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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 20 2008 at 11:58
^ well me likes your opinoin. LOL  Never been sold on their prog quotient.. but hey.... they fooled someone enough to add them.. so we all are happy under the big tent that is PA's hahahhaha
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 20 2008 at 12:27
I think it would be fairly safe to say they sit somewhere between the standard definitions of modern prog and alt rock.  It does surprise me that they haven't transformed their critical success into more of a commercial breakthrough, especially given the popularity of other kinda-prog-sorta-alt-rock bands like Muse.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 20 2008 at 12:27
Lol, and what a tent this is!!:)Tongue
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 21 2008 at 13:48
Originally posted by Real Paradox Real Paradox wrote:

I realy think Porcupine tree is more in the category of Alternative Rock , that of Prog...but of course thats my opinion....


My opinion too.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 21 2008 at 14:08
Originally posted by Mousoleum Mousoleum wrote:

Shhh.... let's keep this a secret. God know what will happen if Radiohead and Muse fans discover Porcupine Tree. 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 21 2008 at 15:28
Originally posted by Phil�as Phil�as wrote:

Originally posted by Real Paradox Real Paradox wrote:

I realy think Porcupine tree is more in the category of Alternative Rock , that of Prog...but of course thats my opinion....


My opinion too.


Which is a reason to find it rather surprising that it is such a popular band here at a site devoted to so-called prog for so-called progheads.

I find it rather more surprising that Porcupine Tree is so very popular amongst progressive music aficionados than it not being that popular amongst the general, more mainstream music community.  As has been noted, it's one of the most popular modern bands at this site and gets a great deal of attention.  Fear of a Blank Planet is the top-rated album of 2007 at this site, has a considerable lead in the non-collab top 2007 albums, and will probably be the top Collab album of 2007.  Deadwing was the collaborator's top album for 2005.

Perhaps they more obviously catered to a Prog audience before and people have remained loyal, or maybe it's acted as something of a gateway band for many (for people who don't know a lot of Prog and may have, after discovering this site, subsequently ventured into more adventurous and esoteric territory).

Why is PT as popular amongst die-hard progheads as it is?  Is it an easier band to get into for those into classic prog than most modern progressive bands?  OF course it's going to have more appeal to people into, say, Progressive Metal than a band such as Rational Diet or whatever, and while the guys from PT aren't that young, perhaps the music has more youthful appeal than, say, Robert Wyatt (whose latest is quite poppy, but in a mature way).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 22 2008 at 03:33
Simply put, they aren't this thread is the proof that most on this site find the band pretty average.

I like PT, but I don't think they are that special. If you compare them to alternative rock bands though, they rock!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 22 2008 at 09:29
Originally posted by MusicalSalmacis MusicalSalmacis wrote:

Simply put, they aren't this thread is the proof that most on this site find the band pretty average.

I like PT, but I don't think they are that special. If you compare them to alternative rock bands though, they rock!
Compare them to The Strokes or Radiohead.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 22 2008 at 09:36
I liked Deadwing when I was first majorly getting into Prog, but now it does nothing for me.  I've not even heard Fear of a Blank Planet, except for Anaesthetise and like most people posting in this thread, I find them quite average in terms of prog.  However, they're a great alternative rock band and they ave a lot of talent, so they're not average in that context.

By the way, be nice to the newcomer, he may have said something that you disagree with, but that is no reason to call him names.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 22 2008 at 10:52
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

But of course with me they CAN'T be the new DT....Tongue
 
And let's hope there is never another one. One is quite enough.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 22 2008 at 11:12
Originally posted by StyLaZyn StyLaZyn wrote:

Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

But of course with me they CAN'T be the new DT....Tongue
 
And let's hope there is never another one. One is quite enough.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 22 2008 at 14:20
Well, they found one more in me.  I finally went out and bought some PT when I was in Paris.  Picked up FOABP.  It's good, very good.
 
But to be honest from the gushing praise they get I have to admit being somewhat underwhelmed...maybe I started with the wrong album?
 
The solo by Lifeson is a great touch though!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 22 2008 at 14:26
Originally posted by Era V. Era V. wrote:

Well, they found one more in me.  I finally went out and bought some PT when I was in Paris.  Picked up FOABP.  It's good, very good.
 
But to be honest from the gushing praise they get I have to admit being somewhat underwhelmed...maybe I started with the wrong album?
 
The solo by Lifeson is a great touch though!



hahahha... the praise doesn't match the goods IMO.... they are a good group without a doubt... but I think you started with the wrong album...give them another chance. That album is not what it is cracked up to be.

try In Absentia for the modern version

or any of the early ones ..  like The Sky Moves Sideways or my favorite Signify
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 22 2008 at 14:58
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

^ well me likes your opinoin. LOL  Never been sold on their prog quotient.. but hey.... they fooled someone enough to add them.. so we all are happy under the big tent that is PA's hahahhaha
 
Wilson has often played down their Prog credentials so I don't think he'd argue with you there.
 
So maybe that's why Abigail's Ghost have never made it for inclusion here when they are Porcupine Tree in all but name.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 22 2008 at 15:02
Originally posted by Nightfly Nightfly wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

^ well me likes your opinoin. LOL  Never been sold on their prog quotient.. but hey.... they fooled someone enough to add them.. so we all are happy under the big tent that is PA's hahahhaha
 
Wilson has often played down their Prog credentials so I don't think he'd argue with you there.
 



actually .. he didn't when he was a visiting member here...  LOL Was hoping he would.. not every day you get into a flame war with a renouned 'prog' artist.  So much for livening up the forum. OuchLOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 22 2008 at 15:05
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by Nightfly Nightfly wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

^ well me likes your opinoin. LOL  Never been sold on their prog quotient.. but hey.... they fooled someone enough to add them.. so we all are happy under the big tent that is PA's hahahhaha
 
Wilson has often played down their Prog credentials so I don't think he'd argue with you there.
 



actually .. he didn't when he was a visiting member here...  LOL Was hoping he would.. not every day you get into a flame war with a renouned 'prog' artist.  So much for livening up the forum. OuchLOL
 
LOL
 
 
I hadn't realised he'd been here, how long ago was that?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 22 2008 at 15:06
not sure to be honest.... I think his screen name was 'swilson'
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 22 2008 at 17:05
Originally posted by MusicalSalmacis MusicalSalmacis wrote:

Simply put, they aren't this thread is the proof that most on this site find the band pretty average.

 
Oh yeah? ... Well... let's wait for the announcement of prog-album of the year by PA collaborators and let's see how un-popular they are....Or is it that we say one thing (PT are average) and think another? (PT rule!)
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 23 2008 at 06:31
Incidentally there's a short interview with Wilson on the front page of www.metalireland.com for those interested.  It deals only with his recollections of recording Opeth's Blackwater Park.
 
It is short like I said, but a good read...he comes across well.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 23 2008 at 16:24
Originally posted by Nightfly Nightfly wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by Nightfly Nightfly wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

^ well me likes your opinoin. LOL  Never been sold on their prog quotient.. but hey.... they fooled someone enough to add them.. so we all are happy under the big tent that is PA's hahahhaha

 

Wilson has often played down their Prog credentials so I don't think he'd argue with you there.

 

actually .. he didn't when he was a visiting member here...  LOL Was hoping he would.. not every day you get into a flame war with a renouned 'prog' artist.  So much for livening up the forum. OuchLOL

 

LOL

 

 

I hadn't realised he'd been here, how long ago was that?


He registered in August 2006. swilson is his username and he has posted more or less 25 times. A fan, moi?

Incidentally, it was on this forum he first spilled out the beans about Anesthetize. He never told the name of it but wrote that there would be a 17 minute long beast of a song on the next record. Anesthetize was unofficially called "The Beast" for the next four or five months over at the PT Forum

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