suggestions.... groups to be moved OUT of

darqdean wrote: Ricochet wrote: micky wrote: darqdean wrote: micky wrote: I think PH might be a nice fit for Xover.. no? Peter Hammill????!!!   Oh, Procal Harum - yes I concur (I've got their first 4 albums, I need to listen to Grand Hotel) Peter Hammill stays in Eclectic...for ever! haha Gotta get me some Procol Harum, as soon as possible... The day Mr Hammill releases a Crossover album is the day I hang up my progboots

Lady In Black wrote: If ELO are Xover and Supertramp is totally Prog (don't remember the specific Prog genre) I think that also 10CC are totally Prog (Xover, I think). I'm mad?

don't be mad.... it's a rickin music website... you know.... fun?

If ELO are Xover and Supertramp is totally Prog (don't remember the specific Prog genre) I think that also 10CC are totally Prog (Xover, I think). I'm mad?

DISCIPLINE - from Neo to Eclectic (VDGG and KC influences dominate over obvious GENESIS ones)

THE AMBER LIGHT - from PR to Psych or Crossover, but Raff rejected it recently

MonkeyphoneAlex wrote: I've always thought of Wishbone Ash as more than prog-related.  Perhaps Prog-folk or Crossover is their true home.

markosherrera wrote: darqdean wrote: markosherrera wrote: Split Enz xtc City not too prog..   Are you nominating Split Enz and City to be move out of the Archive completely?   XTC are not in the archive at all, are you asking for them to be added? for me Split Enz is a good group ,not too prog for be considered prog related,I Believe  that I saw XTC in one list of P.A ,and XTC IS NEW WAVE 80,S not prog,and City is a poor band imho...so thats bands must be removed

if I may intrude... no where was it asked to state what groups you feel were mistakenly added here.

darqdean wrote: hmmm, wants and gets are probably not the same.   Looking through the PR list there are many bands I have never heard.   Of those I have...   As has been said before, yes to Rick Wright - Broken China and Wet Dreams are 100% prog and fitting for Crossover. agreed 100%   I'm ambivalent on Jon Anderson, Olias is good Prog, but the rest overshadows that IMO. ditto....   APP - I'm the one holding up APP for moving to Xover because I haven't heard enough of them to form an opinion, same for Styx. No hurry on APP... and Styx...  if going on the prog output.. should not be Xover.. but another sub.. and that ....has a snowballs chance in hell of happening     Roxy Music are a quintessential Art Rock band for me, but I accept their place in PR as being apt for their Top-40 image.   The admins are aware of our thoughts of that Same for Japan, who were what Art Rock became in the 80s (if you ignore their Synth-pop Quiet Life). I'm happy with Sylvian and Rain Tree Crow being in Crossover and Japan remaining in PR, but I liked the idea of keeping them all in one place because that is how I file them in my own collection Japan... is one, as I posted in our team thread.. I am torn over... personally I think they belong in Xover... but for other reasons... mainly the views of  others I thought they might be best in PR. To keep the peace...and that is a sad way to have to run an archival, reference site.   Phil Manzanera's 801 were a live continuation of Quiet Sun and Eno solo thus Art Rock and Canterbury tinged. His solo albums are an eclectic fusion of Canterburyish, Spanish folk, Art Rock and non-mainstream pop. I would nominate both for Xover since they are not true Canterbury. Not familiar with his work   Vangelis - there have been a few threads on him stating that he has produced 3 or 4 100% prog albums, unfortunately he has made many many more albums that are not (much like J M Jarre). And as a fan of Larry Fast's Synergy I don't fully understand why they are PR and not Electronic Prog, but accept that Team's better knowledge on such matters. 3 or 4 prog albums should be enough to get someone into a prog sub.. .as I said ... this is a prog site.. not a career overview site.    Coheed and Cambria - as much as I like this band, their latest album has nailed their coffin for remaining PR I think.   And finally, (Cyril)   Kalevala - the name intrigues me because of the Finnish Epic Poem and the various artists concept album of the same name. The single sample on the PA is a good candidate for Heavy Prog or Eclectic - any one have any thoughts on this band?   On a different note - what are peoples' thoughts on Jeff Buckley for PR? those others there... I have heard of... my not familiar enough to have any sort of opinion hahha

markosherrera wrote: Split Enz xtc City not too prog..

darqdean wrote: micky wrote: I think PH might be a nice fit for Xover.. no? Peter Hammill????!!!   Oh, Procal Harum - yes I concur (I've got their first 4 albums, I need to listen to Grand Hotel)

darqdean wrote:   Kalevala - the name intrigues me because of the Finnish Epic Poem and the various artists concept album of the same name. The single sample on the PA is a good candidate for Heavy Prog or Eclectic - any one have any thoughts on this band?

I have my own copy of the Italian translation of the Kalevala lying on a chair beside my desk... It is probably the best translation ever made, much better then the English ones I've seen so far. I am writing a dissertation on Finnish fairy tales, so my mind is never far from those subjects!

That said, we must have some uncanny ESP connection, because I thought much the same thing earlier this morning. I have some material by them, which I'd be happy to send your way if you want to form a clearer idea. I've seen them referred to as HP on a couple of sites too. David and I will assess them gladly, and Eetu will be very happy too, since he asked me to see if they could be moved about a year ago.