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Points: 1819 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 19 2007 at 04:02
very cool little film of performance w/ music by Rational Diet

http://www.archive.org/details/PsychicalDisbalanceTheatre

enjoy!

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Points: 131 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 19 2007 at 18:47
Holy crap, 139 pages about RIO music, I didn´t realize this genre was so popular here (hmm... or maybe it isn´t, maybe you´re just dedicated nerds of the genre ;) , I don´t know to much of the genre (just know stuff like Sleepyt.G.M., M.Patton-stuff and F. Zappa) but am getting more interested in the genre and listening to some bands in the key-album section, I really like Samla M.M.
 
Anyway I put the only band from my country that plays this kind of music in the unsigned bands section http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=43449
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Points: 89372 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 19 2007 at 18:54
Welcome, Hamfari.

There's plenty to explore in the RIO/Avant-Prog field.  If you want to start anywhere, I would start at the beginning.

Therefore, listening to the earlier pioneers of avant-garde (progressive) music, maybe a start.  Try early Robert Wyatt, Hugh Hopper, Albert Marcoeur and even Frank Zappa in many regards.

Then discover Henry Cow, SMM (who you already like), Etron Fou Leloublan, Univers Zero, Present, Art Zoyd and perhaps even some Zeuhl, such as Magma or Zao.

If you want some wonderful modern avant-prog, try bands such as:

Guapo
Koenjihyakkei
Wha-ha-ha
Ruins
Korekyojinn
Sotos
Zaar
Amygdala
Zypressen
Rational Diet
OOIOO
Absolute Zero
Alamaailman Vasarat

Plus many more.

Just wait for Assaf to respond, he'll have a whole list of great bands to investigate. Wink
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Points: 131 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 19 2007 at 18:57
Thanx f. the beginner tip Gecko :)
hmmm.... when I´m done checking out the bands you mentioned.... months later probably haha... I can check out what your mate Assaf mentions 


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Points: 89372 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 19 2007 at 19:01
They'll probably be very similar mentions, to be truthful, be he has a better memory than I, so he'll no doubt come up with more.


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Welcome Hamfari, hope you find some stuff you enjoy..
Some of fave rio & related avant bands off the top of my head [hefty list hmm? ;).. though some may just be too off for an intro..?]:
Art Bears
News from Babel
Cassiber
5uu's
Non Credo
Slapp Happy / Henry Cow [Desperate Straights]
Skeleton Crew
Stormy Six
Pocket Orchestra
Unrest, Work & Play
Motor Totemist Guild
U Totem
Ahvak
Absolute Zero
Doctor Nerve
Bablicon
This Heat
Larval/Bill Brovold
Pak [ron anderson] - if yr into sleepytime/mr bungle/patton, this should be rgt up yr ally..
La STPO
ZU
Lindsay Cooper
Andre Duchesne - Les Tempes des Bombes
Heiner Goebbels & Alfred Harth - Indianer Für Morgen
Plastic People of the Universe
Tipographica [if you like a jazz slant, but if you like Zappa I imagine..]
Akinetón Retard
Förträngt Hushållsarbete
Yugen
Hoyry-Kone
Ne Zhdali
Uz Jsme Doma
Magma [zeuhl]
Eskaton [zeuhl]
ZAO [zeuhl]
Dun [zeuhl]
Pochakaite Malko [zeuhl]
Shub-Niggurath [zeuhl]
Bondage Fruit [zeuhl]
 
Ok, I'll can it now [..:)]..Some others I would list have been mentioned..
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btw, I sent some samples to a bunch of folks yesterday. If you know you're on my list and did not receive any, pls. lmk. I sent:
Dagmar Krause
Catherine Jauniaux
Cracow Klezmer Band
 


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Are Oh Moscow and/or solo Lindsay Cooper solo albums worth my time?  If so, which ones would you recommend I grab?  

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Originally posted by rileydog22 rileydog22 wrote:

Are Oh Moscow and/or solo Lindsay Cooper solo albums worth my time?  If so, which ones would you recommend I grab?  
 
Depends on your taste of course, but I think they're sublime in most cases. I'm a rater at Gnosis, and I gave O.M. a 14 [out of 15 tops]. My other two faves [13s] are Music for Other Occasions & Rags.

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I saw a compilation of Rags and Golddiggers. Is that a good one?
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If you like chamber prog then Lindsay Cooper's solo works are essential. My favourite is Oh! Moscow - it's a curious beast, a kind of RIO musical, but it works and there are some very imaginative arrangements. The Rags/Golddiggers album is also worth picking up; both were film soundtracks and include mostly shorter, song based material - kind of a stepping stone between Henry Cow and News From Babel. 
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A Finnish act called Haare. They had their own myspace page before, but it seems to have disappeared.
 
There's still a sample track of the band on Julian Cope's Unsung.
 
The Temple
 
 
Very abstract electronic music. Psychedelic/noise/experimental?
 
Maybe for fans of Japanese noise music or early Tangerine Dream?
 
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I'm currently listening to the latest release on AltRock (the people what brung us Rational Diet and Yugen). It's Kinesis, the debut album by an Italian band called Accordo dei Contrari. They're already listed here under jazz/rock fusion, which is perfectly appropriate, but there's a definite hint of RIO lurking in there as well, with a touch of Canterbury for good measure; there's something of Samla Mammas Manna or the Muffins about them. Well worth checking out.
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Hey, RIO isn't really my bag so I don't usually find myself on this thread, but what are your expert opinions on must have zappa albums? I have The Grand Wazoo and Zoot Allures (my two favourites) Hot Rats, Weasels Ripped My Flesh and Freak Out! I also have Jazz From Hell, but I don't care for it. What next?
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Originally posted by cynthiasmallet cynthiasmallet wrote:

Hey, RIO isn't really my bag so I don't usually find myself on this thread, but what are your expert opinions on must have zappa albums? I have The Grand Wazoo and Zoot Allures (my two favourites) Hot Rats, Weasels Ripped My Flesh and Freak Out! I also have Jazz From Hell, but I don't care for it. What next?
 
If you're into Zappa's more avant rock moments (and to judge from the albums you've listed so far that seems to be the case) you could also try Burnt Weeny Sandwich (don't be put off by the first track) and Lumpy Gravy from his early career, Waka/Jawaka from his 70s output and the excellent live set Make a Jazz Noise Here from the 80s. The Yellow Shark is a performance of his 'serious' music by the Ensemble Moderne, excellent stuff but I'd recommend hearing it before you buy!
 
That's just off the top of my head, but I suspect that you've opened a can of worms with this query Wink
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Originally posted by Syzygy Syzygy wrote:

I'm currently listening to the latest release on AltRock (the people what brung us Rational Diet and Yugen). It's Kinesis, the debut album by an Italian band called Accordo dei Contrari. They're already listed here under jazz/rock fusion, which is perfectly appropriate, but there's a definite hint of RIO lurking in there as well, with a touch of Canterbury for good measure; there's something of Samla Mammas Manna or the Muffins about them. Well worth checking out.
 
 
Sounds interesting, I love SMM and Muffins and bands like that. Will check them out sooner or laterSmile
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Originally posted by Syzygy Syzygy wrote:

I'm currently listening to the latest release on AltRock (the people what brung us Rational Diet and Yugen). It's Kinesis, the debut album by an Italian band called Accordo dei Contrari. They're already listed here under jazz/rock fusion, which is perfectly appropriate, but there's a definite hint of RIO lurking in there as well, with a touch of Canterbury for good measure; there's something of Samla Mammas Manna or the Muffins about them. Well worth checking out.
 
Received this promo from Marcello from Altr0ck last week and its a grower. Melodic, exciting, many interesting ideas, a lot of variety in there. Should appeal to both jazz-rock and avant-rock folks.
 
One  of the highlights of this year, even though it is a sort of re-release from last year.
 
 
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Points: 12625 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 21 2007 at 18:55
On another note, I've posted here before about me starting to explore the music/noise of Supersilent (which was also a major reason for me to start the thread "Is There A Line Between Music & Noise) and I have so far came across the first 4 albums and I can spot a progerssion as I advanced, a sort of being less raw, less blurry and becoming a bit more focused, but maybe that's just me....
 
Anyway, I thought of giving you some links to read about the band:
 
All About Jazz - reviews and an article - http://www.allaboutjazz.com/php/musician.php?id=15353
 
 
 
Their Unofficial website - http://www.supersilence.net/
 
 
 
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Points: 12625 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 21 2007 at 20:41
To mention another group I discovered lately - I was sent a promo copy of the 2007 release by the experimental progressive music group Random Touch called A True Conductor Wears A Man.
I have already started writing the review (I'll post it here when it's done as well as in Progressive Ears.com who were those who sent me the cd's).
I was so impressed with what I heard that I proceeded to go to their website and order their other albums.
 

This is not rock, not your average music or progressive music for that matter (but progressive it is, just not what is usually meant when I hear references to it).

This is a mix of sounds made by various instruments in a way that creates some tunes, ambiances, atmospheric textures, energetic patterns and some melodic lines.

 
 
 
 
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Another very good and interesting release in this ballpark is Annie Gosfield's - Flying Sparks & Heavy Machinery which was released through Tzadik
 
Fascinating music, done in a different way
 
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Originally posted by avestin avestin wrote:

I have recently bought from Wayside the Live album from Suishou No Fune (Shining Star) - Live
Still learning this, but I'll give you this I found on them:
 
 
 
 
 
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artist: SUISHOU NO FUNE
title:The Shining Star - Live
catalog #: IMPREC165
upc:793447516523
release date: October 9, 2007
format: CD

Suishou no Fune [soo-ee-sho no foo-nay] was formed in 1999 by guitarists Pirako Kurenai and Kageo. They were quickly acknowledged in Japan for their unique take on Japanese psychedelic traditions but it wasn't until their inclusion on PSF's Tokyo Flashback Volume 5 they became that their international prominance began to grow.

Heavy lyrical emotion transcends linguistic barriers and Pirako's blown out fuzzy free-dream guitar work is an alternate universe psychedelic Japanese shoegaze. They are a forest at night drenched in echoing reverb and soaked with deeply spiritual/emotional melodies. Awash in waves of fuzz Suishi No Fune's control of detail amidst chaos and heavy emotions is their deepest asset. Here's to the past. Here's to the future. Somewhere between Fush*tsusha and Windy & Carl there is Suishi No Fune.

"The group's sound runs from massively distended nod-outs that recall parts of the first Fush*tsusha album through weird duo tracks that orbit a parallel universe where late-period John Fahey was the prime influence on Charalambides, infernal Dead C/Gate style guitar abuse and achingly beautiful comedown ballads. The twin vocalists are massively different in their approach, with Pirako singing in a high wayward style that's all throat and no lungs while Kageo works from the other end of the pipes with a ripped Father Yod/Jim Morrison/Keiji Haino polyglot. Simply one of the greatest out-of-nowhere groups to come out of the Tokyo underground in years and the undisputed stars of PSF's recent Tokyo Flashback 5 compilation." --Volcanic Tongue

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For the collabs, look in the collab zone for a thread I opened about several bands to add and you'll see this there as well.
 
I liked this quite a bit assaf, thanks for the heads up. def. psyche though -
 
I want to add this title to the Gnosis database - am I right in concluding that the release date is 2007 [I googled and that seems to be the case -]?


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