up for passive listening. It is not an album to enjoy. This is an album to experience, to absorb, to actively look for its hidden layers, its disguised motifs and concealed musicality. Close inspection by focused listening is demanded from the listener. Concentrate and find in each track its musical or noise-y ideas; isolate the different ingredients in the seemingly chaotic situation to understand what is going on; only then can a better appreciation and even enjoyment can be achieved.

Whether or not you'll enjoy this album depends on what you want from your music. If it’s accessibility or clarity then this is definitely something to avoid. However, if challenge in music is something you like and the above mentioned styles are your bread and butter, then having a bite may very well satisfy you.

I for one enjoy their crafting of the noise/music, and compared with others from this style it does deliver more than a few good moments. There is some genuine originality and sophistication in some of the music (track 6 for example, "Disintegration Of A Unit"). It is these particular moments that make me realize WJW's talent, and hope for them to expand on those particular paths and look forward to more from them. On the other hand, other parts of the album are seemingly senseless and perhaps expendable.

In summary, a good and interesting listening experience. Brace yourself; it’s a long ride.

Reviewer: Assaf Vestin
Added: February 6th 2008
 
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 11 2008 at 19:52
I'll be doing two interviews soon.
 
One will be with Ramon from the Belgian avant-rock band Xhohx. I added them a while back to PA and wrote a review if you're interested.
 
The second will be (again) with Trond Gjellum (from the Norwegian band Panzerpappa) in light of his recent project - Tr-Ond & the Suburban Savages. I recently added them to PA and wrote a review for anyone interested.
 
If anyone is interested in sending me questions to ask these guys, feel free to PM me. No deadline yet, but until next week would be good.
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 12 2008 at 11:20
Have a look at the coming new 4 Soleil Zeuhl releases:
 
 
BBI : Same
RIALZU : U rigiru
AMYGDALA : Complex combat
SETNA : Cycle 1. (Myspace link)
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 13 2008 at 09:32
A reminder:
 
Originally posted by avestin avestin wrote:

I'll be doing two interviews soon.
 
One will be with Ramon from the Belgian avant-rock band Xhohx. I added them a while back to PA and wrote a review if you're interested.
 
The second will be (again) with Trond Gjellum (from the Norwegian band Panzerpappa) in light of his recent project - Tr-Ond & the Suburban Savages. I recently added them to PA and wrote a review for anyone interested.
 
If anyone is interested in sending me questions to ask these guys, feel free to PM me. No deadline yet, but until next week would be good.
 
 
 
 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 15 2008 at 16:58
Originally posted by avestin avestin wrote:

According to Dave Kerman, there won't be any RIO festival this year due to lack of support from governmental funds. However there might be one in 2009.

 
Anyway, on another subject, here's a review I posted at Sonic Frontiers of the album The Hollow Grail by noise/noise-rock Russian band called Won James Won:
 
Noise James Noise

On Won James Won's latest release, The Hollow Grail, R.A.I.G show how far they are willing to go with their already unconventional repertoire. The Hollow Grail goes even further into the realms of the odd, the hard to digest, and the borderline between plain noise and music.

So, what have we here? Samplings, screaming, guitar screeching, loose track structure, weird and eerie atmosphere - all that qualifies one as "experimental." The word "noise" might also come to mind, but I’ve heard "noise" music with much less substance, so perhaps the term may not entirely encompass WJW's sound.

However distracted or aimless The Hollow Grail might sound, there is movement and goal in here. While the screaming may not be appealing to some, the “music” itself is interesting enough to counteract it. The Hollow Grail is definitely a challenge to the listener; many will surely be baffled. However, for those listeners who are used to this sort of style (or are open-minded enough to give the album a try) you’ll find some interesting ideas, whether loudly thrown at you or placed gently at your doorstep.

This album is not one to put up for passive listening. It is not an album to enjoy. This is an album to experience, to absorb, to actively look for its hidden layers, its disguised motifs and concealed musicality. Close inspection by focused listening is demanded from the listener. Concentrate and find in each track its musical or noise-y ideas; isolate the different ingredients in the seemingly chaotic situation to understand what is going on; only then can a better appreciation and even enjoyment can be achieved.

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I for one enjoy their crafting of the noise/music, and compared with others from this style it does deliver more than a few good moments. There is some genuine originality and sophistication in some of the music (track 6 for example, "Disintegration Of A Unit"). It is these particular moments that make me realize WJW's talent, and hope for them to expand on those particular paths and look forward to more from them. On the other hand, other parts of the album are seemingly senseless and perhaps expendable.

In summary, a good and interesting listening experience. Brace yourself; it’s a long ride.

Reviewer: Assaf Vestin
Added: February 6th 2008
 
 
 
I still do not understand why some people don't define noise as music.It can be music as long as its a part of it...But sometimes it seems to me, that they just throw in the noise to be artistic and it becomes pointless,Sonic Youth can do it good and Wolf Eyes too(Confused)...but its still sometimes a big fat artistic lie.
 
Question: Were are the RIO festivals located, could tell me?Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 18 2008 at 14:34
Originally posted by avestin avestin wrote:

A reminder:
 
Originally posted by avestin avestin wrote:

I'll be doing two interviews soon.
 
One will be with Ramon from the Belgian avant-rock band Xhohx. I added them a while back to PA and wrote a review if you're interested.
 
The second will be (again) with Trond Gjellum (from the Norwegian band Panzerpappa) in light of his recent project - Tr-Ond & the Suburban Savages. I recently added them to PA and wrote a review for anyone interested.
 
If anyone is interested in sending me questions to ask these guys, feel free to PM me. No deadline yet, but until next week would be good.
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 21 2008 at 08:35
This is kind off-topic, but the general music lounge failed me, and you guys have better taste anyway. I have been listening to a lot of Aphex Twin lately, and I want more music like Richard D James Album and the fast parts of Druqcks--complex, avant-garde, fast as possible drums. Dark and aggressive like Come to Daddy would also be a plus. I've discerned that DnB and Jungle is what I'm looking for, but I've had very little luck finding what I'm looking for, everything seems to be much more midtempo, which completely defeats my purpose of listening to electronica.
 
More on-topic, I like the idea of Math Rock, but I've found almost anything other than Hella to be soulless and unappealing. I know math rock isn't supposed to move you with beauty, but I find stuff like AHLEUCHATISTAS to just be incredibly boring. Any ideas? I know math rock has been moved to post-rock, but it belongs with us. ;-)
 
Also, Aranis is very good.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 21 2008 at 09:28
Have you got the Come To Daddy EP, Ghandi, or do you just know the single?  The EP has the eargasmic Bucephalus Bouncing Ball on it.

I believe the majority of Aphex Twin's output is more laid-back and melodic, but then I've only ever heard his Come To Daddy EP myself.

Whilst I'm here, I want to say how brilliant News from Babel's Letters Home is.  I just listened to it and strangely reminds me of Van der Graaf Generator, but with Robert Wyatt, Sally Potter and Dagmar Krause, rather than Peter Hammill on vocals.

It's the lyricism and words, as well as the darker overtones of Lindsay Cooper's keyboards parts that reminds me of Van der Graaf Generator.

Excellent album! Clap


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 21 2008 at 11:20
Originally posted by Ghandi 2 Ghandi 2 wrote:

 
More on-topic, I like the idea of Math Rock, but I've found almost anything other than Hella to be soulless and unappealing. I know math rock isn't supposed to move you with beauty, but I find stuff like AHLEUCHATISTAS to just be incredibly boring. Any ideas? I know math rock has been moved to post-rock, but it belongs with us. ;-) 
  My sentiments as well.
 
Anyway, have you tried Cheval De Frise or Normal Love? The latter might be less accessible but the use of violin brings a gush of emotions not found in other bands (not that I mean other bands don't elicit responses from me, just that the violin adds another layer not found in other bands, therefore creating a different response in me the listener).
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 21 2008 at 19:50
Originally posted by Ghandi 2 Ghandi 2 wrote:

More on-topic, I like the idea of Math Rock, but I've found almost anything other than Hella to be soulless and unappealing. I know math rock isn't supposed to move you with beauty, but I find stuff like AHLEUCHATISTAS to just be incredibly boring. Any ideas? I know math rock has been moved to post-rock, but it belongs with us. ;-)


Ghandi, not all math rock is soulless, although the majority is like that. Personally I don't mind, but there is such thing as math rock with emotions and melody. The one that I always talk about is GIRAFFES? GIRAFFES! .  I uploaded a full video of one of their concert. You can sample their songs from there Smile,  but beware. The first song is extremely boring.


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