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JJLehto 
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 Posted: January 21 2008 at 20:34 |
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Oh wow, I am very surprised.
I expected rap to have like 3 times as many votes.
Well, personally I think emo is worse.
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chamberry
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Posted: January 21 2008 at 21:24 |
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Anyone cares to listen to 30 Seconds To Mars or any of the Rap / Hip-hop artists mentioned?
Hello?
Anybody?
...
*dies waiting*
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heyitsthatguy
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Posted: January 21 2008 at 23:02 |
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not a 30 Seconds to Mars fan
but I'm sure there's *some* emo somewhere I would find enjoyable
there is no completely bad genre that I have found yet
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Proletariat
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Posted: January 22 2008 at 00:00 |
 chamberry wrote:
Anyone cares to listen to 30 Seconds To Mars or any of the Rap / Hip-hop artists mentioned?
Hello?
Anybody?
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*dies waiting*
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well considering your already dead...
Umm.. 30 Seconds to Mars is ok, and though I dont see the prog connection are a good origional band with mainstream success, somthing that needs to be applauded
and I think I have already talked about alot of the rap bands you mentioned, underground rap/hip-hop is one of my favourite genres.
In closing I would like to point out that Coheed and Cambria, The Dear Hunter, and The Mars Volta, all stemmed from the "emo" scene, and therfore it cant be all bad.
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Apsalar
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Posted: January 22 2008 at 00:38 |
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Ruben you are not alone. Though I must admit I have not heard any material people would call 'emo', so I cannot comment on the genre. I'd avoided posting in this thread before as there was only one direction it was heading. Over the last two years I have branched out my musical tastes, hip-hop being one of them and haven't regretted it. It started with the avant-garde side of the genre as this is where I felt most culturally at home, and moved on towards the soul/jazz side.
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JJLehto
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Posted: January 22 2008 at 15:00 |
I like Immortal Technique
And some old school rap
oh and I dont know why but I also like tech n9ne
Emo = worse than rap deff
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Zargus
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Posted: January 22 2008 at 19:28 |
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EMO is worse, i like some rap. Old scool rap/hip hop like public enemy is great.
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Avantgardehead
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Posted: January 23 2008 at 00:33 |
This poll proves that just about no one knows what real emo is. The crap you hear on the radio and MTV isn't real emo at all. First wave emo was known as "emotional hardcore" and existed in the mid 80's to early 90's. It was just that, emotional hardcore punk. Second wave emo is my favorite and was when the bands mellowed out and got artsier. Second wave emo was closer to hard rock and sometimes metal than punk and was very very beautiful. But then you get these modern bands who basically have nothing to do with real emo and they're horrible. Also, I'd pick any form of real music over rap any day. 
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*Porcupine*
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Posted: January 23 2008 at 00:46 |
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Rap is just bad some people only like it because of the beats not the words were some of the emo rock isnt that bad at least they write there own music and play instruments.
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Petrovsk Mizinski
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Posted: January 23 2008 at 00:53 |
Avantgardehead wrote:
This poll proves that just about no one knows what real emo is. The crap you hear on the radio and MTV isn't real emo at all. First wave emo was known as "emotional hardcore" and existed in the mid 80's to early 90's. It was just that, emotional hardcore punk. Second wave emo is my favorite and was when the bands mellowed out and got artsier. Second wave emo was closer to hard rock and sometimes metal than punk and was very very beautiful. But then you get these modern bands who basically have nothing to do with real emo and they're horrible.
Also, I'd pick any form of real music over rap any day.
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I have in fact heard many of the second wave emo bands and to be honest, it was still no better than average music to my ears. And yes, the currents "emo" bands are absolutely atrocious and i really would rather listen to the real emo bands. Emo as a genre has had no influence on me as a musician and to be honest, if it never existed, it would never have had much of a difference to many of the musicans on Progarchives. Having said that, if i come across people in the street, i tend to find the "emo" scene kids to be really friendly, caring and have even made friends among them. I am yet to find any "pure rap" people i would like to talk to, because the majority of them seem more interested in graffiting, vandalism and starting fights for no reason. So i think i will finally make my definitive pick and say Emo is better.
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Avantgardehead
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Posted: January 23 2008 at 03:02 |
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Yes, rap fans have given me the most trouble out of any musical group. Always trying to "convert" me, it seems...
Anyway, I love emo because of *drumroll* the emotion. It's so palpable and when I hear the perfect combination of emotion in both music and lyrics, it's amazing.
Edited by Avantgardehead - January 23 2008 at 03:04
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Jimbo
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Posted: January 23 2008 at 03:33 |
I hate anything that doesn't have a mellotron in it. 
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JJLehto
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Posted: January 23 2008 at 15:52 |
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mellotron rap???
Interesting.....
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Philéas
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Posted: January 23 2008 at 16:57 |
Avantgardehead wrote:
Anyway, I love emo because of *drumroll* the emotion. It's so palpable and when I hear the perfect combination of emotion in both music and lyrics, it's amazing.
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Yes. The old Emo of course. There isn't any proper emotion in the new stuff.
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chamberry
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Posted: January 23 2008 at 21:40 |
Avantgardehead wrote:
This poll proves that just about no one knows what real emo is. The crap you hear on the radio and MTV isn't real emo at all. First wave emo was known as "emotional hardcore" and existed in the mid 80's to early 90's. It was just that, emotional hardcore punk. Second wave emo is my favorite and was when the bands mellowed out and got artsier. Second wave emo was closer to hard rock and sometimes metal than punk and was very very beautiful. But then you get these modern bands who basically have nothing to do with real emo and they're horrible.
Also, I'd pick any form of real music over rap any day.
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I'm aware about the existence of the early emo bands, but I haven't heard them yet. It's obvious that the thread starter was referring to the newest wave of emo rock that's all the rave on MTV so I just went along with it. 
Edited by chamberry - January 23 2008 at 21:41
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moreitsythanyou
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Posted: January 23 2008 at 21:45 |
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King Crimson776
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Posted: January 24 2008 at 21:57 |
Proletariat wrote:
Coheed and Cambria, The Dear Hunter, and The Mars Volta, all stemmed from the "emo" scene |
exactly
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Proletariat
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Posted: January 24 2008 at 22:10 |
ha ha, and Europe stemmed from prog
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King Crimson776
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Posted: January 24 2008 at 22:26 |
^^ not to say of course that C&C and TMV are worse than emo, but still; you see what happens to anything emo touches.
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chamberry
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Posted: January 25 2008 at 19:17 |
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It makes the singers castrate themselves?
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What's worse -- emo "rock" or rap?
