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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2007 at 09:15
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Actually i am really looking forward to listen to more Battiato albums, and buy some
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2007 at 17:13
Originally posted by memowakeman memowakeman wrote:

Actually i am really looking forward to listen to more Battiato albums, and buy some


oh man.... it has become a bit of a passion..within a passion for me..

love those albums... even the ones I really shouldn't love  LOL

have some clappies Guillermo

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2007 at 17:19
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by memowakeman memowakeman wrote:

Actually i am really looking forward to listen to more Battiato albums, and buy some


oh man.... it has become a bit of a passion..within a passion for me..

love those albums... even the ones I really shouldn't love  LOL

have some clappies Guillermo

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2007 at 17:22
Originally posted by Ricochet Ricochet wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by memowakeman memowakeman wrote:

Actually i am really looking forward to listen to more Battiato albums, and buy some


oh man.... it has become a bit of a passion..within a passion for me..

love those albums... even the ones I really shouldn't love  LOL

have some clappies Guillermo

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ClapClap from me too...I like Battiato as an artist...


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2007 at 17:31
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by Ricochet Ricochet wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by memowakeman memowakeman wrote:

Actually i am really looking forward to listen to more Battiato albums, and buy some


oh man.... it has become a bit of a passion..within a passion for me..

love those albums... even the ones I really shouldn't love  LOL

have some clappies Guillermo

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2007 at 17:35
Originally posted by memowakeman memowakeman wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by Ricochet Ricochet wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by memowakeman memowakeman wrote:

Actually i am really looking forward to listen to more Battiato albums, and buy some


oh man.... it has become a bit of a passion..within a passion for me..

love those albums... even the ones I really shouldn't love  LOL

have some clappies Guillermo

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2007 at 19:43
I was listening to Labyrinth again today...

great band and great album...Approve
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 27 2007 at 22:08
Hey guys, read to this awesome review, thanks to Finnforest Clap, i really concour with him, though i am not prepared to write my own review of Melos
 
CERVELLO — Melos
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5%20stars Challenging music from that most sublime of genres.

One of the most elegantly complex and fully realized of the “difficult” Italian classics, Melos is for fans of the Osanna, Balletto di Bronzi, RRR, and Semiramis styles. I have a hunch that fans of Crimson, VDGG, and Gentle Giant will also approve. It will probably be less appreciated by fans of the gentler and more accessible bands like Celeste and Locanda delle Fate. The musical approach and the sound are very sophisticated and unique. A combination of primarily guitars, flutes and saxes are tightly woven into a very dense, often dark, unsettling, and just plain eerie feel. Some sources say there are no (or very little) keyboards used to create this sound palette which is certainly unusual. Sometimes I think I hear some but I can’t be sure the way the other instruments are employed. It took me many plays to really get past the rather exhausting outer shell and discover the melodies hiding inside and now I just cannot get enough of this excellent material. This band from Naples was related to the Osanna band via the Rustici brothers, the younger one in Cervello was another example of how the very young were leaders in the Italian scene back then. Corrado Rustici was but a teenager when the band recorded Melos in Milan back in 1973. While Osanna’s big album “Palepoli” generally gets the most attention my personal view is that “Melos” is a better album. While not as trippy as the wildly freaky “Palepoli” I feel that Melos is more overtly musical and more genuinely satisfying in the long run.

Juan at ItalianProg describes the Cervello sound like this: “There is great deal of excellent acoustic guitar work and mellotron-like sounds created by the saxophones. The vocals coupled with the acoustic guitar and flutes hypnotize the listener into a technical yet fluid atmosphere so the music then breaks into a frenzy full of sax and adventurous guitar playing. The tempo and mood change from calm and melodic to violent and bizarre (interweaving between scales). No keyboards present, but they are not needed due to the "cerebral" arrangements these musicians have created for us on this album.”[Juan Carlos Lopez] In another great review Warren Nelson sums up the sound perfectly: “…with soaring and complex melodies, compelling and angular instrumental passages culminating in some aggressive individual performances, all weaved together in a tapestry of beautiful and emotional musical syncopation. One of the few Italian prog releases without a prominent keyboard arsenal, the rich sound of this band is achieved with powerful drumming, multiple woodwinds, and intelligent scaler runs on guitar. But not least of all are the typically emotionally powerful vocals. Dynamic change-ups and exquisite group interaction complete another example of one of the finest Italian progressive albums you will ever hear.”[Warren Nelson]

My own take on the specific tracks: “Canto Del Capro” begins with layers of flutes over what sounds like a foghorn and cymbal splashes moving left to right in the stereo spectrum. Soon an acoustic guitar precedes delightfully freaky operatic style vocals like only the Italians can do. A thrilling opening. Suddenly the drums kick in and you think it might be “normal” for a bit but soon these ungodly compressed vocals rattle your eardrums. Strange acoustic and electric guitar flares round out the rest of this unsettling start. “Trittico” is an enchanting initially with sentimental flute melody, acoustic and vocal. Eventually a crazy sax and percussion crash the party for a bit before the soft opening style returns with additional guitar noodlings. After a brief fade the end section is a bizarre cacophony of choral voices. My one complaint is wishing the bass were a bit more clear and upfront, sometimes it is distant and muddy but it’s a minor nitpick. “Euterpe” begins with acoustic and flutes again in a warm and inviting mood. This eventually leads into the full band jamming with a real e-guitar and saxophone workout. “Scinsicne” begins with guitar that sounds like it came from an outtake of “Astronomy Domine!” In comes great flute and bass interplay and then vocals which are another strong point on this album. As the band comes on full the saxes jump into the fray and the sound gets brutal. At 3:48 is one of my favorite parts of the album, these mutant bizarre sounds and drums that mimic some sinister funeral dirge. This is followed by a maniacal e-guitar solo. “Melos” features great flute and sax workouts again with another Rustici axe thrashing at the end. “Galassia” is a feast of inventive vocal interludes over beautifully played acoustic guitars. Dabbles of flute precede a full blown e-guitar freakout challenged by pursuing sax and percussion attacks. You’ll need a shower after this track. “Affresco” is a rather traditional sounding closer piece, very short and there just to bring you gently back to Earth after your cerebral pummeling.

I guess the reason I light up the magic star 5 would be this: Even when listening to most good albums it is evident that I am doing just that. I’m listening to a collection of songs that are just too structured and I know what is coming. They might light up my pleasure center and my brain says “oh that’s a good song, let me listen to more of the same!” Melos does not allow me to stagnate. It’s more like eavesdropping on someone’s thoughts (presented musically) than listening to the next “killer song, dude.” Their thoughts or perhaps their nightmares in this case with everything being so strange, the album starts and it’s like this bizarre trip occurs. Even some of my favorite albums are relatively predictable but not Melos. With each play I still wonder what the hell is going on. It still pushes my buttons and challenges me, my definition of a genuinely progressive album. That’s not the only way an album can get 5 stars from me but it is one way.

This is one of the Italian albums you hear people describe as “harsh” and you might hate it the first several times you listen. Don’t get discouraged. Put it away and spin it every other month….like many of the best prog albums you may end up loving it a year from now. That’s how it was for me-a real grower. But while many of us are thrilled by this album it is not universally loved in the way that PFM is. It’s rather confrontational sonic style does have its detractors so read plenty of reviews before you take the plunge. In my book this is essential for Italian fans and recommended for fans of stuff like “Red” era Crimson. Try to find the Japanese mini-lp sleeve edition which features decent sound and a high quality reproduction of the cool artwork. I love the cover of this album….fantastic stuff!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 27 2007 at 22:53
As always, great review James Clap  I always seem to get excited when I see an RPI review on the homepageBig%20smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2008 at 13:22
a new album for AINUR and it's titled "Children of Hurin".
 
AINUR%20-%20Children%20of%20Hurin%20CD
 
 
 
 
hmmm...
 
an italian prog team is lacking........
 
do you want to make us happy and active?
 
Then give us the RPI status!!WinkLOL
 
 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2008 at 13:49
Well you are right, we had forgotten this thread, recently the eclectic team added Luca Sherani, MikeEnRegalia did a great review of the album which i find very interesting, you may like it Andrea.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2008 at 16:57
Well, yes. To be honest what I saw recently is that the interest in RPI is still very high and living! No one really needs me!CryWink
 
I've seen also some interesting new entries as Luca Sherani and Nosound. Very good, I believe. Nowadays I'm a little bit far from RPI purchases 'cause of my increasing interest in YUGO-ROCK and in PROG-ANDALUZ (Mezquita's coming...).
 
BTW, I'm intrigued in the Ainur's follow up... who knows? Did they surpass the debut? (that's what I think based on the first comments I've read).


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2008 at 17:47
Originally posted by Andrea Cortese Andrea Cortese wrote:

Well, yes. To be honest what I saw recently is that the interest in RPI is still very high and living! No one really needs me!CryWink
 
I've seen also some interesting new entries as Luca Sherani and Nosound. Very good, I believe. Nowadays I'm a little bit far from RPI purchases 'cause of my increasing interest in YUGO-ROCK and in PROG-ANDALUZ (Mezquita's coming...).
 
BTW, I'm intrigued in the Ainur's follow up... who knows? Did they surpass the debut? (that's what I think based on the first comments I've read).


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oh you'll love Mezquita....  I do love me some Prog Andaluz Clap




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2008 at 17:52
Originally posted by Andrea Cortese Andrea Cortese wrote:

 
 
 
 
hmmm...
 
an italian prog team is lacking........
 
do you want to make us happy and active?
 
Then give us the RPI status!!WinkLOL
 
 


call it a frickin 3 month vacation hahhaha

would be nice.....but I'm sure other more pressing things hold their attention than us smucks. LOL


That Ainur albums sounds good .... need to put that on my list. Clap
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Here are my favourite prog bands / artists from Italy (I don't care much about the cheesy italian symphonic prog scene)
 
Franco Leprino
Telaio Magnetico
Picchio dal Pozzo
Dedalus
Albergo Intergalattico spaziale
Goblin
Futuro Antico
Franco Falsini


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2008 at 19:33
cheesy.... cheesy...  hahhahah... that's the Philippe we all know and love...




LOL well... I'm making this the Philippe appreciation thread here for a bit...

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1%20stars The pinnacle of Jethro Tull's crappy pop folk production! This album is a "b*****dization" of authentic folk music. It only features cheesy pop ballads for Christmas days. The snobbish accent of Ian Anderson has never been so painful. The self title track is a conventional, almost puritan "Christian" folk ballad. Same remark for "Cold Wind Valhalla" with its very cheap atmosphere. "Black Satin Dancer" is a symphonic, pseudo neo classical song: one more time it's too naive and gentle. No surprise with the rest of the album. For a better appreciation of prog folk tapestries of sound I advise listeners to go on the medieval, pagan inflected and acid folk side of Teutonic bands: notably Parzival and Ougenweide. This band really need to re-learn the basics before serving the mass with common mediocrity. Musically speaking the band died after his original bluesy folk fusion (this was / stand up)






I loved the early albums and can dig what you're saying...LOL

anyhow...I know you don't read my reviews.. of all that cheesy sh*t.. but I mentioned you in a review of mine.  You...totally off the wall.. let me to one of my greatest prog 'finds'.  Your comment.. always intriqued me.. and let me to really explore his albums. You said once in a thread ..some thread sometime back...that you found Franco Battiato's albums boring.  Which ones have you heard by chance. 




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2008 at 19:52

^ I've notably heard fetus and Pollution that I consider as difficult listenings but not in an interesting way...moreover it's old dated. I prefer the 70's psychedelic freak out sound of other Italians (a few of them are mentionned above). I reiterate, Jethro Tull's work after their two first is without interest for those who like adventurous type of music. 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2008 at 20:03
have you tried Clic or ...god.. and album I adore Sulle Corde di Aries. 

He's a fascinating artist Philippe...  he changed styles ...seemingly after every album or two. Those two might be the ones..with your interests and tastes.. that you might enjoy.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2008 at 20:07
I will try to listen to these two albums and give you my opinion, thanks.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2008 at 20:09
Originally posted by philippe philippe wrote:

I will try to listen to these two albums and give you my opinion, thanks.


I'll be pleased as punch if you like them... they are great albums.. let me know if you can find them..and ...errr... let me know if you can't.  LOL
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