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Seyo 
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 Posted: December 13 2007 at 04:06 |
Intersting topic! My first gramophone (turntable) had 4 speeds: 16, 33, 45 and 78!
It was on old 60s model, I forgot the brand name...
And I had a few 10" records on 78 rpm, made of hard and heavy plastic (what's the name for it?), proto-vinyl type... I remember they contained some popular melodies from 1930/40s I guess. I wish I had them now... Unfortunately my ancient vinyl collection was not saved :(
I also had a few flexi dics and also a book records containing English lessons. That was how I first started to learn English... :)
During 70s in Yugoslavia some hi-fi fans used to record music on reeel-to-reel tapes on "magnetophones" (Revox) for home purposes... the sound was allegedly better than on regular vinyl records...
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Posted: December 13 2007 at 04:24 |
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I also remember there was a used record store in Toronto that had a 15" LP on the wall as a decoration. It was spray painted over to look cool, so I don't know what would be on it. |
I've never seen one in the flesh, but I think this might be an acetate. Basically a "test pressing" to let those involved (band, producers, record company people etc) hear how it will sound. I've read about them being larger than normal 12" records and that they will wear out quickly because acetate is softer than vinyl.
Edited by A B Negative - December 13 2007 at 04:25
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Posted: December 13 2007 at 04:30 |
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And I had a few 10" records on 78 rpm, made of hard and heavy plastic (what's the name for it?), proto-vinyl type... |
They're made of shellac. Very brittle stuff, more satisfying to smash than vinyl records!
Edited by A B Negative - December 13 2007 at 04:32
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Posted: December 13 2007 at 04:33 |
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You can still get blank MiniDiscs but I don't think many people use them due to the popularity of other digital formats.
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I love minidiscs but ipods have killed them. 
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Posted: December 13 2007 at 04:54 |
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IFirst of all, we have vynil: LPs spinning on 33, varying in length from 25 to 65 mins(!), then EPs, size of the LP but spinning on 45. Then singles, with big hole, 7", spinning on 45...any other sizes? I have a few 10" records, a 9" record by E.A.R. and a 5" by Rocket from the Crypt.
Digital Audio Tape: I saw it for the home usage, but I think it never gained popularity. It was popular in recording studios for a while but computer based systems have taken over.
I was amazed when I discovered a flexi-disc, a sort of a rubber vynil record. Did anyone ever published a single on that? Flexi discs were mostly used as promotional items, given away free with magazines. I think there was an ELP flexi to promote Brain Salad Surgery.
For that matter, did anyone ever published an album as a "box set" of ten singles rather than long playing vynil? That would be aestethically very pleasing. I've seen one or two but I can't remember who (sorry!)
Did anyone ever published a record whose A side spins on 33, B on 45? What about 16 and 78? I have a few 7" records with one track on the A side at 45 rpm and two tracks on the B side at 33 rpm. Stations of the Crass (by everyone's favourite anarcho punks Crass) is a double vinyl album with three sides which play at 45 rpm and one at 33 rpm. My brother has a record by Sonic Boom which is meant to be played at any speed you want!
Did anyone ever published a "box set" containing more than one different media in the package? (let's say CD and vinyl) My friend has a box set by Big Black which contained (if memory serves) a VHS video, 12" LP, 5" single and a t-shirt.
Anyone did a LP with a big "singles" hole? I heard the story of a band who di a record without a hole, for a joke. Drill Your Own Hole by Gaye Bykers On Acid.
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Seyo
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Posted: December 13 2007 at 05:12 |
A B Negative wrote:
My brother has a record by Sonic Boom which is meant to be played at any speed you want!
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Wow!  I would definitely like to hear and see that... 
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Posted: December 13 2007 at 05:32 |
Seyo wrote:
A B Negative wrote:
My brother has a record by Sonic Boom which is meant to be played at any speed you want!
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Wow! I would definitely like to hear and see that... |
It's 10" orange splattery vinyl in a clear plastic sleeve. I think it came free with the first pressings of Sonic Boom's first album. The music's different to the album though, more like E.A.R.
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Seyo
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Posted: December 13 2007 at 12:09 |
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I never heard Sonic Boom anyway before. What's that like?
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Posted: December 13 2007 at 13:33 |
In Finland there's a new series of more or less classic Finnish albums that come with a jigsaw puzzle of the album's cover: 
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Posted: December 13 2007 at 19:47 |
Seyo wrote:
A B Negative wrote:
My brother has a record by Sonic Boom which is meant to be played at any speed you want!
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Wow! I would definitely like to hear and see that... |
This Heat also did something like that, but only half the EP. One side had a specific RPM, the other was entitled "Graphic Varispeed" and did not have a RPM marking.
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Posted: December 13 2007 at 20:02 |
rileydog22 wrote:
Nobody mentioned the OLD SCHOOL wax cylinders yet? First recording medium ever, if I'm not mistaken. Edison FTW.
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I didn't read far enough to see if anyone responded to this but Edison's first recordings were on cylinders made of tinfoil, and it was Christopher Bell and Charles Tainter who patented the wax cylinders. Edison actually considered using a flat disc but he thought a cylinder would be more scientifically correct. What an idiot! 
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Posted: December 14 2007 at 04:50 |
Seyo wrote:
I never heard Sonic Boom anyway before. What's that like? |
Have you heard Spacemen 3?
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Posted: December 14 2007 at 09:07 |
Philéas wrote:
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Anybody else got any crap flexis?
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I have one that came with a Guitar Player magazine in October 1984. It features The Attitude Song by Steve Vai. 33 rpm. It's square, unlike other flexidiscs I've seen.
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I've got a couple of square flexi discs, they're that shape so they can be stapled into a magazine. They have a perforated edge so you can just rip it out and play it.
My friend has a flexi disc from a top shelf "adult interest" magazine.
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Seyo
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Posted: December 18 2007 at 09:05 |
A B Negative wrote:
Seyo wrote:
I never heard Sonic Boom anyway before. What's that like? |
Have you heard Spacemen 3? |
No, is it sort of heavy hard-core noise like Big Black?
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Posted: December 18 2007 at 09:27 |
Seyo wrote:
A B Negative wrote:
Seyo wrote:
I never heard Sonic Boom anyway before. What's that like? |
Have you heard Spacemen 3? |
No, is it sort of heavy hard-core noise like Big Black? |
No, it's minimalist drone guitar music. Some of it's similar to Loop (who alledgedly stole their style from Spacemen 3), there's also hints of the Velvet Underground. Their mottos were "taking drugs to make music to take drugs to" and "minimal is maximal". The main members of the band were J Spaceman (Jason Pierce) and Sonic Boom (Pete Kember). When they split, Pierce formed Spiritualized and Kember went solo as Sonic Boom and then formed Spectrum and Experimental Audio Research.
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