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    Posted: January 23 2008 at 13:12
Well, people I like this band called 30 SECONDS TO MARS ,and they just seem a little proggy...In the albums and in a lot of they're compositions...Well I just wanted to know the opinion of you guys.

WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THESE GUYS,are they like Porcupine Tree or Muse, or maybe they are just another alternative rock band that passes on MTV.


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I dunno.  I'll go and listen to some.
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Not on the strength of the four songs on their MySpace page; they're pretty bog-standard alt rock.  In fairness to them, they're not half as dire as one might expect an actor's vanity project band to be.
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i wouldnt call Thirty Seconds to Mars a vanity project... its not like the bruce willis album or lyndsay lohann. Hes got a legitimate band and they write some good music.  No progressive presence in the music however (though people take a little too much stock in that classification anyways). id call them minorly arty alternative.
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Points: 27802 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 23 2008 at 15:50
If they aren't already in the archives this topic should not be here.
 
Moved to the Suggest section.


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No ive heard some of there songs there not Prog but there not that bad. There to main stream to be Prog and my best friend who hates Prog likes them. 
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putting this on list to check out.. getting longer by the post LOL
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Points: 46833 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 23 2008 at 16:20
Had an appointment cancel due to defective link LOL so I'll bump this one up.

I assume they have a myspace page...


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No. Not Prog at all.
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The first album had a few very very vague prog moments, but that's really it. Alternative rock through and through.
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Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Had an appointment cancel due to defective link LOL so I'll bump this one up.

I assume they have a myspace page...
 
That's because the suggestion is just so funny(my apologies to the topic creator,but it is.)
 
Their frontman is actor Jared Leto.They aren't bad for commercial,mainstream alt. rock...but prog?
 
Sorry...NO.


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Their debut was actually.... quite...  proggy.

I hear some  Tool, King Crimson and Pink Floyd in there, BUT don't expect their influences to appear right in yer face. Try to avoid their singles and second album. The band's songwriting took big steps backwards when they released their sophomore effort.

If anything they're as prog as Muse or Coheed and Cambria, but I'm not going to bother fighting for a band that'll have 0% probability of being here because of their latest "emo" MTV status.


I got an idea! Why not add the prog bands first and the pseudo-proggy bands later? Wink

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Originally posted by chamberry chamberry wrote:


I got an idea! Why not add the prog bands first and the pseudo-proggy bands later? Wink



You mean we should actually focus on prog!Shocked What will the masses think if we do that?Wink
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Originally posted by sleeper sleeper wrote:

Originally posted by chamberry chamberry wrote:


I got an idea! Why not add the prog bands first and the pseudo-proggy bands later? Wink



You mean we should actually focus on prog!Shocked What will the masses think if we do that?Wink

Way ahead of you, buddy.  That's why I added that famous indie rock band called Deerhoof last week. Wink

They'll never catch on to us.

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Why don't we start considering Linkin Park and Korn prog rock while we're at it, huh?
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I always though David Hasselhoff was prog.... And he enjoyed success in Germany, so there you go...
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Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

I always though David Hasselhoff was prog.... And he enjoyed success in Germany, so there you go...

A new adition to Krautrock, perhaps?LOL
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Chamberry wrote:

Quote I got an idea! Why not add the prog bands first and the pseudo-proggy bands later?

 

ClapClapClapClapClap Bravo Chamberry, that’s what I been asking in different terms for over a year.

 

When Prog Related was created I was against it, but then discovered that it was a good alternative to give Art Rock it’s real place and not a paradise for Prog wannabes.

 

But then something changed, Prog Related became the center of attention, everybodu tried to include their favorite band or artist, despite they were Alternative, Heavy Metal, Pop, etc; with forced relations (One of their member played in a Prog Related band) or the empty argument “If X is here, why not Y”.

 

Each time somebody tried to dispute an inclusion, the usual names were called: Close minded….Stuck in the 70’s….Enemy of musical evolution…..and some even started with insults like ignorant, idiot, or worst (I’ve been called all of them and acouple more).

 

I’m not against Prog Related, I believe it’s necessary, but the parameters are too wide and worst, people care more for pseudo-proggy bands than for Prog bands.

 

I’m sure that if we start a thread about:

 

  1. Abbhama
  2. Karda Estra
  3. Anton Roolaart
  4. Shadow Circus
  5. Deluge Grander
  6. Karfagen
  7. Atilla Kollar
  8. Obscura
  9. Laghonia
  10. El Reloj

 

We’ll see not more than 5 or 6 replies if even too many. But start a thread about:

 

  1. Boston
  2. Toto
  3. Coldplay
  4. Eagles
  5. Tears for Fears 

And we will have several pages of replies.

 

Our priorities are wrong, Prog Related should be used with extreme caution, only after verified if the band is really related or has EVIDENT Prog elements, should be even debated, but not, despite the results, the same bands are rejected two, three or four times in different threads as if the future of Prog Archives depended on a Prog Related addition.

 

On the other hand we have Prog artists that have asked for an inclusion, even sent their CD’s and nobody cares, and even when we add them the post of the person who added them is the only one because people is worried about non Prog bands.

 

Prog Related bands will come, but we should not make a priority of them, only if some pretty obvious case is presented once in a while, it should be carefully checked and added, but we find every day more and more pseudo Proggy bands and less new Prog Artists.

 

My two cents.

 

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