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Raff
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Posted: January 23 2008 at 06:21 | |||
For those of you who don't speak Italian, the title is the same as ELP's third album - which is the Italian translation of the title of Mussorgsky's composition.
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andrea
Prog Reviewer Joined: May 20 2005 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 2071 |
Posted: January 23 2008 at 08:43 | |||
^^ Yes, but it won't be an ELP cover! Look at the fifth post on this thread... |
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micky
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Posted: January 23 2008 at 08:50 | |||
good deal.. .would hate to come back just to tread old ground... really looking forward to this one.
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Andrea Cortese
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Posted: January 23 2008 at 17:36 | |||
Hi, this morning I went toward Trento. There was a very cold air around those beautiful snowy mounts.
While driving my car between the rocky shapes of the valley I listened to Sulle Corde di Aries and Pollution ... just because I want to know why I'm the only one to rate it so low.
Well, I have to say that I still prefer Pollution (songs as Areknamès and Beta sounds very good to me). Lyrics are more refined in Aries, though (as in Aria di Rivoluzione or in the long opener itself).
BTW, I confirm the closer of Sulle Corde di Aries (Da Oriente ad Occidente) as the most favourite of mine due to the interesting mix between the ethereal metaphysical sound (vocals + keys) and acoustic instruments (oboe for example, I think).
Probably my final vote of Sulle Corde could be rounded up to three... or does it should?
On about Murple, I'm very interested too. You see how many big surprises are waiting for this year!!! Edited by Andrea Cortese - January 23 2008 at 17:38 |
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Andrea Cortese
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Posted: January 23 2008 at 18:11 | |||
A new album for Malaavia (the band's name has now changed to Carovana Eterea Malaavia - CEM).
The new album is titled Vibrazioni Liquide (2008) and it's the long awaited follow up to Danze d'Incenso (2004). A moderately good imporvements, as they say.
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Mandrakeroot
Forum Senior Member Italian Prog Specialist Joined: March 01 2006 Location: San Foca, Friûl Status: Offline Points: 5851 |
Posted: January 23 2008 at 19:25 | |||
Mamma mia! Too many albums and all together! However the Italian scene remains too "dark" and I do not know what could be producing publish all these albums ... I do not think selling a lot and are already counting the wounds for the second time (Lizard is an example ...). PFM and New Trolls are not enough to sell anyone and I believe that the scene if they remain as dark sooner or later could erupt.
Sorry to say ... But I see her so. Will also wrong ... But I can not see otherwise. |
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micky
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Posted: January 23 2008 at 21:17 | |||
hahahhahah.. your rating of Sulle Corde does sort of stand out my friend hahahha. I'd say 3.. maybe ..err... 4 stars Pfff... just call it as you see it Andrea. |
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Andrea Cortese
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Posted: January 24 2008 at 05:34 | |||
Does someone have put his hands on this recent one? I'm very interested!
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Andrea Cortese
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Posted: January 24 2008 at 05:45 | |||
There's an interesting thing about modern italian prog bands.
Few collaborators have their cds or even are aware of them (me included, obviously)!!
Let's talk about BRIGHT HORIZON that have released an excellent debut album in 2005.
20 reviewers in this site have rated it with 4.04 stars. No collaborators, though...
Edited by Andrea Cortese - January 24 2008 at 05:46 |
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Andrea Cortese
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Posted: January 24 2008 at 05:49 | |||
Great review on CAP today (I still have to post a review on their 1998 album Robin delle Stelle).
Well done, Thomas
CONSORZIO ACQUA POTABILE — Il Bianco Regno Di Dooha Review by tszirmay (Thomas Szirmay) Prog Reviewer Maani, it's time to duck, flying (and razor sharp) Cds are aimed at your head, joking... . Time for me to admit that I may, just may be biased in any dealings with CAP, a perennial favorite (their Nei Gorghi del Tempo” is a true prog classic, soon to be reviewed) and who were super gracious in transcontinental e- mailings and mailings (Mau Venegoni sent me a copy of this album as well as his personal copy CD of their debut which I had only on tape, ugh!) and even greater when meeting Mau and Massimo Gorlezza in Milan summer ’03! The previous album “Robin delle Stelle” was a true revelation (soon to be reviewed) of the power of their unique formula of grandiose symphonic prog. “Il Bianco Regno di Dooah” is the third superb studio album from these part-time proggers (Mau is a salami factory owner and Massimo, an architect!), clearly exultingly making music for art sake and not to provide for their families! Rock stars they are not, exquisitely dedicated amateur musicians, absolutely ! The group is composed of 8 stellar musicians, with 2 guitarists, 2 keyboardists, bass, drummer, reed player and lead vocalist, who are all committed to the CAP style, a highly operatic formula and typical of the Italian progressive school. The theme is another somewhat Celtic fairy tale story of castles and kingdoms (the Kingdom of Dooah) with massive choruses that return through the course of this disc, starting off with the sweeping majesty of “Opener”. By laying down the medieval musical spine, the fabric of the tale is woven tight, the electric guitars giving this a particular bite, marshaled by some solid bass and ripping drums. There are dashes throughout of Tull, hints of Gryphon, wisps of Giant but totally original and in constant effervescence, with countless detailed touches that keep the listener on an unending edge. “L’Illusione della Sfera” is the first major masterwork, the sweeping synths underscore the recurring theme, propelling relentlessly forward until the nimble piano and recorder decide to veer off in a moody direction, setting the table for lead singer Maurizio Mercandino to release his rather soulful take on the matter at hand. Playful, intricate and most satisfying. “Luna Impigliata Tra I Rami” is a fragile acoustic guitar interlude, courtesy of Massimo, that sets up the medieval gavotte of “La Danza”, full of petulant reed work and a vigorous main vocal theme that has genius stamped all over it, another high point. ”Ginevra” does not release off the accelerator, the mood getting progressively tighter until a delicate flute ushers in another breathless vocal segment, with sultry piano melancholia as a backdrop, elevating this piece to heavenly heights with a spirited wah-wah guitar exit. “Grande Ombre Gentile” is keyboardist Romeo Bollea’s cameo, offering up some funky organ, odd piano winks and a little dissonance that hints to the Gentle Giant (the title is a loose translation!). Good idea, because the next piece is the pearl of the recording, the drop-dead beautiful “Pastelli”, a melodic hook so gigantic, it may be a musical ring around Saturn! Passionate vocals, delicate pastels of various instrumental colorings and a chorus similar to “The World became the World” by PFM. Obviously, understanding the language improves the impact but the melody is just too close to perfection, highlighted by a bombastic lead guitar solo that takes this straight to the stars. Prog heaven as our Erik would say! The disc closes out with the 22 minute grand epic “Il Regno”, an 8 part suite that has all the usual prog suspects, each smilingly guilty as charged, totally absorbed in squeezing out all kinds of feelings from their instruments (a fluttering and strident synth solo sets the early tone), some lavish mellotron/guitar melodies, meshing with Mau’s patented (and unique to CAP) Midi Wind fanfare-like trumpet sound, corkscrewing the theme into a crescendo of agony and “passione”. A breezy little jazzy ditty, with slinky guitars and slippery synths keeps the tension going unabated, opening the door for another return of the main recurring melody with an ever increasingly grandiloquent delivery. The pressure is mounting just like Pompeii’s volcanic Vesuvius, ready to erupt with uncontrolled fury. The constant contrast between soft melodies and booming crescendos really is beguiling, with Mercandino’s continued brilliance on vocals an ongoing highlight. The kindergarten child choir returns again, with some repeated “Uh-la-lah”, weaving the by-now familiar theme to its rightful finale, curtsying with an ultimate manic synth/guitar explosion. They have been around for 30 years and have 3 studio albums. They are the paragon prog- loving amateur fans. For that precious asset alone, they are deserving of the loftiest praise. Cinque Stelle. Posted Wednesday, January 23, 2008, 21:31 EST |
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Andrea Cortese
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Posted: January 24 2008 at 05:58 | |||
Well, that album is becoming of a cult status on this site. Many passionate reviews in the recent weeks.
All happened and improved after my low rating, as I see...
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andrea
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Posted: January 24 2008 at 06:52 | |||
I’m a little bit surprised that they are not on PA... Anyway you are a SC and you can add them... Useful links: http://www.myspace.com/corteaulica http://www.jaforte.it/corteaulica/ In my opinion Ypsilon (another project featurning Corte Aulica’s bassist Emanuele Jaforte) could be added too... http://www.myspace.com/ypsilon3 http://www.jaforte.it/ypsilon/ By the way, please try to check the bands on the list in this thread: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=45526 |
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Andrea Cortese
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Posted: January 24 2008 at 17:28 | |||
^^^
Yes, but what kind of genre of prog does they play? Reading their bio their most important reference is canterbury sound mixed with symphonic. Does it's true? Could I add them to ISP/RPI?
If not, we could ask to the other competent team.
Thanks for that huge list. I will check each name there.
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micky
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Posted: January 24 2008 at 19:26 | |||
yes Andrea P has done us ...especially me who is obviously far removed from the scene... a great service but showing us that now...as then that Italy has a vibrant and large, healthy prog scene there. I can count the modern CD's I have on one hand since I have always been a fan of the 'vintage' sound... espcially in regards to guitar and keyboards. But thanks to these sites I can still explore without putting myself in the f**king poorhouse As far as where to add these groups.... we are going to have that discussion.. involving those who still care in the near future. This site obviously is in no hurry to facilitate the addition of bands and make our job any easier so I am not going to put my ass.. or any of yours on the line adding bands that might displease those who just follow what we do in passing.. if at all. Let's just get our heads around the 70+ bands Andrea P has brought up. Once we, especially myself, have an idea of the sounds.. and styles of these groups. We can then decide what to do. |
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micky
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Posted: January 24 2008 at 19:35 | |||
it has.. and there have been and I think those reviews speak volumes about it. Philippe and Hugues are not exactly 'fanboys' of the scene there. But that album is not for everyone.. what album is Andrea I listened... again ... to Sulle Corde di Aries this evening and thought about your post Andrea. The scene you described there... is precisely the place I am taken to in a way by a track like Sequenze e Frequenze. Especially those last 6 or 7 minutes. Completely divine... heavenly....celestial... transcendental... almost trance like. Whatever It is precisely the kind of music that takes you to places such as you were. Edited by micky - January 24 2008 at 19:38 |
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andrea
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Posted: January 25 2008 at 00:57 | |||
Well, check these cover bands... I Cancelli della Memoria (featuring some original members of Battiato’s 70’s group): http://www.myspace.com/cancellidellamemoria Sulle Corde di Aries: http://www.myspace.com/sullecordediariescoverband |
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micky
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Posted: January 25 2008 at 01:00 | |||
ditching TMV.. I'll listen to that later hahahha checking these out.. |
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micky
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Posted: January 25 2008 at 01:25 | |||
great Pollution covers... would love to hear more from I Cancelli della Memoria.
oh btw... Raff told me Pooh is playing in Milan in April... going to try to make it to that show |
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Andrea Cortese
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Posted: January 25 2008 at 06:47 | |||
I have just edited my review on Sulle Corde... well 3 is the max I can do...
Battiato's third album is one of the most “difficult” records ever released in Italy. As always the artist pulls his music near the limits that separate a pure intellectual speculation from modern music. At the risk to be boring, risk he did not manage to avoid with Sulle Corde di Aries, in my humble opinion. This is due, mainly, to the long opener titled “Sequenze e Frequenze” (no transaltion needed) which is on about 16,22 minutes of continuous repetition of a same prog-electronic theme plus sparse vocals and choruses. Suggestive, I admit it, but not exactly my cup of tea. He seems to be an intruder in all the classic italian prog crew of the seventies. Posted Wednesday, October 04, 2006 | Review Permalink |
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micky
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Posted: January 25 2008 at 07:07 | |||
YEAH!!!! hahhahaha. We'll take the extra stars where we can get them. I have been tempted to give it the 5th myself but can't quite call it essential for the forum just because the album knocked me sideways.
and I have a suggestion for trying to digest the opener Andrea... a glass of your favorite wine... a darkened room.. maybe a candle or two.. and listening to it with headphones... and let it take you away |
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