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    Posted: October 28 2007 at 02:45

SEE IF YOU AGREE

FIRST PROTO PROG ALBUM- FREAK OUT
FIRST INDIAN PROG SONG- LOVE YOU TO
FIRST PROTO -PROG PSYCHEDELIC SONG- TOMORROW NEVER KNOWS
FIRST PROTO-PROG HIT - STRAWBERRY FIELDS FORVER
FIRST PROTO PROG  NUMBER ONE ALBUM- REVOLVER
FIRST CONCEPT ALBUM- FREAK OUT
FIRST ART ROCK SONG- ELEANOR RIGBY
FIRST SYMPHONIC PROG SONG- STRAWBERRY FIELDS FOREVER
FIRST SYMPHONIC PROG ALBUM- DAYS OF FUTURE PASSED
FIRST SONG IN MIXED METER TO GO NUMBER ONE- ALL YOU NEED IS LOVE
FIRST SPACE ROCK ALBUM- PIPERS AT THE GATES OF DAWN
MOST INFLUENTIAL PROTO- PROG ARTIST- THE BEATLES
THE BEST PROTO PROG ARTIST- PINK FLOYD
FIRST FUSION ROCK SONG- TOMORROW NEVER KNOWS
 
 
 
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Points: 22 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 28 2007 at 15:01
Interesting list. It's my opinion that the Beatles use of Indian and Avant music with Psychedelic music was a major reason for the devolopment of progressive rock. Others took that example and perfected it like Pink Floyd and King Crimson. On this list I would add backward instrumentation and mellotron.
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Points: 16449 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 28 2007 at 15:12
Pink Floyd arent Proto- prog but full blown prog.

Dont know enough to comment on the rest of the list I'm affraid.
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Points: 2755 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 28 2007 at 19:41
While I disagree with just about everything else on this list, you got this one right.  
Originally posted by Beckham Beckham wrote:

FIRST SYMPHONIC PROG ALBUM- DAYS OF FUTURE PASSED
 
Don't listen to what anybody else says on this.   It's you and me against the world here.
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FIRST PROTO PROG ALBUM- FREAK OUT-  No most of it was garage music
FIRST INDIAN PROG SONG- LOVE YOU TO- Yes give me another example then
FIRST PROTO -PROG PSYCHEDELIC SONG- TOMORROW NEVER KNOWS- No this was the one of the  first prog songs if not  the first.
FIRST PROTO-PROG HIT - STRAWBERRY FIELDS FORVER- This was a top ten hit
FIRST PROTO PROG  NUMBER ONE ALBUM- REVOLVER- This was a number one album.
FIRST CONCEPT ALBUM- FREAK OUT- don't know
FIRST ART ROCK SONG- ELEANOR RIGBY- don't know
FIRST SYMPHONIC PROG SONG- STRAWBERRY FIELDS FOREVER- No  A Day in the Life is the better example.
FIRST SYMPHONIC PROG ALBUM- DAYS OF FUTURE PASSED- Yes
FIRST SONG IN MIXED METER TO GO NUMBER ONE- ALL YOU NEED IS LOVE- Yes
FIRST SPACE ROCK ALBUM- PIPERS AT THE GATES OF DAWN- no they were a number of albums that were psychedelic and progressive at the same time.
MOST INFLUENTIAL PROTO- PROG ARTIST- THE BEATLES- Yes no doubt
THE BEST PROTO PROG ARTIST- PINK FLOYD- Yes no doubt
FIRST FUSION ROCK SONG- TOMORROW NEVER KNOWS- I am confused by this term, there is avant, Indian, psychedelic and pop influences. I would call it genre changing.  Progressive Rock or Experimental Rock
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Points: 1751 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 28 2007 at 21:45
I don't think strawberry fields is symphonic enough, actually Frank Zappa's 2nd album Absolutely Free has strong symphonic elements in it.
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Points: 1455 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 28 2007 at 22:34
You are forgetting Procol Harum.  Someone in another thread already mentioned that PH's 1966 release gave inspiration and impetus to anything that came after it...
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Procul Harum first album is from 1967. They formed in 1967,  Whiter Shade of Pale the single was released in May of 1967.  A Whiter Shade of Pale  influenced I Am the Walrus though.  Strawberry Fields Forever after listening to it again is Art rock in my opinion. Who no knows about symphonic prog, ever listen to For No One off Revolver that was classically influenced.
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A decent list, but "The Piper at the Gates of Dawn" isn't really space rock, it's just psychedelic rock, and the first concept album was "Days of Future Passed" by The Moody Blues. It was probably also the first symphonic prog album.


Also, perhaps you could have put:

First Prog-Folk Album: "Trespass" by Genesis. (It DOES have a folky feel, they didn't entirely abandon their folk roots until "Foxtrot")
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Points: 5851 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 30 2007 at 19:30
Originally posted by Sydwaters Sydwaters wrote:

Procul Harum first album is from 1967. They formed in 1967,  Whiter Shade of Pale the single was released in May of 1967.  A Whiter Shade of Pale  influenced I Am the Walrus though.  Strawberry Fields Forever after listening to it again is Art rock in my opinion. Who no knows about symphonic prog, ever listen to For No One off Revolver that was classically influenced.
 
well for correctly "A Whiter Shade Of Pale" is a Gary Brooker solo single with a session man or its precedent band Paramount and attribuited to Procol Harum!!!
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Points: 1008 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 02 2007 at 23:53

I'm sure Blonde on Blonde (May 1966) has to be first prog something or other.

Some pre-Tommy concept albums were -
 
Nirvana - The Story of Simon Simopath 
Pretty Things - SF Sorrow 
Small Faces - Ogden's Nut Gone Flake 
Zombies - Odessey and Oracle 
 
Though their quality was ordinary at best (except for the incomparable SF Sorrow)  .
 
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Points: 1008 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2007 at 00:02
Originally posted by Teh_Slippermenz Teh_Slippermenz wrote:

Also, perhaps you could have put:

First Prog-Folk Album: "Trespass" by Genesis. (It DOES have a folky feel, they didn't entirely abandon their folk roots until "Foxtrot")

 
Fairport Convention and Trees to mention just two were producing what is called Prog-Folk well before Trespass.  These groups were really just re-arranging traditional folk songs.  Very nice but not really progressive by my definition.
 
But there was also the Incredible String Band who produced truly progressive folk music right from their begining in 1966 (another glaring ommission from the prog archive).  In America the Fugs and the Holy Modal Rounders were doing something similar.
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Points: 29 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2007 at 03:47
Here is a list I got from Wikipedia Progressive rock music timeline.
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  • Frank Zappa & The Mothers of Invention - Freak Out! (USA) (1966)
  • The Beatles - Revolver (England) (1966)
  • The Who - A Quick One (England) (1966)
  • The Beatles - Sgt Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (England) (1967)
  • The Doors - Doors (England)
  • Pink Floyd - Piper at the Gates of Dawn (England) (1967)
  • Procol Harum - Procol Harum (England) (1967)
  • The Moody Blues - Days of Future Passed (England) (1967)
  • Soft Machine - Jet Propelled Photographs (England) (1967) - NOTE: Demo Recordings first released 1971 as part of the Rock Generation series by BYG Record - Jet Propelled Photograph was adopted as a title quite some time later
  • The Nice - The Thoughts of Emerlist Davjack (England) (1967)
  • Frank Zappa - Lumpy Gravy (USA) (1967)
  • Frank Zappa & The Mothers of Invention - Absolutely Free (USA) (1967)
  • Captain Beefheart & His Magic Band - Safe As Milk (USA) (1967)
  • The Who - The Who Sell Out (England) (1967)


Edited by Beckham - November 03 2007 at 03:48
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Points: 18292 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2007 at 04:03

Where is Hansson&Karlsson?
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