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Poll Question: Which band is worthy of inclusion as the 8th great prog rock band?
Poll Choice Votes Poll Statistics
3 [2.59%]
0 [0.00%]
9 [7.76%]
29 [25.00%]
19 [16.38%]
3 [2.59%]
2 [1.72%]
11 [9.48%]
1 [0.86%]
9 [7.76%]
26 [22.41%]
2 [1.72%]
2 [1.72%]
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 04 2007 at 15:42
Gentle Giant by far, they should replace Rush in fact. Rush have even said that they have been influenced by GG. Why the hell is VDGG in the lead? They're ok but they meander way to much and aren't memorable at all. Whatever, more people vote for GG, I would think that people on this site would realize that they are the best choice. I love Camel, but they were heavily influenced by many of the bands on the list, especially Pink Floyd, so to put them on the same list as their influences would be ridiculous. Frank Zappa would have to be my second choice, likely for obvious reasons.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 04 2007 at 14:10
Zappa.



What a legend.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 04 2007 at 13:58
Originally posted by Hercules Hercules wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

not sure what the 13 people who voted for Camel were thinking...  no where in the same league.. musically.. or in importance.. or in abiltiy to be seen outside of the world of prog ..which is important to transcend if you want to be on that list.


You are entitled to your opinion, however wrong it is. Genesis 78 Camel 74 in the "which do you prefer poll"; I can't imagine any other band on the list achieving near parity with Genesis. That alone should be a compelling reason why Camel should be in the big 8.



hahahhahahha  oh that is one hell of a reason right there... history and common sense be damned LOL

hmmm...

first off... when talking popularity.. there are no right or wrong answers..  and yet again.. interesting  questions and polls like this because yet another  variation of the some old sh*t that passes for popularity polls.

now ... for the way I answered the question....

can you honestly say that Camel was as important as Zappa  and defined prog in the manner Zappa did.. or had anywhere near the career  he did.

If so.. I'd love to hear how ....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 04 2007 at 13:47
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

not sure what the 13 people who voted for Camel were thinking...  no where in the same league.. musically.. or in importance.. or in abiltiy to be seen outside of the world of prog ..which is important to transcend if you want to be on that list.


You are entitled to your opinion, however wrong it is. Genesis 78 Camel 74 in the "which do you prefer poll"; I can't imagine any other band on the list achieving near parity with Genesis. That alone should be a compelling reason why Camel should be in the big 8.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 04 2007 at 13:36

Everyone on this topic should be ashamed of themselves......KANSAS......KANSAS...........KANSAS.................

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 04 2007 at 13:10
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 04 2007 at 13:08
not sure what the 13 people who voted for Camel were thinking...  no where in the same league.. musically.. or in importance.. or in abiltiy to be seen outside of the world of prog ..which is important to transcend if you want to be on that list.


Zappa. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 04 2007 at 13:04
To me, Zappa is already on the list. The man was, to be blunt, a genius musician. Let his memory never be tarnished.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 04 2007 at 12:59
Originally posted by schizoid_man77 schizoid_man77 wrote:

Well, the big seven are the ones who paved the way for prog in popularity in the 70's. Besides Zappa, none of these bnds made lasting hits, or was big on the scale that the original big seven were.
 
So, I will choose Zappa, the only one who comes near my definition.
 
You must not have noticed that the Moodies were on there.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 04 2007 at 12:55
It's got to be Van der Graaf Generator. They've not made a bad album yet, and their music is so musically interesting. They have a way of painting pictures with music, the only other bands I have heard do that are the other "Big 7" you mentioned
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 04 2007 at 12:35
Originally posted by schizoid_man77 schizoid_man77 wrote:

Well, the big seven are the ones who paved the way for prog in popularity in the 70's. Besides Zappa, none of these bnds made lasting hits, or was big on the scale that the original big seven were.
 
So, I will choose Zappa, the only one who comes near my definition.
 
because popular = good amirite
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 04 2007 at 12:34
Well, the big seven are the ones who paved the way for prog in popularity in the 70's. Besides Zappa, none of these bnds made lasting hits, or was big on the scale that the original big seven were.
 
So, I will choose Zappa, the only one who comes near my definition.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 04 2007 at 12:27
Interesting question...
 
Camel. This band made some of the most beautiful music of all time, so their greatness is without question.
 
But then... could we kick Rush out and change it for VDGG? Hammill and co. were darkest and deepest prog band. And they still shine!
 
Marillion would also deserve their place, but I think "big 7" (or 8) is an "old prog" community. And "new prog" should have it's own!!! 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 04 2007 at 11:41
I would say Camel more than Gentle Giant and VDGG, cause they had some mainstream success
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 04 2007 at 11:18
Originally posted by ProgBagel ProgBagel wrote:

Iron Maiden, not dissing their music or anything, certainly shouldn't belong in the poll. Were are talking about the giants that stand next to Genesis, Yes and Floyd.


As big a Maiden fan as I am, I do agree 100% with the above statement. IM were certainly influenced by prog, and were a big influence in the development of Prog Metal, but here we're talking about Classic Prog, and they don't belong to that category. Perhaps, after this post, some people here will realise I am not a fangirlWink....

Back to the topic at hand, I voted Caravan, who deserve much more credit as prog greats than they get. I'd also put Gentle Giant almost at the same level, because of their authentic progressive spirit and outstanding musicianship.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 04 2007 at 11:18
ghost_of_morphy wrote:
"Magma:  So influential that they defined their own sub-genre of prog."
 
And I vote for Magma proper for this motive!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 04 2007 at 11:11
I'd go with Gentle Giant and feel guilty about leaving out PFM. Can we make it a 9?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 04 2007 at 11:08
Originally posted by ghost_of_morphy ghost_of_morphy wrote:

 

Yes
Genesis
King Crimson
Jethro Tull
Emerson, Lake and Palmer
Rush
Pink Floyd

Van der Graaf Generator...only band that had the decency not to sell out, release crap, etc...they recorded 7 progressive albums to Rush's handful
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 04 2007 at 10:14
Has to be Camel as a great, I love Gentle Giant and there music is just brilliant but there not on of the big prog bands really. Same for Iron Maiden, like the music but not a big prog band (there just big on the metal side). Has to be Camel.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 04 2007 at 10:04
Camel.

Many of the others (Moodies, Mike Oldfield, Marillion) achieved more commercial success but none came near the level of critical success Camel achieved in the middle 70s. They sold far more albums than VDGG (who never really were considered much good in the 70s and had a small cult following at best; I went to university from 1972-5 and noone I knew (a lot of people!) had a single VDGG album, whereas almost everyone owned the first 3 Camel albums).

Gentle Giant would be my second choice; they were always popular at a below-the-radar level.
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