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bizarro laplace
Forum Senior Member Joined: January 03 2008 Location: Underwater Status: Offline Points: 110 |
Posted: January 17 2008 at 12:08 | |
Oh, well my listening habits have calmed down, but I can forgive rock if it's unconventional, cute and noisy (and it's "Punch-up at a Wedding" on Hail to the Thief which really bores me rigid). Melt-Banana happen to have all three. =)
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Ghandi 2
Forum Senior Member Joined: February 17 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1494 |
Posted: January 17 2008 at 19:33 | |
Bleh, cute.
I agree that Punch up at a Wedding is extremely boring. I think I've listened to it all the way through maybe 3 times, I have no idea why they included it at all.
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Apsalar
Forum Senior Member Joined: June 06 2006 Location: gansu Status: Offline Points: 2888 |
Posted: January 17 2008 at 20:47 | |
H'm bores you rigid, been a while since I have felt like that, might have to check it out, hopefully it will settle the nerves.
Re: Melt-Banana. Listened through Scratch Or Stitch as of last night. Cute would be one word, especially the hello kitty vocals; I'm not sure why I'm convinced this is how kitty would sound if she joined a band but it was the first thought entering my mind. Certainly noisy, but conventionally unconventional. I'm going to delve further into their catalogue and see what interest I can spark. I see where you are coming from paralleling the Boredoms early work, unfortunately I do not see their early works as prog, it wasn't until albums like Vision Creation Newsun they brought out the prog (well that is my view on their career). I noticed they are included on progressive ears: "Melt Banana Similar the the Ruins - heavy zuehl-punk-prog-metal insanity" |
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rileydog22
Forum Senior Member Joined: August 24 2005 Location: New Jersey Status: Offline Points: 8844 |
Posted: January 17 2008 at 21:05 | |
I watched a couple of Melt Banana videos on youtube, and now my brain hurts. I'll leave the decision on whether or not they get in to you guys, as I've never liked things that deep into the punk domain.
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Jshutt64
Forum Senior Member Joined: January 06 2008 Location: California, USA Status: Offline Points: 116 |
Posted: January 17 2008 at 21:36 | |
Ok guys...I'm pretty new to RIO, so, can I get some recommendations on where it would be best for me to start off?
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rileydog22
Forum Senior Member Joined: August 24 2005 Location: New Jersey Status: Offline Points: 8844 |
Posted: January 17 2008 at 21:43 | |
I would recommend that you start out with Samla Mammas Manna's Maltid or Klossa Knapitatet, whichever is easiest to get. If you aren't into quirky jazz-rock, you could try any of Univers Zero's first three albums to hear their "chamber prog" approach, which uses mostly classical instruments to produce rock music. Also, check out anything by the great Henry Cow. All of their albums are good, but Western Culture would perhaps be the best starting place.
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Leningrad
Forum Senior Member Joined: August 15 2006 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 7991 |
Posted: January 18 2008 at 00:09 | |
Henry Cow is the band that got me in to RIO and avant-garde music in general. Unrest is where I started and it's one of my favorite albums. Just be sure to remain open minded. |
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Bj-1
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: June 04 2005 Location: No(r)Way Status: Offline Points: 31446 |
Posted: January 18 2008 at 02:03 | |
I think Legend is their most accessible, but all their albums are excellent indeed. Stormy Six's L'Apprendista album is another fantastic RIO album, heavily reminiscent to Gentle Giant at times, and farly accessible as well. Univers Zero might be a thougher band to appreciate, but you could always give their debut (1313) a try, and If you like that one check out their four albums after that one. Present are also a recommended band to check out, although, like UZ, they are fairly darker and more sinister than most RIO but still amazing.
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RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on!
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avestin
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 18 2005 Status: Offline Points: 12625 |
Posted: January 18 2008 at 17:46 | |
For those who didn't see the posting by Sean McFee, organizer of the FMPM event in Montreal here it is:
Hello,
Belgian chamber rock group and original Rock in Opposition member Univers Zero will headline the Sunday portion of FMPM 2008. Formed in the mid-1970s by drummer and leader Daniel Denis, Univers Zero has undergone several transformations during its existence, from dark acoustic chamber music inspired by B�la Bart�k and H.P. Lovecraft, to a more electronic sound with use of synthesizers in the 1980s, and finally a more melodic, refined chamber-rock for the new Millennium. The ten CD releases that catalogue these three periods are acclaimed by followers of new music and Univers Zero have influenced countless other groups being practically the blueprint for chamber-rock. After avoiding live performance for decades, the modern incarnation of Univers Zero embraced it, with powerful appearances at festivals in Europe and a headlining performance at NEARFest 2004. Their first ever live album was released on Cuneiform Records in 2006, and their first album "1313" is to be reissued by Cuneiform in mid-2008. The current line-up of Univers Zero features Daniel Denis (drums), Michel Berckmans (woodwinds), Andy Kirk (keyboards and guitar), Martin Lauwers (violin), Eric Plantain (bass), and Kurt Bud� (clarinet, sax). Univers Zero is currently working on a new studio album. More information about Univers Zero: http://www.univers-zero.com/ The third edition of the FMPM takes place September 13 and 14, 2008. For more information about the FMPM please visit our web-site at www.fmpm.net Regards, Sean Edited by avestin - January 18 2008 at 17:46 |
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listennow801
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: January 29 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1819 |
Posted: January 18 2008 at 20:44 | |
I would HIGHLY recommend Albert Marcoeur - either the eponymous first album, or Armes et Cycles.
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Ratings of Lady Gnosis: http://www.gnosis2000.net/raterclaire.shtml |
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Apsalar
Forum Senior Member Joined: June 06 2006 Location: gansu Status: Offline Points: 2888 |
Posted: January 18 2008 at 21:53 | |
Could someone please tell me a little more 'bout this album:
Roof - Untraceable Cigar Has Tom Cora on Cello. |
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listennow801
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: January 29 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1819 |
Posted: January 18 2008 at 21:58 | |
Very improv happy. i can send you samples sometime this wkend -
[I have lots and lots of Cora/related if there are any other titles you're curious about.
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Ratings of Lady Gnosis: http://www.gnosis2000.net/raterclaire.shtml |
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Apsalar
Forum Senior Member Joined: June 06 2006 Location: gansu Status: Offline Points: 2888 |
Posted: January 19 2008 at 18:53 | |
^^^ thanks Cleo. improv happy sounds like my thing. I was intrigued by a cello thread on another forum, where people were liking this.
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avestin
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 18 2005 Status: Offline Points: 12625 |
Posted: January 20 2008 at 00:19 | |
I think you'll find the next link interesting, not to mention the whole website:
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avestin
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 18 2005 Status: Offline Points: 12625 |
Posted: January 20 2008 at 00:54 | |
And also look at that:
Another website that will interest some people here:
Deep Freeze Mice & related.
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avestin
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 18 2005 Status: Offline Points: 12625 |
Posted: January 20 2008 at 22:54 | |
And to add to these, here are interesting articles in Perfect Sound Forever; even though they are a few years old, they're still of interest and value:
Absolute Zero
The return of maximalist music Amon Duul
Krautrock's most hated band Magma
Greetings from Kobaia Bablicon
Improv power trio Mr. Bungle
Unclassifiable, ever-evolving Peter Brötzmann
Dying Like A Dog Can
Godparents of "indie" avant-garde? Neu!
Music for mind and pants The Cardiacs
Complex punks thrive Captain Beefheart
Reviews of (almost) all CB releases The Plastic People of the Universe
Eurock's greatest band Marc Ribot & Nels Cline
Two avant guitar gawds Klaus Schulze
70's kosmische heaven Robert Fripp
Truly a guitar gawd? Ganelin Trio
Year Zero in the Iron Curtain Geraldine Fibbers
California tuffy Soft Machine
Their pataphysical beginnings Keiji Haino
Secrets of the Socerer Keiji Haino
1996- His Magical Year Henry Cow
Giving art rock a good name? Stockhausen
Holger Czukay toasts his former teacher Sun Ra
John Szwed talks about his bio of Ra Sun Ra
His Intergalactic Harmonies The Incredible String Band
Robin and Mike's excellent adventure Van Der Graaf Generator
Quintessential prog? |
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Apsalar
Forum Senior Member Joined: June 06 2006 Location: gansu Status: Offline Points: 2888 |
Posted: January 21 2008 at 00:09 | |
Thanks for those links Assaf. I have read some before, but have bookmarked the others I'm interested in; should be a good read.
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chamberry
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 24 2005 Location: Puerto Rico Status: Offline Points: 9008 |
Posted: January 21 2008 at 14:28 | |
Indeed. I'll check them out as well. Thanks.
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avestin
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 18 2005 Status: Offline Points: 12625 |
Posted: January 22 2008 at 15:46 | |
A message from Moon June Records:
MoonJune Records announces the first studio album of the funambolic Belgians
THE WRONG OBJECT "Stories From The Shed" http://www.moonjune.com/MJR018.htm (check above link for audio clip and more info) Belgian heavy avant-prog-jazz-rock combo The Wrong Object returns with a brand new studio release of their trademark instrumentation and sonic landscapes. Laden with a full load of heavy and volcanic Frippesque tinted guitar riffs, extravagant jazz themes and electronic sounds, this CD marks a return to the rockier and densely overdriven stance that characterized the band's earlier productions. The sheer sonic texture of this album is driven by a combination of tight progrock sequences alternating with more open, freely improvised material. This explosive package consists of a solid, pulsing rhythm section capable of performing with versatility in any situation, aggressive guitar riffs and solos, unusual guitar-synth soundscapes, and fuzz bass guitar laced with a fiery horn duet. With influences ranging from Zappa's whimsical complexities to Squarepusher's glitchy electronics, "Stories from the Shed" will surprise prog rock fans and modern jazz aficcionados alike with its genre-defying compositions, eclectic jam improvisations and intricate arrangements. Eclectic band for fans of Frank Zappa, Soft Machine, Primus, King Crimson, Nucleus, Praxis, Aka Moon, Universe Zero and jazz-oriented jam-band scene. "The Wrong Object has built a reputation for its astute interpretation of the music of Frank Zappa, but its members are strong and idiosyncratic composers in their own right. They're also intrepid improvisers who combine an appreciation of the jazz vernacular with a more aggressive rock stance." — All About Jazz, USA "An amazing band performing surprisingly cohesive set of structured Zappaesque improv-jazz-avant-prog-rock. Truly on fire! — Exposé Magazine, USA Check their related release Elton Dean & The Wrong Object “The Unbelievable Truth”
Blending psychedelic jazz with modern rock sensibilities, the music of The Wrong Object is influenced by a vast array of artists ranging from Canterbury Scene prog-jazz-rock à la Soft Machine, Nucleus and Gong to Béla Bartok, Aka Moon, Charlie Mingus and Frank Zappa. While their repertoire contains mainly original compositions, they also play a special set of Zappa covers on demand. Since its creation in early 2002, The Wrong Object has played almost eighty concerts in various venues ranging from small pubs to big festivals. Some of them were augmented by guest performances by the likes of Ed Mann (of Frank Zappa hall of fame), Elton Dean (legendary Soft Machine and British jazz icon), Harry Beckett (British jazz legend), Annie Whitehead (who often plays and records with Robert Wyatt), Alex Maguire (of Hatfield & The North), Robin Verheyen, Marc Mangen, Domguè, Marco Maurizi, Nicolas Ankoudinoff, Clementine Gasser, Frogg Café, Jaap Blonk, and pataphysician-poet-vocalist Andrew Norris, whose work with the band culminated in a show held at the Galerie 2016 in Brussels on the occasion of Serge Vandercam's 79th birthday. After a successful mini-tour of the UK, they performed at the 2004 “Zappanale” festival where they played a special gig featuring Zappa's legendary percussionist Ed Mann, with whom they also hope to play a few more dates soon. The Wrong Object have since then played in many different countries (including England, Germany, France, The Netherlands, Czech Republic, , Slovakia, Luxembourg and even in their own country Belgium) and their live recordings have been favorably reviewed and aired by radio stations across the globe. They will continue to perform in pubs, clubs and theaters next year and will play Summer festivals abroad. Their side projects “Elton Dean Meets The Wrong Object” and “The Wrong Object feat. Annie Whitehead and Harry Beckett” were documented by two CD releases issued by Moonjune Records and Voiceprint. “Storied From The Shed”, being released on MoonJune records in February 2008, is the band’s first studio album. |
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laplace
Prog Reviewer Joined: October 06 2005 Location: popupControl(); Status: Offline Points: 7606 |
Posted: January 23 2008 at 12:52 | |
Have their been many other CDs in this discipline this year? I don't want to be scrabbling to hear everything next December in a repeat performance of this year so maybe I'll be partially relying on this thread to keep me informed. ;)
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