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Poll Question: who is the greatest prog keyboard player of all time?
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33 [36.67%]
18 [20.00%]
2 [2.22%]
1 [1.11%]
1 [1.11%]
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 07 2007 at 11:28
My favourite is Banks, in terms of musical sympathy the mans a genius. However the best player is Wakeman at the end of the day, so he got the vote.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 07 2007 at 13:40
Tony Banks is one of my favorites musicians ever. I think his skills and way of playing at keys are unique in every way. But i also like Emerson and Wakeman but there is many more great key players that you forget to list here.
Where is Kerry Minnear from Gentle Giant, one of the most inteligent and skillfull musician ever
where is Ken Hensley from Uriah Heep, very important key player in prog music in my opinion
 where is John Lord from Deep Purple
 where is John Tout from Renaissance, one of the most inventive key player from his decade
 where is Peter Bardens from Camel
 where is Hugh Banton from Van der Graaf Generator, and many many stunning musicians that you forget to mention here. They are among my favourites key players from entire prog music, and they are from old school, not to mention others from '80 and '90 and from today.
This poll in my opinion is so so, not good not better then others, anyway is forgetable, sorry to be so rude.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 07 2007 at 13:45
'Kieth Emerson'
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 07 2007 at 15:07
I'm a Wright-fan, but he's not there *glares*
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 07 2007 at 23:24
Originally posted by erik neuteboom erik neuteboom wrote:

 
                   Emerson never played the Mellotron so Rick Wakeman is my #1
                   because of his famous 'Tarantula technique' on the Mellotron Wink!


What's this 'Tarantula technique'?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 07 2007 at 23:26
On the 'tron, you can only hold a note for 8 seconds before the tape runs out.  The "tarantula" or "spider" technique involves slowly crawling from one inversion of a chord to another in order to hold a mellotron chord for more than 8 seconds.  

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 07 2007 at 23:34
Keith Emerson - 10
Rick Wakeman - 9.999
Tony Banks - 9.9

But I will always remind you that Banks is a complete jerk. Nowadays he tells everyone about how he hated playing long songs with ridiculous lyrics and complex solos, and says he only did it because he had a weak personality and Peter Gabriel and the others drove him to do it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 07 2007 at 23:39
Have you ever tried to create a decent-sounding synthesizer sound from scratch? It ain't easy, even using the most modern technology. It's truly an art form, in fact.

Not that Rudess is particularly adept at that, IMO. In fact, that's my main beef with him: he uses the same 5 patches or so over and over and over again. He's a ridiculously skilled player, however.

I went with Tony, who will sometimes understate his playing in order to fit the song.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 08 2007 at 05:23
^ Are you talking about getting the sound samples, looping them, adding decay times, etc., or are you talking about physically building a synthesizer?  If it's the latter, I wouldn't include that in my calculations, unless it was for who was a better electrical/sound engineer.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 08 2007 at 07:37

The Noccenzi brothers deserve a mention when keyboard players are discussed.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 08 2007 at 07:41
Originally posted by b_olariu b_olariu wrote:

Tony Banks is one of my favorites musicians ever. I think his skills and way of playing at keys are unique in every way. But i also like Emerson and Wakeman but there is many more great key players that you forget to list here.
Where is Kerry Minnear from Gentle Giant, one of the most inteligent and skillfull musician ever

where is Ken Hensley from Uriah Heep, very important key player in prog music in my opinion

 where is John Lord from Deep Purple

 where is John Tout from Renaissance, one of the most inventive key player from his decade

 where is Peter Bardens from Camel

 where is Hugh Banton from Van der Graaf Generator, and many many stunning musicians that you forget to mention here. They are among my favourites key players from entire prog music, and they are from old school, not to mention others from '80 and '90 and from today.

This poll in my opinion is so so, not good not better then others, anyway is forgetable, sorry to be so rude.


Well said, Lord and Bardens beat all (other than Banks) on this list.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 08 2007 at 08:02
Hugh Banton, Mike Ratledge, David Sinclair & Dave Stewart are some that comes to mind, but ofc theres loades of more that constantly gets ignored..
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 08 2007 at 08:13
Off that list, Keith Emerson.
 
But i LOVE Kerry Minear, Peter Bardens, Mike Ratledge, David Sinclair...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 08 2007 at 10:31
Originally posted by rileydog22 rileydog22 wrote:

On the 'tron, you can only hold a note for 8 seconds before the tape runs out.  The "tarantula" or "spider" technique involves slowly crawling from one inversion of a chord to another in order to hold a mellotron chord for more than 8 seconds.  
 
 
So I have heard as well.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 08 2007 at 10:37
12 votes for Banks... damn...some of you need a Genesis enima..LOL

another vote for Emo... and his work...and his legacy speaks volumes as for why...

or this shall suffice...

Could there be such a thing as a keyboardist not familiar with the works of Keith Emerson? Not in awe of his historic place in the annals of electronic musical evolution? As the first musician ever to use a modular Moog synthesizer on stage, Emerson accomplished the Herculean task of pulling the spotlight over to the keyboard section, incorporating outrageous theatrics and amazing chops to create an unmistakable presence.

From their inception in 1970, Emerson, Lake and Palmer achieved instant fame with their unique blend of modern technology and classical orchestration. Their first single, entitled "Lucky Man," ended with a startling new sound, the first featured lead synthesizer solo. This sound took the music world by storm, and their first five albums went platinum.

Keith Emerson himself has consistently won the Overall Best Keyboardist award in the annual Keyboard Magazine readers’ poll since the magazine debuted in 1975.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 08 2007 at 10:47
 Keith Emerson is probably the best from a technically point of view but there are many others that are arguably more interesting. Rick Wakeman is a close second and although hes not as great from a Prog perspective, John Lord is also amazing. For instance the solo from "Burn".
 
another interesting player is Claudio Simonetti from the Band Goblin who have done countless scores for Dario Argento movies as well as the score for the US Movie DAWN OF THE DEAD


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 09 2007 at 00:55
Originally posted by agProgger agProgger wrote:

^ Are you talking about getting the sound samples, looping them, adding decay times, etc., or are you talking about physically building a synthesizer?  If it's the latter, I wouldn't include that in my calculations, unless it was for who was a better electrical/sound engineer.


Well, you're talking about sampling, which is also an art form in itself. I'm referring to the process of designing a sound from the ground up using the existing architecture of a given synthesizer, vs. simply using the "presets".

Actually designing and building a synthesizer would be an entirely different category, I agree... which is why I'm in awe of people like the late Bob Moog.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 09 2007 at 03:54
Originally posted by Empathy Empathy wrote:

Originally posted by agProgger agProgger wrote:

^ Are you talking about getting the sound samples, looping them, adding decay times, etc., or are you talking about physically building a synthesizer?  If it's the latter, I wouldn't include that in my calculations, unless it was for who was a better electrical/sound engineer.


Well, you're talking about sampling, which is also an art form in itself. I'm referring to the process of designing a sound from the ground up using the existing architecture of a given synthesizer, vs. simply using the "presets".

Actually designing and building a synthesizer would be an entirely different category, I agree... which is why I'm in awe of people like the late Bob Moog.


That's what I thought.  I'm actually doing something like that tomorrow for a final in a Music and Technology course I'm taking, except that it's with weird, cavernous noises instead of set notes.  We use a program called Kontakte... it's pretty cool.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 09 2007 at 05:45
Creating sounds in hardware, either using basic electronics to build sound generators and modifiers or by building modules (http://www.synthtech.com/), is enormous fun but costly. From a technical point of view there is nothing difficult in doing this - the principles are easy enough to grasp even with a rudimentary understanding of electronics - even if you forsake the Analogue world (::shudder::) and go Digital, small PIC processors are ideal for sound synthesis.  Sadly, many of my home-based projects stalled from lack of funds rather than lack of knowledge.
 
There is another (cheaper) route to hardware sound synthesis where you use circuit-bending (modifying) to get new sounds cheap electronic toys and other gadgets http://www.oddmusic.com/illogic/index.html
 
On the software front there is a program called Csound that uses a C like language to create sounds and then allows you to form those sounds into compositions. http://www.csounds.com/
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 09 2007 at 12:17
Originally posted by Norbert Norbert wrote:

The Noccenzi brothers deserve a mention when keyboard players are discussed.

they sure do...the ol' Italian trademark: two keyboard players are better than one.
 
Voted for Tony B...cuz he can never have "too many" votes.  He did more tricky, subtle things than Wakeman and Emo, and he was a far better songwriter.
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