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Points: 46838 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 30 2007 at 12:08
Originally posted by Easy Livin Easy Livin wrote:

If anyone wants to add him to PR, let me know and I'll take it to the Admin team for a decision.


I will... if Xover decides to reject after we decide a final yes or no vote on him.... he's been on hold for eval and reflection LOL. 
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Points: 1170 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 30 2007 at 15:17
Prog-related would be good since Mr. Bowie did his share of both influencing prog and being influence by it.
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What was the outcome of this thread? Bowie certainly should appear here somewhere.

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Points: 1170 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 03 2008 at 01:33
I don't know, most of his stuff is in the pop vein. Traditional structures and tempos, etc. His stuff from the 90's on was increasingly experimental, but still pop IMO.

The proggiest thing he's done, in my mind, is "Space Oddity" but that's just one song...
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Points: 46838 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 04 2008 at 15:54
Originally posted by kiwi kiwi wrote:

What was the outcome of this thread? Bowie certainly should appear here somewhere.


David Bowie is ...again... under evaluation for addition.... when his fate is decided... the word will be posted here
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Points: 29630 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 04 2008 at 17:07
Originally posted by Avantgardehead Avantgardehead wrote:

I don't know, most of his stuff is in the pop vein. Traditional structures and tempos, etc. His stuff from the 90's on was increasingly experimental, but still pop IMO.

The proggiest thing he's done, in my mind, is "Space Oddity" but that's just one song...


I have to say if Space Oddity is the most prog Bowie, you've heard, there's a lot better out there for you to check out.  Of the newer stuff, you really must try Heathen.  Outside is rather good too.  If you let the '70's Low pass you by, shame on you!


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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Points: 46838 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 04 2008 at 20:23
micky digs him some Station to Station and Low ( ^ Clap) ... pop?... my white pasty ass....
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Low, Heroes, etc. are only about half-good to me and that half is the ambient part. The very first song from Heathen was good but the rest really wasn't up there.
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Points: 46301 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 05 2008 at 04:12
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

micky digs him some Station to Station and Low ( ^ Clap) ... pop?... my white pasty ass....


meaning? LOL

not sure if I ever reached listening to StS, I fell asleep somewhere along the 70s, after Ziggy Stardust...
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The All Music Guide thinks that Bowie was influenced by Pink Floyd, Syd Barret, and Kraftwerk. It also already has labeled him prog/art rock and experimental rock. Let's face it, "art rock" is practically synonymous with David Bowie.

I don't listen to him much at all, but I figure he might deserve a spot in Related. We can all agree that Prog Related is not within the genre of prog rock. But it satisfies those who think he merits inclusion for historical links to the genre and because of his music's progressive characteristics.

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Originally posted by Hirgwath Hirgwath wrote:

The All Music Guide thinks that Bowie was influenced by Pink Floyd, Syd Barret, and Kraftwerk. It also already has labeled him prog/art rock and experimental rock. Let's face it, "art rock" is practically synonymous with David Bowie.



sort of makes putting him in 'related' as a first choice kind of silly then isn't it LOL
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Points: 262 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 05 2008 at 09:19
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:


sort of makes putting him in 'related' as a first choice kind of silly then isn't it LOL


Well, he also is labeled "glam rock", "pop rock", and "blue-eyed soul". It's not that simple.

I'm going to shut up now, until I have a lot more knowledge about his actual music.

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Points: 46838 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 05 2008 at 09:29
Originally posted by Hirgwath Hirgwath wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:


sort of makes putting him in 'related' as a first choice kind of silly then isn't it LOL


Well, he also is labeled "glam rock", "pop rock", and "blue-eyed soul". It's not that simple.

I'm going to shut up now, until I have a lot more knowledge about his actual music.


^ that always helps LOL. Give an artist a 40 year career that is worth anything and I suspect they might lots of tags..  unless you put the same sh*t out.. year after year after year.  Then again..that is why Bowie is what he is... you can't slap a tag on him. It is as you say... not that simple.  But if your base point is correct... the man IS Art Rock. 
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Originally posted by Avantgardehead Avantgardehead wrote:

Low, Heroes, etc. are only about half-good to me and that half is the ambient part. The very first song from Heathen was good but the rest really wasn't up there.

I'm guessing I Took a Trip on a Gemini Spaceship was secretly your fave...
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Points: 15585 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 06 2008 at 03:26
This post is just to bump the thread as I've closed this new one:
 
As stated, the admin team will give Bowie consideration for Prog Related if anyone is proposing to the the actual addition.
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Points: 46838 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 06 2008 at 06:44
as has been noted before.... Bowie is in the hands of the Xover team... and is under eval.  If we pass... we'll send him to the admin team for PR consideration.
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Points: 1008 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 10 2008 at 07:59
I would have thought Cygnet Committee from Space Oddity would, in itself, justify inclusion somewhere on PA.  One of the greatest prog songs ever written.
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Points: 1320 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 10 2008 at 08:21
I agree that Bowie deserves a place here to be mentioned.
- Second album Space Oddity - prog psyche
- 1970-74 hard rock/glam with occassional prog folk elements (Hunky Dory)
- 1976-78 collaboration with Eno, Fripp, electronic/ambient prog
- 1980s only are pure pop IMO, but again with occassional arty approach
 
Prog-related at least.
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Points: 15585 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 15 2008 at 10:41
After consultation with M@x, David Bowie has been approved for addition as Prog Related.
 
If one of the prog teams decides to include him in their sub-genre, he can be moved when that decision is made.
 
Meanwhile, who is going to write the bio and add him? Teo?Big%20smile
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Points: 5502 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 15 2008 at 10:56
If needed I can write the Bio, just let me know if it's needed.
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