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Paper Champion
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Posted: January 31 2008 at 16:33 |
I was surprised when found out that FOABP is the best album of 2007 in most people's opinions. I don't want to say that the album is bad, but it's definitely a step back for Porcupines. To be honest, 2007 was full of great prog albums, just to mention Oceansize, Pelican, Satellite or The Gourishankar.
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Dim
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Posted: February 01 2008 at 20:30 |
^Ah, someone who actually liked City of echoes! I liked it too, very good sit back and relax music, not very progressive though.
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el böthy
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Posted: February 01 2008 at 22:30 |
2006 and 2005 had pictures and some words to it... mmm, I guess it´s good, Porcupine Tree, although I have many times stated which album I thought was the best of the year (In glorious times) is more than acceptable... I miss the pictures, that´s all
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"You want me to play what, Robert?"
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Easy Livin
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin
Joined: February 21 2004
Location: Scotland
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Posted: February 02 2008 at 03:57 |
If you'd like to post some pictures and words for them here, I'll gladly update the original post and give due credit.
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Paper Champion
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Posted: February 02 2008 at 13:07 |
schizoid_man77 wrote:
^Ah, someone who actually liked City of echoes! I liked it too, very good sit back and relax music, not very progressive though. |
Yeah, I agree with you, but City Of Echoes is the only Pelican album I like, it differs from the previous albums strongly - no more sludge in their music.
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Samir
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Posted: February 02 2008 at 13:57 |
My favorite album from the last year was Doomsday Afternoon by Phideaux, but i liked the Porcupine Tree album as well, well done collabs.
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lightbulb_son
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Posted: February 03 2008 at 22:39 |
Dear God!
Radiohead at 78!!!
SACRILEGE!!! BLASPHEMY!!!
Besides that jazz, I enjoyed the list, I think Do Make Say Think's latest was a tad underrated, same for John Zorn's Six Litanies for Heliogabalus.
Glad to see Sleepytime Gorilla Museum getting recognition, that was a brilliant album.
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When the world is sick
Can't no one be well
But I dreamt we were all
beautiful and strong
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mrgd
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Location: Australia
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Posted: February 04 2008 at 00:06 |
I fall into the category of enthusiasts who knows only a small percentage of the albums on the list so, for me, it represents a useful guide.
I am familiar with FOABP though and, for what it is worth, I think it's good but not that great. It seems that it was most popular by a long margin. Let's hope we are not getting too tunnel-visioned here with all things Wilson and PT [ having said that, the 'Arriving Somewhere ....' DVD is excellent imo].
Like 'Inverted', I would also like to put in a word for 'The Hemulic Voluntary Band' by RITUAL. The album has rated well here but may not be that widely known. Making the list may have given it some more exposure, as it is excellent . Again, for what it is worth, it's one of the few albums in some years about which, at the prospect of listening, I become quite excited ! !
[ Is that an Hemulin in your pocket, or are you just excited at the prospect of listening............... YEP]
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Looking still the same after all these years...
mrgd
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moreitsythanyou
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Posted: February 04 2008 at 01:22 |
lightbulb_son wrote:
Dear God!
Radiohead at 78!!!
SACRILEGE!!! BLASPHEMY!!!
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I concur. It truly is
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<font color=white>butts, lol[/COLOR]
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SoundsofSeasons
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Joined: March 08 2007
Location: Arizona -- USA
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Posted: February 04 2008 at 01:27 |
I was ecstatic to see that Neal Morse's Sola Scriptura was 5th place. Actually, I was more suprised than anything, although I absolutely believe it deserves that position. I just thought it would be hard for it to get in the top ten, since some people refuse to listen to Neal Morse's music period, for obvious reasons. Also, even if they do listen to it, a ceratin 'preachyness' sometimes sways their rating... though I think it's completely irrelevant to the quality of the music whether it is wanted or not.
Edited by SoundsofSeasons - February 04 2008 at 17:23
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1 Chronicles 13:7-9
Then David and all Israel played music before God with all their might, with singing, on harps, on stringed instruments, on tambourines, on cymbals, and with trumpets.
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Kotro
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Location: Portugal
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Posted: February 04 2008 at 06:04 |
moreitsythanyou wrote:
lightbulb_son wrote:
Dear God!
Radiohead at 78!!!
SACRILEGE!!! BLASPHEMY!!!
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I concur. It truly is
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I also agree that it is quite scandalous. Shouldn't even have made the list...
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Bigger on the inside.
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lightbulb_son
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Posted: February 04 2008 at 06:38 |
Kotro wrote:
moreitsythanyou wrote:
lightbulb_son wrote:
Dear God!
Radiohead at 78!!!
SACRILEGE!!! BLASPHEMY!!!
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I concur. It truly is
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I also agree that it is quite scandalous. Shouldn't even have made the list... |
Oh you Radiohead haters you
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When the world is sick
Can't no one be well
But I dreamt we were all
beautiful and strong
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Kotro
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Posted: February 04 2008 at 07:47 |
lightbulb_son wrote:
Kotro wrote:
moreitsythanyou wrote:
lightbulb_son wrote:
Dear God!
Radiohead at 78!!!
SACRILEGE!!! BLASPHEMY!!!
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I concur. It truly is
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I also agree that it is quite scandalous. Shouldn't even have made the list... |
Oh you Radiohead haters you |
Not a hater, mate. I was just now listening to Kid A. I'm just a realist.
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Bigger on the inside.
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lightbulb_son
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Posted: February 04 2008 at 20:43 |
Kotro wrote:
lightbulb_son wrote:
Kotro wrote:
moreitsythanyou wrote:
lightbulb_son wrote:
Dear God!
Radiohead at 78!!!
SACRILEGE!!! BLASPHEMY!!!
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I concur. It truly is
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I also agree that it is quite scandalous. Shouldn't even have made the list... |
Oh you Radiohead haters you |
Not a hater, mate. I was just now listening to Kid A. I'm just a realist. |
I don't think it measures up with Kid A either, or OK Computer for that matter, but it still towers over the majority of 2007's offerings IMO.
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When the world is sick
Can't no one be well
But I dreamt we were all
beautiful and strong
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johnobvious
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Posted: February 05 2008 at 19:33 |
This year was a bit of a disappointment. In Abstentia is one of my all time favorites
and I love Deadwing, but FOABP has not tripped my trigger. Neal Morse also was not near as good as what
I feel was his crowning achievement, ?. Seiges Even was a bit of a letdown and
I didn’t even bother buying Rush, my first love in music. I couldn’t find 13th Star or Dear
hunter, which I would like to hear.
Flower Kings, Glass Hammer were great and Phideaux, which I just heard yesterday is also really good.
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Biggles was in rehab last Saturday
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The Wizard
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Posted: February 05 2008 at 20:02 |
Best of 2007 = Robert Wyatt - Comicopera
it's an undeniable fact
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moreitsythanyou
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Posted: February 05 2008 at 20:41 |
lightbulb_son wrote:
Kotro wrote:
lightbulb_son wrote:
Kotro wrote:
moreitsythanyou wrote:
lightbulb_son wrote:
Dear God!
Radiohead at 78!!!
SACRILEGE!!! BLASPHEMY!!!
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I concur. It truly is
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I also agree that it is quite scandalous. Shouldn't even have made the list... |
Oh you Radiohead haters you |
Not a hater, mate. I was just now listening to Kid A. I'm just a realist. |
I don't think it measures up with Kid A either, or OK Computer for that matter, but it still towers over the majority of 2007's offerings IMO. |
I actually do prefer it to OK Computer by a bit but yeah pales in comparison to Kid A and Amnesiac. Still, as you said, towers over the 2007 offerings, and it's been a damn good year for music.
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<font color=white>butts, lol[/COLOR]
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johnobvious
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Posted: February 06 2008 at 13:31 |
The Wizard wrote:
Best of 2007 = Robert Wyatt - Comicopera
it's an undeniable fact |
If this album is so good, why aren't there many more reviews for it? I haven't heard it but was considering buying it last night with an itunes credit I have. Only 3 written reviews for the number 2 album of the year seems a little odd. I went with The Dear Hunter instead.
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Biggles was in rehab last Saturday
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Logan
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Posted: February 06 2008 at 14:24 |
johnobvious wrote:
The Wizard wrote:
Best of 2007 = Robert Wyatt - Comicopera
it's an undeniable fact
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If this album is so
good, why aren't there many more reviews for it? I haven't heard it
but was considering buying it last night with an itunes credit I have.
Only 3 written reviews for the number 2 album of the year seems a
little odd. I went with The Dear Hunter instead.
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The music speaks for itself.
It gets mentioned by a number of "Collaborators" quite a bit, but not
that much by others, and non-"Prog Reviewer" collaborators are often
busier with other site things than reviews.
It's my most played album of 2007, but I wouldn't recommend it to most
Proggers. It's subtle, tasteful, and mature with an intimate sound.
When one is tired of the excess of so much Prog this is a refreshing
album to visit that is categorised under the "prog umbrella". I don't think it that "Prog", actually, but nicely
progressive. It's rather poppy and light jazzy, but lovely, and with a
wonderful sense of wit and sincerity. Some won't like some of the
messages in the music as Wyatt has a leftist ideology.
Anyway, if one is not that familiar with Wyatt, this wouldn't be the first I'd recommend. Rock Bottom is his one to start with and his work with Soft Machine and Matching Mole.
If I were to review it (reviewing not being my thing), I don't know
that I'd have much to say of interest. It's more smoky pub, or smoky lounge music than
big arena music. Maybe because it has an intimate feel to it, and
doesn't try to hit you over the head with wow moments (is subtle), one
may not feel compelled to review it so much even if one loves the
music. Better to experience it intimately, for me, than to read about it
and share one's personal relationship with the music and the artist.
It helps greatly to be an admirer of Wyatt already -- it's a very
personable album from a personable artist. And while it is not the
most obviously Prog of albums, it's something that many fans of the
Canterbury Scene will find much to love.
It has made various professional magazine lists as one of the best of the year.
It wasn't my number one choice in the end, but it's the one I really
enjoy and continually revisit -- I gave Rational Diet's as my top
choice (it only has three written reviews too). JohnObvious, looking at your reviews, I see you haven't reviewed any Canterbury Scene albums. I don't know how much you know from the category, or how much you like Canterbury Scene music already, nor do I know how much you like jazzy music, but based on your reviews, it is not something that I would recommend to you. I'd go to other Canterbury and Wyatt albums beforehand (though this is a very accessible album, I would say, generally-speaking).
Edited by Logan - February 06 2008 at 14:52
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chopper
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Posted: February 06 2008 at 17:31 |
johnobvious wrote:
This year was a bit of a disappointment. In Abstentia is one of my all time favorites
and I love Deadwing, but FOABP has not tripped my trigger. Neal Morse also was not near as good as what
I feel was his crowning achievement, ?. Seiges Even was a bit of a letdown and
I didn’t even bother buying Rush, my first love in music. I couldn’t find 13th Star or Dear
hunter, which I would like to hear.
Flower Kings, Glass Hammer were great and Phideaux, which I just heard yesterday is also really good.
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The Dear Hunter CDs are available from Amazon.
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