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Topic: suggestions.... groups to be moved OUT of Posted: November 16 2007 at 16:46 |
just curious as to everyones thoughts...
as we noted in the PR thread.. there exists here a severe amount of
confusion as to the nature of P-R. In my time here... I have seen
full prog groups added there for lack of a sub-genre that
matches there music exactly, with no sense of 'best fit' so they
would be dumped into PR. There are many groups presently in PR
that did
prog albums.. but are not 'thought' of as prog groups. Since this
site is about prog music... not a career overview site like
Allmusic. It should be the prog that is important..
Moving groups out, is not exactly a priority of the genre teams. .since
we are bombarded with new suggestions for addtion, those that
come through the Band Submissions Team, threads here, our fellow
collabs directly, or of course our our explorations. However I am
curious and would like to involve the general forum.. .what groups
currently in PR do you think should be moved to other sub-genres.. and
which ones.
Edited by micky - November 16 2007 at 17:47
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Logan
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Posted: November 16 2007 at 16:56 |
Alan Parson's Project to symph, or crossover due to the later albums (the first two are suitable for prog, and there still progosity after that).
Wishbone Ash should be moved... I think Phish could be moved too... Ah, sorry, will complete this later.
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Posted: November 16 2007 at 16:59 |
Peter Sinfield, perhaps?
He, himself, is Prog Related... but his album(s) Still(usion) bear(s) some hints of something more Prog than merely Related-ness to it...
Edited by Fassbinder - November 16 2007 at 18:08
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micky
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Posted: November 16 2007 at 17:00 |
we've talked about APP to Xover... but that is still under discussion..
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Posted: November 16 2007 at 17:55 |
I know I failed to deliver a promise about this, but I still support the initial idea: Crossover needs Rick Wright!
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Posted: November 16 2007 at 17:58 |
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Posted: November 16 2007 at 18:13 |
I feel like opening a Pandora brand can of worms
Coheed and Cambria
just kidding, but hell, if 3's in crossover, I don't see any reason why they shouldn't be my 2 cents which are now equal to 1.6 Canadian cents
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andu
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Posted: November 16 2007 at 18:18 |
This one is a good thread... There are quite some artists in PR who have done one or more 100% prog albums, but were directed to PR in order to avoid trouble since they're not considered prog artists. Still, theoretically they should be in prog sub-genres, according to the rules...
I'm thinking of Jon Anderson (Olias?.....), Jeff Beck (jazz-rock?), I'm sure there some more.
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Posted: November 16 2007 at 18:23 |
erik neuteboom wrote:
Micky, you spend so much time with creating new
threads, where is your Hansson & Karlson addition, no time to
add this stunning duo? Yes, I know this is not the right place but you
have promised to add this duo so many times since many months
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I have.... but have been busy with team business... and just really
hadn't got to it. You can add them if you wish... doesn't matter
who does really
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Posted: November 16 2007 at 18:25 |
heyitsthatguy wrote:
I feel like opening a Pandora brand can of worms
Coheed and Cambria
just kidding, but hell, if 3's in crossover, I don't see any reason why they shouldn't be my 2 cents which are now equal to 1.6 Canadian cents
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I'm wondering why no one asked us to take a look at them. We would have...
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micky
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Posted: November 16 2007 at 18:26 |
andu wrote:
This one is a good thread... There are quite some artists
in PR who have done one or more 100% prog albums, but were directed to
PR in order to avoid trouble since they're not considered prog artists.
Still, theoretically they should be in prog sub-genres, according to
the rules...
I'm thinking of Jon Anderson (Olias?.....), Jeff Beck (jazz-rock?), I'm sure there some more.
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lots more.... like I said... just curious as to what everyone thinks...
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Posted: November 16 2007 at 18:36 |
Great thread! Let's move all of them somewhere...
A few suggestions:
Oysterhead - Crossover
Black Sabbath - Heavy Prog
Fairport Convention - Prog Folk (and yes, I know that's where they were moved from)
FM - Crossover
Klaatu - Crossover
Iron Maiden - some sort of metal genre - this one just seems silly IMHO
Syd Barrett - psych (ditto)
Bram Stoker - Heavy Prog
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Posted: November 16 2007 at 18:46 |
ClemofNazareth wrote:
Great thread! Let's move all of them somewhere...
A few suggestions:
Oysterhead - Crossover
Black Sabbath - Heavy Prog
Fairport Convention - Prog Folk (and yes, I know that's where they were moved from)
FM - Crossover
Klaatu - Crossover
Iron Maiden - some sort of metal genre - this one just seems silly IMHO
Syd Barrett - psych (ditto)
Bram Stoker - Heavy Prog
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great suggestion Bob....
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Posted: November 16 2007 at 18:48 |
Fassbinder wrote:
Peter Sinfield, perhaps?
He, himself, is Prog Related... but his album(s) Still(usion) bear(s) some hints of something more Prog than merely Related-ness to it... |
I'm not honestly familar with his solo stuff myself ....
I'll look into him...thanks Eugene
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Posted: November 16 2007 at 18:50 |
Sorry, folks, but I had to hide some posts here... I believe that the way the conversation was going fits better via PM or at least in the CZ.
Thanks!
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micky
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Posted: November 16 2007 at 18:51 |
yes it would have...
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Posted: November 16 2007 at 19:21 |
ClemofNazareth wrote:
Great thread! Let's move all of them somewhere...
A few suggestions:
Oysterhead - Crossover
Black Sabbath - Heavy Prog
Fairport Convention - Prog Folk (and yes, I know that's where they were moved from)
FM - Crossover
Klaatu - Crossover
Iron Maiden - some sort of metal genre - this one just seems silly IMHO
Syd Barrett - psych (ditto)
Bram Stoker - Heavy Prog
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Wait a second, Claypool's Oysterhead is here but none of his other non Primus projects? Colonel Claypool's Bucket of Bernie Brains, Les Claypool and the Holy Mackerel, Les Claypool's Frog Brigade, Les Clayool (self titled)?
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Posted: November 16 2007 at 19:37 |
Sorry, but I couldn't find any artists in PR who should be moved out.
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Posted: November 17 2007 at 02:04 |
micky wrote:
ClemofNazareth wrote:
Great thread! Let's move all of them somewhere...
A few suggestions:
Oysterhead - Crossover
Black Sabbath - Heavy Prog
Fairport Convention - Prog Folk (and yes, I know that's where they were moved from)
FM - Crossover
Klaatu - Crossover
Iron Maiden - some sort of metal genre - this one just seems silly IMHO
Syd Barrett - psych (ditto)
Bram Stoker - Heavy Prog
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great suggestion Bob....
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You forgot one act that is in Proto-Prog, but which would fit Heavy Prog to a T.... A British band formed in the late '60 and still active nowadays, famous for its many line-up changes and for having created one of the seminal rock riffs. They had a hell of a Hammond organ player, and at least four of their albums are prog - not to mention the numerous references to our beloved genre in many of the following albums. Did you guess?
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Posted: November 17 2007 at 02:41 |
I agree Black Sabbath - Heavy and Alan Parson's Project -Crossover
Edited by Cheesecakemouse - November 17 2007 at 02:42
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