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Topic: Best and Worst prog Posted: December 23 2007 at 08:11 |
This is only about "taste". Name your favorite prog genres first, and then those that you can't stand of.
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Posted: December 23 2007 at 08:20 |
I like/love'em all
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RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on!
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Posted: December 23 2007 at 08:37 |
i'm only semi-qualified to have an opinion on the genres I don't like, but I feel I've attempted to enjoy them enough to slate them ;P
faves:
rio avant-prog zeuhl wherever you put crimso and vdggg
least faves: prog metal and neo-prog psychedelic rock post rock
Edited by laplace - December 23 2007 at 08:37
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Posted: December 23 2007 at 08:53 |
My Faves:
Psychedelic Prog
Symfo
Progmetal
My Least Faves:
Avant Prog
Krautrock
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Posted: December 23 2007 at 09:52 |
A year has past since I got back into prog. I like almost every genre and have recordings from each. I think I can narrow it down to these.
Favs:
Sympho
Heavy
Psychedelic
Prog. Metal and all the rest of the metal genres
Canterbury
Least Favs:
Zeuhl
Rio/Avant
Indo/Raga
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Posted: December 23 2007 at 13:21 |
meh...no...en...er...gy...lef......ttt
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What?
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Posted: December 23 2007 at 13:31 |
Faves:
Metal
Symphonia
Psychedelic
Kraut
Post-Rock
Experimental
Technical
Avant/ RIO
Least
Zeuhl
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Posted: December 23 2007 at 14:05 |
There is music I like from every category. I'll also add a band from each that I love: Kind of weird the way I ordered this. The genres and bands I particularly like are avant, jazz, and/ or folk oriented; whereas the ones I like least are thrashy and, or slick, AOR,, and or Emo inspired. Several in my bottom list have many favourite bands and albums, but I wanted to do nine in each list.
Favourites with some favourite bands:
RiO/ Avant (Vortex) Zeuhl (Magma) Canterbury (Picchio dal Pozzo) Prog Folk (Comus) Krautrock (Faust) Jazz/ Rock Fusion (Area) Eclectic (Gnidrolog) Electronic (Philippe Besombes) ISP (Banco del Mutuo Soccorso)
Lesser faves with favourite bands (from least fave category to very well liked):
Neo-Prog (Discipline) Prog Metal (Indukti -- love lots of music with a metal component -- e.g. Hoyry Kone, Taal, and Estradasphere) Crossover (McDonald and Giles) Post-Rock/ Math Rock (Godspeed You Black Emperor) Heavy Prog (Gravy Train)
Psych/Space (Far East Family Band) Indo/ Raga (Codona) Symph (Arachnoid -- one of my all time faves, actually French symph ranks very highly for me especially when it's avantish. Shylock da bomb too).
Definitely I'm more avant oriented, and generally appreciate a strong jazz component and/ or folk component.
EDIT: I sometimes describe my favourite progressive music as chamber music. Be great if people would also say which elements appeal most, and appeal the least.
Edited by Logan - December 23 2007 at 14:24
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Posted: December 23 2007 at 14:14 |
ProgBagel wrote:
Least
Zeuhl
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Not to put you on the spot, but just out of curiosity, how many Zeuhl bands have you tried, and what is it about the albums/ streaming mp3s/ bands from the category that you don't like?
Edited by Logan - December 23 2007 at 14:15
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Posted: December 23 2007 at 14:29 |
Logan wrote:
ProgBagel wrote:
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Zeuhl | Not to put you on the spot, but just out of curiosity, how many Zeuhl bands have you tried, and what is it about the albums/ streaming mp3s/ bands from the category that you don't like? |
Hmm, I don't really have a favourite/least favourite subgenre, because there's enough music to like and dislike from all of them, but, statistically speaking, Zeuhl would be my least favourite subgenre as well, mainly because it is, to a large extent, about Magma.
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Posted: December 23 2007 at 14:47 |
Visitor13 wrote:
Logan wrote:
ProgBagel wrote:
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Zeuhl | Not to put you on the spot, but just out of curiosity, how many Zeuhl bands have you tried, and what is it about the albums/ streaming mp3s/ bands from the category that you don't like? |
Hmm, I don't really have a favourite/least favourite subgenre, because there's enough music to like and dislike from all of them, but, statistically speaking, Zeuhl would be my least favourite subgenre as well, mainly because it is, to a large extent, about Magma. |
Well, yeah, fair enough, Magma is the core band. Magma IS Zeuhl. I actually find a
fair variety in Magma's albums. Some people dislike MDK, for instance,
but love Kohntarkosz, Udu Wudu and Kobaia. Some people dislike Magma,
but love Dun, Weidorje, or Eskaton etc. Though i've liked Magma muchly since I first heard the band, I was once a bigger fan of
non-Magma Zeuhl and Zeuhl-related bands.
It's the one category where I happen to be a completist (Canterbury to quite an extent too).
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Posted: December 23 2007 at 17:31 |
i don't have any indo or zeuhl so i can't judge those. i'd say my favourites are eclectic and symph.
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Posted: December 23 2007 at 22:11 |
Favorites: Eclectic prog (KC and GG) Experimental Post Metal (Isis) Post/math-rock (Sigur Ros, Don Caballero, Dillinger Escape Plan) Heavy Prog (Rush) Psychedelic/Space rock (Pink Floyd) Tech/Extreme Prog Metal (Gojira, Mastodon)
Least Favorite: Neo-progressive Prog Metal
None of this is universal, of course. I guess I find most prog metal a bit overblown, but I love exuberant music of any type. I listened to punk and generic rock when I was younger, so I guess it makes sense.
Edited by Hirgwath - December 23 2007 at 22:15
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Posted: December 24 2007 at 15:49 |
Favourite
Neo-Prog
Prog-Metal
Symphonic Prog
Art Rock (Eclectic Prog/Crossover Prog)
Space Rock
Post Rock
Prog Folk
Least Favourite
Avant/RIO
Zeuhl
Jazz Rock
Krautrock
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Posted: December 24 2007 at 16:18 |
Hirgwath wrote:
... None of this is universal, of course. I guess I find most prog metal a bit overblown, but I love exuberant music of any type. I listened to punk and generic rock when I was younger, so I guess it makes sense.
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Not that so-called Proggers need to or should like music from the all the Prog categories at this site, but, as a common trait of "Prog" is the blending of genres, there are, of course, bands/ albums that can really help one to cross over to, and appreciate, other categories here. Perhaps for another thread, but I've always thought that it might be a useful exercise suggesting bands/ albums that may help one to better appreciate other categories (for instance, a Symph album that could also be tagged as Avant, or a Neo-Prog band that could also be tagged as folk etc. Eclectic's got a wide variety of good examples, unsurprisingly). Of course it helps to have a good knowledge of the bands that a person likes and dislikes, and a good understanding of the qualities someone admires in Prog. Can open one's ears to whole new worlds. I imagine that most of our tastes evolve over time as we become exposed to more (no matter what age we are). Of course we'll all have least liked and most liked, and I'm sure that many, like with me, have found that their favourite categories/ genres/ subgenres tend to change depending on whatever one is particularly into at any given time (brains get rewired for different types).
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Posted: December 24 2007 at 16:21 |
Aeternus wrote:
This is only about "taste". Name your favorite prog genres first, and then those that you can't stand of. 
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Are you planning to list yours?
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Posted: December 24 2007 at 23:43 |
Favorite:
Neo ^__^ Space Symph Electronic Post-anything All but really extreme prog metal Canterbury
Good but not necessarily favorite:
Eclectic prog Krautrock
Rather indifferent to:
Folk Raga
Hit or Miss:
Avant Zeuhl Fusion
Edited by stonebeard - December 24 2007 at 23:49
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Posted: December 24 2007 at 23:48 |
Favirote
Post rock.metal
Symph
Tech metal
Havent listend to enough to have a least favirote.
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Posted: December 25 2007 at 10:24 |
Logan wrote:
Aeternus wrote:
This is only about "taste". Name your favorite prog genres first, and then those that you can't stand of. 
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Yeah, sure. I always like to let others post their opinions first. Favorites: Neo-prog Prog metal Fusion Heavy prog Electronic prog Symphonic prog Space rock Tech/Extreme prog Crossover prog Prog-related Least fav: Prog folk I really haven't explored Zeuhl (I saw a dream two days before, I was listening to Magma on a radio, and I enjoyed them alot!), RIO/Avant, Krautrock... I will appreciate some recommendations...
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Posted: December 25 2007 at 15:04 |
I often prefer to do my lists in topics I create after others too (else everyone just ends up debating my choices before listing their own).
Glad to hear you enjoyed Magma. Since you like metal, I might suggest you start with groups like Taal, Kayo Dot, Mr. Bungle, Sleepytime Gorilla Museum, and Estradaspere. Wait, on second thought, get Hoyry Kone's Houno Parturi, Miriodor's Mekano and try John Zorn's naked City. Maybe Taal first. Then I suggest Present and Univers Zero, Boredoms so many. Koenjihayakkei is a good modern Zeuhl band to try (Angherr Shisppa), and Eskaton and Dun are good old ones to try. U Totem is one I love in Avant. In Krautrock, Amon Duul II, Faust, Can. I still don't know Krautrock well enough.
If you appreciate fusion then, there are a ton of avant bands to choose from.
Miriodor might be a good one to start with, and I think Mr. Bungle might be a great one to try (might check out the samples). It's such a varied category.
That's just stuff off the top of my head.
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