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    Posted: January 25 2008 at 05:06


                             Budget headphone's selection -update-


PA people often ask me some headphone's advices. As i've tried many models recently, here's a little selection of budget headphones, of good musical value of course and at very attractive price (i especially think of our youngest members, but not only). All the models presented here doesn't require a dedicated headphone's amplifier, and so can be drive directly from any portable source such as an Ipod.
I don't present "earbud" type cause i don't like it too much, because most of them lack low (even if some of them has some of the most beautiful highs and extreme highs). So, i've selected "earpads" models which have the other advantage to be much more confortable than the earbuds ones, which doesn't let the ear "breathes" much. If some of you are interested in earbuds models anyway, i can provide some advices as well.


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Sennheiser PX100

The smallest quality headphone on the market. In the same league as the
Koss "Porta Pro" but slightly better, and with excellent ergonomics. Sennheiser's sound aesthetic: soft and musical, perfect to soften sub-digital quality MP3. Not a real hifi headphone, but a great value for the price. There's nothing below. Musically better than bigger (isolated) models.






Beyerdynamic DT 231

A winner in the earpad category: extremely musical, a tight and quick low end for such budget headphone, a warm midrange that will soften a lot your harsh MP3. It's limited in extreme highs but so musical that it's not a problem. Extremely confortable and features only one cable, which is convenient.





Sennheiser EH 350

Great performance for the price: highly efficient, well balanced, well extended on both ends of the spectrum, neutral, it also features
a good soundstage.




                                 






To feed your headphones with a cheap quality analog portable source: Sangean pocket tuners

DT 110


DT 120







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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 25 2008 at 05:52
I recently got the Sennheiser HD 515 ... I'm not really happy with it. Maybe I'll try one of the mid range (3xx) headphones, like the one you suggested!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 25 2008 at 07:03
I don't know that one...are you sure about the reference?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 25 2008 at 07:44
^ sorry, my mistake ... it's HD 515.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 25 2008 at 07:53
OK, indeed the HD515 lack some resolution in the mids/highs and has a slightly nasal coloration. For the same price, the HD485 is better, and for some extra bucks, the HD555 is much better.

A killer combo is the HD 555 drived by a Headroom "Total Bithead" amp:



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 25 2008 at 08:31
^ I agree about the "nasal" quality of the HD 515 ... unfortunately I can't return it to the store because of that. But how should this amp fix the problem? 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 25 2008 at 08:34
Sorry i did a mistake, i mean the 555 ( i just corrected my post) drived by this portable amp. No, there's nothing to do about your 515, except to sell it back, on Ebay for example.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 25 2008 at 09:57
^ I'll probably keep it as a backup ... I wouldn't want to inflict this kind of torture on other people. It's just sad that out of all the big Sennheiser headphones I picked the crappy model ... I would never have thought that I would need to check reviews before buying a Sennheiser product.

So ... maybe now I'll go with AKG, just to teach Sennheiser a lesson!Evil%20Smile 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 25 2008 at 12:19
I stick by Consumer Reports recommendations, I've bought a set of the Sony portable ear buds and the home model (Grado) and have been really happy with them.  I haven't had much experience with home models but lots of experience with ear bud types particularly those that come with digital music players and they've all been crappy.  Really impressed with the Sony ones.  The best I've heard of that type.  Haven't tried the airplane types.

Best for music, especially at home:
Grado SR-60 $70 CR Best Buy
Grado SR-80 $95
 
Best for airplanes:
 
Best for use with portable audio players:

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 25 2008 at 12:59
The two Grado's are good.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 25 2008 at 14:21
Originally posted by oliverstoned oliverstoned wrote:

The two Grado's are good.


I have a problem with my set that is more physical in nature rather than perfomance.  The phones come off the little poles that mount them to the band too easily.  I can rescrew them on but still...

But hey, a good set of headphones is a great way to enjoy prog without annoying your loved ones too much.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 25 2008 at 23:43
I have Grado SR60s and Sennheiser HD202s.  The Grados can sound "bright" and the Sennheisers too bass-exaggerated, but overall worth purchasing.  The $15-20 HD202s are way better than standard iPod earplugs.  I'd like to upgrade sometime in 2008, hopefully to HD600s after I sell some stuff on eBay and get birthday money.  The HD600s are more appealing to me than more-expensive Grado models because of the closed design and better reviews.  Are they worth investing if I don't have a headphone amp, or should I consider the HD555 instead?  I'd like an amp eventually, but ones I've looked at are more expensive than the headphones themselves!


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2008 at 04:16

Glad to see you're an Agitation free fan.
No, the 600 or 650 is not worth without headphone amp, but Headroom does excellent pure class A portable (or not)amps (20 h autonomy)that will drive wonderfully a 600 or 650:

It costs 400 dollars:



http://www.headphone.com/products/headphone-amps/the-micro-line/2007-headroom-portable-micro-amp.php
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2008 at 06:09
Originally posted by oliverstoned oliverstoned wrote:


Glad to see you're an Agitation free fan.
No, the 600 or 650 is not worth without headphone amp, but Headroom does excellent pure class A portable (or not)amps (20 h autonomy)that will drive wonderfully a 600 or 650:

It costs 400 dollars:



http://www.headphone.com/products/headphone-amps/the-micro-line/2007-headroom-portable-micro-amp.php


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2008 at 06:48
What do you mean? Do you find it great or too expensive?

From my experience, i warmly recommend it. I've recently tried the Headroom Micro Amp with HD 600 & 650 (i've got both) and it's very good, though of course not as good as my Sugden Le Bijou (Class A also)home headphone amp (which costs around 1500 dollars new).
But i made a mistake when ordering, confusing the portable one with the
non-portable. So i sent it back, and the portable will not be available until late March.
Anyway, these little amps work wonderful, and this spring, i'll be in the meadows, listening to tapes through my Sony WM-D6 professional portable cassette deck, linked to the Portable micro amp, that will drive my HD 650!!

One thing that i don't know, is that if the Total bithead amp (see up), a smaller, and more basic amp, would be abble to drive properly a 600 or 650.

But for sure, the HD 555/Total bithead combo is awesome. Maybe the solution for you.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2008 at 09:58
Maybe I'll get the HD 555 ... but not the amp. My hi-fi is more than capable of driving big headphones, and I would never use such big headphones in a mobile situation. For that I strongly recommend in-ear headphones.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2008 at 18:06
The HD555s are open headphones right?  I'd prefer closed because I like filtering out some noise when I'm listening to music and I'm sure sound leakage is annoying for people around me as well.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 27 2008 at 02:26
^ in-ear headphones are *ideal* for that. Nearly all environmental noise is filtered out, and there is virtually no sound leakage. And because they are so small and so close to the ear membrane, they need very little power, so your batteries will last longer. And last but not least: You look less "nerdy" than someone walking around in a subway with big headphones.LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 27 2008 at 06:15
Originally posted by oliverstoned oliverstoned wrote:

What do you mean? Do you find it great or too expensive?





The price tag of course. Big%20smile

Budget headphones if money is no object? LOL


Edited by Slartibartfast - January 27 2008 at 06:16
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 27 2008 at 09:03
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

My hi-fi is more than capable of driving big headphones


...drive it properly? Certainly not.
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