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Era V. ![]() Forum Groupie ![]() Joined: November 17 2007 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 97 |
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I think Gojira are a great band. Very progressive rhythms used and a very obvious slant towards being creative and fashion their very own sound which they have done very succesfully.
Saw them in Belgium two years ago and was highly, highly impressed with the show. Remembrance is an unbelievable track to see live. |
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cookieacquired ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 23 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 911 |
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oooo I love Gojira
actually that's a bit of a fallacy, as I've only heard Mars to Sirius (which is still amazing)
but it's so good I might pick up on Mike's suggestion to try the link
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MikeEnRegalia ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 21555 |
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^ check out The Link, it's much more quirky: http://www.emusic.com/album/Gojira-The-Link-MP3-Download/11078264.html
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el böthy ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: April 27 2005 Location: Argentina Status: Offline Points: 6336 |
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Good band, From Mars to Sirius is quite good, but a bit too long for my taste. I too dont find them Prog, but I do find them good
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"You want me to play what, Robert?"
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reality ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 29 2006 Status: Offline Points: 318 |
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Good movie, I like Gojira 1984!
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Novalis ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 15 2007 Location: New Zealand Status: Offline Points: 338 |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jf0HDH6dmLo
Awesome live performance of Flying Whales.
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Finnforest ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 03 2007 Location: The Heartland Status: Offline Points: 17249 |
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Gojira may be the best metal band I've ever heard (of the hard core assault your senses variety-which I mean as a compliment.) I don't know if they are prog. I don't care. Get their live DVD. Oh sweet jesus is it killer.
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...that moment you realize you like "Mob Rules" better than "Heaven and Hell"
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Novalis ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 15 2007 Location: New Zealand Status: Offline Points: 338 |
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Whatever they are, they kickass!
One of the best metal bands I've ever heard.
Can I get a witness?
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MikeEnRegalia ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 21555 |
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^ so ... you're speechless?
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Vibrationbaby ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: February 13 2004 Status: Offline Points: 6898 |
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I just listened to the one track offered on the Mp 3 on progarchives just to see what all the commotion was about.
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MikeEnRegalia ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 21555 |
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^ so you have some idea of what Gojira sound like ...
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Vibrationbaby ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: February 13 2004 Status: Offline Points: 6898 |
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Gojira! That`s Japaneese for my favourite monster KIng of the Monsters Godzilla.
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MikeEnRegalia ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 21555 |
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So you did not mention Blink 182 in your post?
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NotSoKoolAid ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 24 2006 Status: Offline Points: 507 |
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I've noticed every one of your responses has nothing to do with the content of mine. Leading me to fully understand this is a waste of time.
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MikeEnRegalia ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 21555 |
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You're free to read my review which I submitted today. But please forgive me when I leave it to you to figure out that their music is slightly more complex than Blink 182 ... if you really want to go down to that level of arguing, then I'm staying behind.
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NotSoKoolAid ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 24 2006 Status: Offline Points: 507 |
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With genre, I was specific. The extent in which you ignore this is your choice. You seem to assume also, I have never been specific, with album by album, song by song, details.
You want someone to tell you why Gojira shouldn't be here. This is backwards logic, as you should explain to everyone why Gojira should be here. Without this explaination, Gojira shouldn't be here. I've never heard the explaination, so in my mind, Gojira shouldn't be here.
I thought it was common sense, but it's spelled out for you now.
Been there, done that.
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MikeEnRegalia ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 21555 |
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^ I did read your response ... I simply think that it makes all the difference. How can you expect to be taken seriously without being specific? You just keep saying "They're not prog because I say so - I know better than the prog metal team and most of the other members".
BTW: This is not about winning or losing. There are many bands which I would like to add, but the team denied them ... and there are many bands that others wanted to add, and I (together with other team members) rejected them. Democracy, plain and simple. You're free to join my website - there all members have equal rights in terms of genre assignments. But I guess you'll simply stay here and keep complaining ... you actually seem to be enjoying it. ![]() Edit: And about MTV: In the early 70s bands like Yes or Genesis were all over the radio stations ... go figure. ![]() Edited by MikeEnRegalia - March 11 2007 at 19:51 |
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NotSoKoolAid ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 24 2006 Status: Offline Points: 507 |
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I'll bet you don't know how I know you didn't read my response word for word.
You forgot to mention, that I mentioned, I won't explain what will NEVER make a difference. You won, because the band is here, and never have I observed a group being deleted from this website.
How do I, someone not on admissions, convince a bunch of add-hungry admissions people of anything? Do you not see the hopelessness in that cause?? You don't even see I'm not arguing, I'm stating my opinions. I saw Gojira on an MTV station. Believe me?
Stop wasting people's time. It's rude.
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MikeEnRegalia ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 21555 |
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^ thanks for the elaborate answer, but you still haven't said anything specific about the album in question. From what you're saying I gather that you don't think that any metal can be called prog, so I fail to see the point in you even starting an argument about Gojira ...
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NotSoKoolAid ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 24 2006 Status: Offline Points: 507 |
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I'm glad you chose to not get angry.
Any conversation concerning "What is prog" and "What is not prog" depends on your definition of prog. That's why nobody ever agrees. If any group, that happens to be progressive in any musical sense, is added to the mass amount of "progressive rock" we already have here, we are left with all music that is progressive of course! This part should be obvious. But is this what those who revolve their lives around progressive rock want?
Progressive rock to me, personally, is a style of music. It's not a matter of being progressive (Though the name implies such!). Bad tag, inaccurate name. Music existed in the 1970's that just so happened to be called progressive rock, but that's not to say there was nothing else progressive going on. It was called progressive rock for the purpose of finally having a name to call all these experimental, commercially awkward groups, such as Yes, ELP, Genesis etc. Knowing this, it is one sort of style I often want, and it is this style I refer to as progressive. That IS progressive rock - the roots. Though I acknowledge all sub-genres currently on this website as having the potential to be prog-rock, I fail to see the relation between most of the new metal added to the site this year and last, to anything that happened in the 1970's. Beyond this, how many groups labelled prog-metal on this website DO NOT sound like prog-metal? How many are unclassifiable, as the classic prog-rock groups were? I am content calling Gojira metal. Just metal.
My previous reply was thrown out for the reason of style, not progressive music. I didn't phrase it this way before. My mistake! Next, I'm done going into symantics album by album with people here, as the liberal "Lets add everything" virtually always wins. Let's not dillydally, we all have better things to do. That's how this site wants to work, under current admissions. I can't change that. But I will have my opinions, as will you, the reader.
Furthermore, the kinds of groups you add are only limited to your definition. This is a truth. If you are one of the types to believe contrary to me, i.e. all progressive music belongs on this website, you are bound to nitpick a huge variety of music, inevitably wondering how anyone would deny them entry here. Maybe you wish to take it to the extreme? May as well add anyone who tried something new at this rate. New ideas=progressive? -Technically...- Nobody ever played like Coltrane, nobody ever sang quite like Sinatra. Add them? Or how about Blink 182? When I hear that voice, I always know it's them, as nobody else sounds like that. Add it, why not? It's all progressive, I promise.
Music clearly doesn't have to be related to the invention/creation of progressive-rock/art-rock to be added to progarcs, hell it doesn't even have to be unclassifiable as bands were in the 1970's. You, and others, proved that with your suggestions, which were successful.
Everything stated by me here is with an aim to reach the best possible solution. I'm not trying to start a fight.
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