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Points: 4411 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 25 2008 at 08:38
I've added the debut album of Gan Eden - Il Giardino delle Delizie.
 
The artist published it with his real name "Angelo Sant Lombardi" at the end of 2004.
 
The album title is "I Giorni di Eurisko" and is available on e-bay and it's a mix between symphonic-prog, classic and pop. The follow up Lavori in Corso is a whole sympho prog record.
 
 
 


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getting reacquainted with an old favorite... might review this today...



for those who haven't been exposed to Jacula yet.... you can judge a book by it's cover...
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and reviewed...  nice to have a 3 day weekend.  Several others I might review.
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Great review, Micky. Thanks a lot for your valuable and competent work.Clap
 
 
I would like to share with you a though or two about how much popular has become RPI (or should I say definitely ISP?).
 
There is a similar thread on about another genre which is so familiar nowadays (post rock-metal).
 
 
Similar pages' number, similar posts' number but.... what a difference on views... it seems that many people are involved and willing to know more of this oftenly obscure musical prog scene.
 
 
Post Rock/metal?
By schizoid_man77, October 21 2007 at 21:08
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Another very good album. Seems no one mentioned it here.

 
(not because mine is extremely good, but because the album deserves better recognition).
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Never listened to it 'cause I simply never found ot on the shelf of my beloved prog rock shop.
 
Thanks for the recommendation. Tongue
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^ I've found it only by chance, in a record store in ... Moscow. Smile
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^ good recommendation....  I'll review that today.. there are few reviews of that.

and thanks for the kind words Andrea... I never like reviewing... never think I am doing an album justice. I leave that for the talented writers among us.
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One of my favourite Italian albums ever - I NOMADI, veterans of Italian rock, "I Nomadi interpretano Guccini" (1974):
 
I guess the band is known in their country to almost everyone. All songs written by Francesco Guccini, one of the most important Italian singers-songwriters, and beautifully arranged by Vince Tempera (ex-Il Volo and long-time Guccini's collaborator).
 
It is the only progressive album by the band. Musically the album is not too complex, but it has, in my opinion, perfect balance between music and lyrics. It seems to me, even if you don't speak Italian you can feel - it's not only a set of words, it's poetry, words have their own rhythm and go together wonderfully. (I'm far from being great Italian speaker).
 
Try this album, if musical complexity is not the main thing for you.
Warning: there is an album with similar title, "I Nomadi cantano Guccini" (1973), it's only beat music.
 


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Originally posted by NotAProghead NotAProghead wrote:

One of my favourite Italian albums ever - I NOMADI, veterans of Italian rock, "I Nomadi interpretano Guccini" (1974):
 
I guess the band is known in their country to almost everyone. All songs written by Francesco Guccini, one of the most important Italian singers-songwriters, and beautifully arranged by Vince Tempera (ex-Il Volo and long-time Guccini's collaborator).
 
It is the only progressive album by the band. Musically the album is not too complex, but it has, in my opinion, perfect balance between music and lyrics. It seems to me, even if you don't speak Italian you can feel - it's not only a set of words, it's poetry, words have their own rhythm and go together wonderfully. (I'm far from being great Italian speaker).
 
Try this album, if musical complexity is not the main thing for you.
Warning: there is an album with similar title, "I Nomadi cantano Guccini" (1973), it's only beat music.
 


I've never heard this album, though I know the one released in 1973. I Nomadi and Guccini were amongst my favourite acts when I was a teenager, so I still have a soft spot for them though nowadays I listen to different kinds of music. By the way, Guccini's lyrics are great, though my favourite Italian singer-songwriter is the late Fabrizio De André.
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Originally posted by Ghost Rider Ghost Rider wrote:

I've never heard this album, though I know the one released in 1973. I Nomadi and Guccini were amongst my favourite acts when I was a teenager, so I still have a soft spot for them though nowadays I listen to different kinds of music.
 
Raffaella, if you liked I Nomadi, I think it's worth to listen to "I Nomadi interpretano Guccini". Back then, in 1974, it was a big step forward for the band musically. The orchestra involved in this record (though it is not credited on CD), it enriched band's sound, but it is not one more "concerto for group and orchestra", the balance is perfect.
Since 1974 the song from this album "Il vecchio e il bambino" is constantly in band's live set. "Asia", most epical track, "La canzone della bambina portogese" and "La collina" were played in concerts from time to time too.
Anyway very special album in the entire band's discography.
 
Originally posted by Ghost Rider Ghost Rider wrote:

Guccini's lyrics are great, though my favourite Italian singer-songwriter is the late Fabrizio De Andr鮠
Mine too, but unfortunately I Nomadi never played Fabrizio's songs Cry Wink.
 


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Returning on Battiato ...: The complexity of his music is also reflected in last album:
FRANCO BATTIATO

Il Vuoto

2007

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4%20stars My review is produced using this release: Universal Music Italia s.r.l. Mercury 1722972

Rating: 8/ 10

Is this a good album of modern Italian POP or a clear example of an other way of RPI? I don't know. To explain music of Battiato is impossible. Cerebral POP, Synthetic Emotional music, Progressive Prog POP(?!?) or... In this case Battiato seem wish to copy the modern Italian POP but it doesn't succeed to defeat its ghost. And so the songs has in possess of synthetic atmospheres. If "Il Vuoto" is a good example of one strange mix between Hip Hop, "La Voce Del Padrone" period and the null, one song that "Aspettando L'Estate" is more POP but just for this it is much difficult. But the better example of the Synthetic POP of "Il Vuoto" is "Niente � Pi� Lo Stesso" where Battiato seems to play between acoustic guitar, electronic drums and the Orchestra (the Royal Philarmonic Orchestra) with the additions of Battiato's lyrics that in this case are much more comprehensible becoming true and own visual poetries. In this sense the poetic lyrics of "Tiepido Aprile" is another good example.Battiato in this album uses also to create one joke between Tchaikovsky and Tolstoi in "Era L'Inizio Della Primavera" that destabilizes. Is a Battiato more modern, synthetic, entranced, poet but just for this moreireflexive and cheerful.

I repeat: I don't Know if "Il Vuoto" is a Prog album. But in every case is a very good album. And "Il Vuoto" confirm Battiato like one of the more representative Italian artists.
What I believe is one of the gems of 2007 regarding the Italian Prog.
 
It must be said that for a soloist, it is easier to change and update their style to the current mode. But Battiato was able to participate in various musical fashions ... Not ever changing its style but simply by updating its style!


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ahhhh Mandy.. a man after my heart... HeartLOL
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Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

ahhhh Mandy.. a man after my heart... HeartLOL
 
Ohhh, micky... See this:
 
and this:
 
A way their two albums who say the same thing: Prog is art. And in fact Battiato, Jacula and Metheny are three of the Prog Impressionists!
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I just reviewed some Jacula yesterday...  checking them out...
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Points: 46838 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2008 at 18:07
hahahhahha.. classic review Mandy... here.. let it shine for all to see...

JACULA

In Cauda Semper Stat Venenum

1969

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Rating: 9/10

In 1969 Mr Antonio Bertoccetti (Antonius Rex) decides to tranfert itself in London where the musical ideas were feer and decides finally of to record this masterpiece of the Black Prog. The album was printed in 300 copies+ 10 promo and distributed to nun sects! Substantially it is an album for church organ and electric guitar with recited vocal parts. The first listening I carried out it in a car and I should say that a headache got me... The second I carried out to the darkness, headphone and volume to the stars! That fear, that suggestions... all the songs put fear but "Magister Dixit", "Triumphatus Sad", "Intiatjo" and "In Cauda Semper" have an evocative power than hasn't equal. Hypnotic, darknesses, not songs... Go listened to night, to the light of the full Moon, in a castle (or church or abbey) in ruin. After not say me that the mental hospital is yours house!

You go in www.italianprog.com and sought the page of Jacula and read the interview. You will understand because "In Cauda Semper Stat Venenum" is a sincere album, kind and gotic but ever above the lines. To have even if hated the treated subject.

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Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

I just reviewed some Jacula yesterday...  checking them out...
 
I read, I read!
 
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great album.... going to review the '72 album after dinner after I turn out all the lights and maybe light a candle or two...
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Points: 46838 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2008 at 18:12
that bio for Jacula could really stand to be rewritten
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Points: 4411 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2008 at 18:16
I'm just returned home after a fast pizza dinner. Today I've listened a beloved classic: New Trolls Atomic System.
 
Tornare a Credere is great. This album is special for me. I think it could be added in my top 10 RPI record ever!Clap
 
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