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    Posted: November 16 2007 at 16:46
just curious as to everyones thoughts...

as we noted in the PR thread.. there exists here a severe amount of confusion as to the nature of P-R.  In my time here... I have seen full prog groups added there  for lack of a  sub-genre that matches there music exactly, with no sense of 'best fit'  so they would be dumped into PR.  There are many groups presently in PR that did prog albums.. but are not 'thought' of as prog groups.  Since this site is about prog music... not a career overview site like Allmusic.  It should be the prog that is important..


Moving groups out, is not exactly a priority of the genre teams. .since we are bombarded with new suggestions for addtion,  those that come through the Band Submissions Team, threads here,  our fellow collabs directly, or of course our our explorations.  However I am curious and would like to involve the general forum.. .what groups currently in PR do you think should be moved to other sub-genres.. and which ones.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2007 at 16:56
Alan Parson's Project to symph, or crossover due to the later albums (the first two are suitable for prog, and there still progosity after that).

Wishbone Ash should be moved... I think Phish could be moved too... Ah, sorry, will complete this later.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2007 at 16:59
Peter Sinfield, perhaps?
 
He, himself, is Prog Related... but his album(s) Still(usion) bear(s) some hints of something more Prog than merely Related-ness to it...


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2007 at 17:00
we've talked about APP to Xover... but that is still under discussion..


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2007 at 17:55
I know I failed to deliver a promise about this, but I still support the initial idea: Crossover needs Rick Wright! Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2007 at 17:58
Originally posted by andu andu wrote:

I know I failed to deliver a promise about this, but I still support the initial idea: Crossover needs Rick Wright! Smile


He is, with admin approval, approved  to be moved.. Dean and I agreed on that.Clap
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2007 at 18:13
I feel like opening a Pandora brand can of worms







Coheed and Cambria




just kidding, but hell, if 3's in crossover, I don't see any reason why they shouldn't be
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2007 at 18:18
This one is a good thread... There are quite some artists in PR who have done one or more 100% prog albums, but were directed to PR in order to avoid trouble since they're not considered prog artists. Still, theoretically they should be in prog sub-genres, according to the rules...

I'm thinking of Jon Anderson (Olias?.....), Jeff Beck (jazz-rock?), I'm sure there some more.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2007 at 18:23
Originally posted by erik neuteboom erik neuteboom wrote:

Micky, you spend so much time with creating new threads, where is your  Hansson & Karlson addition, no time to add this stunning duo? Yes, I know this is not the right place but you have promised to add this duo so many times since many months ago!


I have.... but have been busy with team business... and just really hadn't got to it.  You can add them if you wish... doesn't matter who does really Clap 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2007 at 18:25
Originally posted by heyitsthatguy heyitsthatguy wrote:

I feel like opening a Pandora brand can of worms







Coheed and Cambria




just kidding, but hell, if 3's in crossover, I don't see any reason why they shouldn't be
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I'm wondering why no one asked us to take a look at them.  We would have...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2007 at 18:26
Originally posted by andu andu wrote:

This one is a good thread... There are quite some artists in PR who have done one or more 100% prog albums, but were directed to PR in order to avoid trouble since they're not considered prog artists. Still, theoretically they should be in prog sub-genres, according to the rules...

I'm thinking of Jon Anderson (Olias?.....), Jeff Beck (jazz-rock?), I'm sure there some more.


lots more.... like I said... just curious as to what everyone thinks...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2007 at 18:36
Great thread!  Let's move all of them somewhere...
 
A few suggestions:
 
Oysterhead - Crossover
Black Sabbath - Heavy Prog
Fairport Convention - Prog Folk (and yes, I know that's where they were moved from)
FM - Crossover
Klaatu - Crossover
Iron Maiden - some sort of metal genre - this one just seems silly IMHO
Syd Barrett - psych (ditto)
Bram Stoker - Heavy Prog
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2007 at 18:46
Originally posted by ClemofNazareth ClemofNazareth wrote:

Great thread!  Let's move all of them somewhere...
 
A few suggestions:
 
Oysterhead - Crossover
Black Sabbath - Heavy Prog
Fairport Convention - Prog Folk (and yes, I know that's where they were moved from)
FM - Crossover
Klaatu - Crossover
Iron Maiden - some sort of metal genre - this one just seems silly IMHO
Syd Barrett - psych (ditto)
Bram Stoker - Heavy Prog
 
 


great suggestion Bob....Clap
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2007 at 18:48
Originally posted by Fassbinder Fassbinder wrote:

Peter Sinfield, perhaps?
 
He, himself, is Prog Related... but his album(s) Still(usion) bear(s) some hints of something more Prog than merely Related-ness to it...


I'm not honestly familar with his solo stuff myself ....

I'll look into him...thanks Eugene Clap
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2007 at 18:50
Sorry, folks, but I had to hide some posts here... I believe that the way the conversation was going fits better via PM or at least in the CZ.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2007 at 18:51
yes it would have...LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2007 at 19:21
Originally posted by ClemofNazareth ClemofNazareth wrote:

Great thread!  Let's move all of them somewhere...
 
A few suggestions:
 
Oysterhead - Crossover
Black Sabbath - Heavy Prog
Fairport Convention - Prog Folk (and yes, I know that's where they were moved from)
FM - Crossover
Klaatu - Crossover
Iron Maiden - some sort of metal genre - this one just seems silly IMHO
Syd Barrett - psych (ditto)
Bram Stoker - Heavy Prog
 
 


Wait a second, Claypool's Oysterhead is here but none of his other non Primus projects?  Colonel Claypool's Bucket of Bernie Brains, Les Claypool and the Holy Mackerel, Les Claypool's Frog Brigade, Les Clayool (self titled)?
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2007 at 19:37
Sorry, but I couldn't find any artists in PR who should be moved out.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2007 at 02:04
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by ClemofNazareth ClemofNazareth wrote:

Great thread!  Let's move all of them somewhere...
 
A few suggestions:
 
Oysterhead - Crossover
Black Sabbath - Heavy Prog
Fairport Convention - Prog Folk (and yes, I know that's where they were moved from)
FM - Crossover
Klaatu - Crossover
Iron Maiden - some sort of metal genre - this one just seems silly IMHO
Syd Barrett - psych (ditto)
Bram Stoker - Heavy Prog
 
 


great suggestion Bob....Clap


You forgot one act that is in Proto-Prog, but which would fit Heavy Prog to a T.... A British band formed in the late '60 and still active nowadays, famous for its many line-up changes and for having created one of the seminal rock riffs. They had  a hell of a Hammond organ player, and at least four of their albums are prog - not to mention the numerous references to our beloved genre in many of the following albums.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2007 at 02:41
I agree Black Sabbath - Heavy
and Alan Parson's Project -Crossover


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