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Jim Garten
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Posted: October 22 2007 at 12:42 |
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Jon Lord 1941 - 2012
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Man Erg
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Posted: October 22 2007 at 12:42 |
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Do 'The Stanley' otherwise I'll thrash you with some rhubarb.
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Dean
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Posted: October 22 2007 at 12:42 |
Jim Garten wrote:
Reminds me of when Noddy Holder was asked if he'd like a kipper tie - he replied "yes please, two sugars"*
*note - this only makes sense if read in a broad Wolverhampton accent... |
I'll get my misses to read it out to me then
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: October 22 2007 at 12:42 |
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Man Erg
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Posted: October 22 2007 at 12:45 |
Now then.We don't want Tranny and Boozeanna seeing this do we?
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: October 22 2007 at 12:47 |
I think it's more of a case for Trisha.
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sleeper
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Posted: October 22 2007 at 12:59 |
Jim Garten wrote:
Reminds me of when Noddy Holder was asked if he'd like a kipper tie - he replied "yes please, two sugars"*
*note - this only makes sense if read in a broad Wolverhampton accent... |
AT LAST, someone who understands that a black country accent isnt found in Birmingham!
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Dean
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Posted: October 22 2007 at 13:05 |
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Syzygy
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Posted: November 13 2007 at 17:14 |
South West Trains are a bunch of incompetent who couldn't organise the traffic on an uninhabited Scottish island. here is the main body of an email I sent the ing s a few minutes ago:
I boarded the 20.27 train for Strawberry Hill. The guard announced that there would be a delay because of a missing member of staff, and recommended that passengers join the Guildford train. Shortly after this he recommended that passengers for Raynes Park join the Hampton Court train, which I did. A couple of minutes later the guard on the Hampton Court train announced that the train was delayed because of a missing member of staff, and recommended that passengers run back to the Strawberry Hill train, which I did, only just managing to squeeze through the doors as they tried to eat my briefcase. None of this - neither the delays (approximately 15 minutes) nor the reason for them is posted on your website. Nobody at Waterloo seemed to know what was happening, unless getting commuters to jog between platforms 1 and 4 is now part of the job description for your guards, and no clear information was available on any of the dot matrix displays or via the guard's announcements (although, to be fair, we were given numerous warnings about the possibility of beggars boarding the train).
It's pretty obvious that some problems were being experienced, but given the enormous public subsidy received by South West Trains, plus my own £1632 per annum contribution, perhaps somebody can dream up a contingency plan, brief the staff accordingly and maybe use some of your communications technology to make sure that there are regular updates. I doubt that the problems were unprecedented in the history of rail travel, and given your company's ability to mobilise a small army of ticket inspectors every morning I find the lack of staff available a bit baffling.
I use your service to commute to work. There is no realistic alternative way for me to travel, so I can hardly threaten to take my custom elsewhere. Incidents like this are a regular occurrence, which is inevitable on such a crowded network. What is not inevitable is the incompetence and lack of clear direction on any occasion when there is a minor glitch; having lived in Japan for several years I have seen that a busy urban rail network can run smoothly, even when earthquakes and flooding in the typhoon season are occupational hazards.
Please, if you reply to this, bear in mind that I am not complaining about the delay itself, but rather the way that the problem was dealt with and your heavily subsidised company's failure to manage the situation in a manner that would minimise inconvenience for your paying customers.
Or am I being unreasonable?
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: November 13 2007 at 22:03 |
No, you're being perfectly frank and honest. Great letter!
I do suspect though, that:
a) the two missing staff members were one and the same b) or the two missing staff members did not exist in the first place
Good luck with that, I wouldn't hold your breath for a decent reply though (but you probably already know that). If you do get a reply, it will be written by the 15 year old work experience person, who they will use as a scapegoat, for such circumstances.
Let's hope that isn't the case.
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Wilcey
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Posted: November 14 2007 at 03:06 |
Syzygy wrote:
I boarded the 20.27 train for Strawberry Hill...... |
Wow Syz, no yuu are NOT being unreasonable! not at all........ i remember forking out for my yearly season ticket when I worked in London, and you are right it would not have hurt quite so much if each daily commute wasn't such a frikkin pantomime, or at least if there was someone on hand to explain the plot!
Japan huh?
PCx
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stonebeard
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Posted: November 14 2007 at 03:10 |
I've never even been on a train.
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Jim Garten
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Posted: November 14 2007 at 03:15 |
I blame the decline in steam locomotion - you wouldn't have got this problem when every passenger train was pulled by one of those behemoths; driver & fireman on the plate & a guard with a flag & regulation whistle; just walk firmly through the wall to platform 9 3/4 & board the express to school at the beginning of every term, bypassing Trevor Howard trying to get off as usual with that posh bit of totty, lean out of the window & wave at a young beskirted Jenny Agutter (wondering why you're having such curious stirrings in your nether regions) & wonder why Tony Curtis and Jack Lemmon appear to be dressed as ladies...
...now that was rail travel.
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Wilcey
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Posted: November 14 2007 at 03:18 |
ah........... Trevor Howard, I spent half my youth standing on railway platforms pretending to have something in my eye............. it's a ploy that I think was only ever going to work the once !
and Stonie...... gawd blimey, you don't know what yer missin!
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Man Erg
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Posted: November 14 2007 at 03:35 |
I'm always worried when I see Miss Marple and/or Hercule Poirot on the train. You know that something is in the offing and that's not including the sandwiches.
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Do 'The Stanley' otherwise I'll thrash you with some rhubarb.
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Jim Garten
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Posted: November 14 2007 at 03:39 |
If I ever see little fat Belgians on the train with a waxed moustache & a supercilious expression, I always tend to punch them in the face for their creator's crimes against literature...
...they don't like me in Brussels.
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Man Erg
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Posted: November 14 2007 at 03:44 |
Jim Garten wrote:
If I ever see little fat Belgians on the train with a waxed moustache & a supercilious expression, I always tend to punch them in the face for their creator's crimes against literature...
...they don't like me in Brussels. |
But they do brew exceedingly good beer...except that cherry stuff...Yuck! It tastes like linctus.
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Do 'The Stanley' otherwise I'll thrash you with some rhubarb.
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Jared
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Posted: November 14 2007 at 04:03 |
Syzygy wrote:
plus my own £1632 per annum contribution |
That is, I have to say, absolutely shocking...as it consititutes slightly more than 2 months salary for me... ...seriously, I find that utterly incredulous....
Thank God I live in my place of work.....
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Man Erg
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Posted: November 14 2007 at 05:16 |
fandango wrote:
Syzygy wrote:
<FONT face=Calibri size=3> plus my own £1632 per annum contribution |
That is, I have to say, absolutely shocking...as it consititutes slightly more than 2 months salary for me... ...seriously, I find that utterly incredulous....
Thank God I live in my place of work..... |
If you think that's extortionate;I live not far from Chris but I am one station outside the London Outer Zone 6.I had to pay an eye watering £1,944 last January.It will probably exceed £2,000 next January.
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Jared
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Posted: November 14 2007 at 06:08 |
Lee...I've just gone and got my last monthly paypacket... £785.44 net.
I think this MUST highlight the growing divide between the cost of living in London, compared with the shires....
...the was an outcry here recently, when the bus fare into Hereford rose from £2.95 to £3.10 for a 21 mile journey (owing to a reduction in govt subsidisation....)
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Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
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