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    Posted: October 27 2007 at 19:01
This is the case:
You are asked by someone who is new to prog, to exlpain to him what's it about and what best way to do it than let the person listen to it himself.
 
He has asked you to give a list of key albums for each genre and that list needs to be as short as possible, but needs to include the most defining albums and also, to the extent possible, the various styles of this genre, so that he doesn't just hear the same style in several albums.
 
Here's your challenge - compile a list for which genre you want represented here in PA that has:
- key/influential albums
- albums that represent as many possible styles within this genre
 
I give no limit of number of albums per list, but try to be as short and succint. If you can make it a 10 album list, then great; if not, no problem.
 
Remember, those are not necessarily your favourite albums, but albums you think represent best the sound of that particular genre, or a style within that genre.
 
I'll give mine later on.
 
Let the lists begin...
 
 


Edited by avestin - October 27 2007 at 20:04
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2007 at 19:16
I think it would be a good idea to give newbies 2 contrasting albums by each artist.
Right, in me own why...

Symphonic
Genesis-Nursery Cryme
Genesis-Foxtrot
Yes-Relayer
Yes-Close To The Edge
Focus-Focus III
Focus-Moving Waves
Camel-Mirage
Camel-The Snow Goose
Steve Hackett- Spectral Mornings
Steve Hackett- Voyage Of The Acolytes

Jazz/Fusion
Brand X- Masques
Brand X- Macrocosm
Billy Cobham-Spectrum
Billy Cobham-Magic
Mahavishnu Orchestra-Birds of Fire
Mahavishnu Orchestra-The Inner Mounting Flame
Santana-Caravanserai
Santana-Havana Moon
John McLaughlin-Devotion
John Mclaughlin-The Promise

RIO/Avant
Frank Zappa-Zoot Allures
Frank Zappa-The Grand Wazoo
Captain Beefheart-Trout Mask Replica
Captain Beefheart- Safe As Milk
John Zorn-Locus Solus
John Zorn-Naked City
Mr.Bungle-Mr.Bungle
Mr.Bungle-Disco Valante
PPOTU-1997
PPOTU- Ach To Statu Hanobeni



Edited by cynthiasmallet - October 27 2007 at 19:18
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2007 at 19:24
Originally posted by avestin avestin wrote:

This is the case:
You are asked by someone who is new to prog, to exlpain to him what's it about and what best way to do it than let the person listen to it himself.
 
He has asked you to give a list of key albums for each genre and that list needs to be as short as possible, but needs to include the most defining albums and also, to the extent possible, the various styles of this genre, so that he doesn't just hear the same style in several albums.
 
Here's your challenge - compile a list for which genre you want represented here in PA that has:
- key/influential albums
- albums that represent as many possible styles within this genre
 
I give no limit of number of albums per list, but try to be as short and succint. If you can make it a 10 album list, then great; if not, no problem.
 
I'll give mine later on.
 
Let the lists begin...
 
 


interesting idea Assaf.... I'll take a stab at it while I watch Colorado butcher the Sox tonight LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2007 at 19:29
@ cynthiasmallet - interesting idea, helps see the diversity of one band/musician.
@ Micky - I'll look forward to it (especially your guide to RPI...).
 
I'll also prepare mine later.
 
Feel free to do which genre you like.
 
I am very interested to read all your thoughts about this, so please share. Smile
 
 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2007 at 19:37
I will Assaf...  heading out to Subway to get my 3 three foot longs for $12 bucks and then I'll start on a list.  LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2007 at 19:38

I dont have enough albums to quite make a list, but will soon.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2007 at 19:39
Originally posted by schizoid_man77 schizoid_man77 wrote:

I dont have enough albums to quite make a list, but will soon.

 
Then just based on what you know, it's fine. Smile
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2007 at 20:00
Good, good... Im just gonna make one album per band

Symphonic prog
  • Close to the edge - Yes
  • Foxtrot - Genesis
  • Scheherezade and other stories - Renaissance
  • Si on avait... - Harmonium
  • Cornostipicum - MIA
Eclectic prog
  • Lark´s tongue in aspic - King Crimson (In the court is better, but Larks is a better eclectic representative)
  • Still Life - VDGG
  • Movin on - Circus
  • Octopus - Gentle Giant
  • Anabelas - Bubu
Experimental/Post metal
  • Lateralus - Tool
  • Blackwater park - Opeth
  • Omnio - In the Woods...
  • Terria - Devin Townsend
  • Aleternative 4 - Anathema
Tech/Extreme metal
  • Unexpect - In a flesh aquarium
  • I - Meshuggah
  • Sol niger within - Fredik Thordendal´s Special defects
  • Crimson - Edge of Sanity
  • Focus - Cynic
Avant/Rio
  • Hot rats - Frank Zappa
  • Huono Parturi - Höyre Kone
  • Of natural history - Sleepytime Gorilla Museum
  • Western culture - Henry Cow
  • Disco Volante - Mr Bungle

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2007 at 20:12
Canterbury:
 
Caravan - In the Land of Grey and Pink
Soft Machine - Two
Soft Machine - Floating World Live
Hatfield and the North - Rotter's Club
Bruford - Feels Good to Me (Not listed on this site as Canterbury, but I have always considered the three Bruford albums to be)
Egg - Egg
Gong - Angel's Egg
Robert Wyatt - Rock Bottom
Matching Mole - S/T
Steve Hillage - Fish Rising
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2007 at 20:35
RPI.... and sorry for the length...  rules are for kids.. LOL

only one album per group. No order, other than the 'big 5' get top billing hahhah.

1.   PFM - Per Un Amico
2.   Banco - Io sono nato libero
3.   Le Orme - Uomo di Pezza
4.   Osanna - Palepoli
5.   Area - Crac
6.   Balleto di Bronzo - Ys
7.   Museo Rosenbach - Zarathrustra
8.   Locanda Delle Fate - Forse le lucciole non si amano più
9.   I Gigante - Terra in bocca
10. Delirium - Dolce acqua
11. Jumbo - Vieato ai minori di anni 18?
12. Franco Battiato - Clic
13. Jacula - In cauda semper stat venenum
14. Formula 3 - Sognando e risognando
15. Gobin - Roller
16. St. Just - s/t
17. The Trip - Atlantide
18. Il Volo - Essere o non essere?
19. Garybaldi- Nuda
20. Metamorfosi - Inferno
21. Raccomandata con ricevuta di ritorno - Per....un mondo di cristallo
22. Quella Vecchia Locanda - s/t
23. De De Lind - Io non so da dove vengo
24. New Trolls - Concerto Grosso n.1
25. Pholas Dactylus - Concerto delle menti
26. Alan Sorrenti - Aria
27. Riccardo Zappa - Celestron
28. Celeste - Principe di giorno
29. Arti e mestieri - Tilt
30. Biglietto per l'inferno - s/t
31. Cherry Five - s/t
32. RDM - Contaminazione
33. Osage Tribe - Arrowhead
34. Ibis - Sun Supreme
35. Pierrot Lunaire - Gudrun
36. Semaramis - Dedicato a  frazz
37. Juri Camisasca - La finestra dentro
38. Murple - Io sono murple
39. Antonius Rex - Ralefun
40. Maxophone - s/t
41. Rustichelli e Bordini - Opera Prima
42. Latte e Miele - Papillon
43. Cervello - Melos
44. I Califfi - Fiore di metallo
45. Acqua Fragile - Mass media stars
46. Panna Freeda - Uno
47.Il Baricentro - Trusciant
48. Ivano Fossati - Il grande mare che avremmo traversato
49. Riccardo Cocciante - MU
50. I Pooh - Parsifal LOL Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2007 at 22:36
Prog-metal (all subgenres included)

1. Queensryche - Operation Mindcrime
2. Fates Warning - A pleasant shade of gray
3. Dream Theater - Images and words
4. Pain of Salvation - The perfect element
5. Opeth - Blackwater park
6. Tool - Lateralus
7. Psychotic Waltz - Into the everflow
8. Watchtower - Control and resistance
9. Anathema - Eternity
10. Shadow Gallery - Tyranny
11. Symphony X - The divine wings of tragedy

there, I made you a football teamSmile

I know it's more of 'classic' progressive metal, but that would be my recommendation
also these represent personal favourites, among others
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2007 at 22:38
Forgot to mention: great thread avestinClap
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 28 2007 at 00:22

what the hey it's a Saturday night and, surprise surprise, I've got nothing to doDisapprove let's giver 'er a shot.

 
Symphonic (and related)  warning - I'm not very original here
 
Genesis - Selling England by the Pound
King Crimson - In the Court of the Crimson King
Yes - Close to the Edge
Jethro Tull - Thick as a Brick
Van der Graaf Generator - Godbluff
Bacamarte - Depois do Fim
Camel - Moonmadness
After Crying - Overground Music
Kansas - Song for America
Renaissance - Scherherazade and Other Stories
Emerson, Lake, and Palmer - s/t
 
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 28 2007 at 00:26
Jazz-Rock and Fusion
 
Mahavishnu Orchestra - Inner Mounting Flame
Colosseum - Valentyne Suite
Frank Zappa - Hot Rats
Dixie Dregs - What If
Return to Forever - Romantic Warrior
Billy Cobham - Spectrum
Al di Meola - Elegant Gypsy
Leb I Sol - II
Herbie Hancock - Head Hunters
Bill Bruford - One of a Kind
Wigwam - Being
 
 
 
oh, I almost forgot....good thread AssafSmile, I'll look forward to your comprehensive listsWink


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 28 2007 at 00:43

okay, now for the motherload...even though micky's pretty much covered ALL of itLOL

 
Rock Progressivo Italiano!!
 
first let me say that this is such a broad category that I've gone well over 10, and could have very well kept going, but that would be losing the objective here.  So here we are, as concise as I could be while covering all bases and roughly in order for newcomers...
 
PFM - Storia di un Minuto
Banco del Mutuo Soccorso - Io Sono Nato Libero
Area - Arbeit Macht Frei
Le Orme - Felona e Sorona
RDM - Contaminazione (or substitute New Trolls and you've got "ba-rock" covered)
Celeste - s/t (this one here's my fave RPI album...just gorgeous)
Il Biglietto per L'Inferno - s/t
Alphataurus - s/t
Jacula - Tardo Pede in Magiam Versus
La Locanda delle Fate - Forse le Lucciole Non si Amon Piu
 
at this point, you would want to make sure you have all of the big boys covered...ie. all of PFM, Area, Le Orme and Banco's albums, then proceed...
 
Metamorphosi - Inferno
Arti e Mestieri - Tilt
Quella Vecchia Locanda - s/t
Alan Sorrenti - Aria
Il Volo - Essere o Non Essere?
Riccardo Zappa - Celestion
I Giganti - Terra in Bocca
Osanna - L'Uomo
Ibis - Sun Supreme
RRR - Per...un Mondo di Cristallo
Buon Vecchio Charlie - s/t
Rustichelli & Bordini - Opera Prima
Delirium - Dolce Acgua
 
 
there's so many styles in RPI that it takes many albums to cover, and in this case there are still tons I left out.
 
 
Cheers


Edited by jimmy_row - October 28 2007 at 00:44
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 28 2007 at 01:52
Well....I don't know THAT many prog artists so I'll try to make do with the ones that I've heard.

Symphonic:
Foxtrot - Genesis
Close to the Edge - Yes
Tales from Topographic Oceans - Yes
A Song for All Seasons - Renaissance
Going for the One - Yes
Selling England by the Pound - Genesis

Neo-Prog:
A Trick of the Tail - Genesis
Misplaced Childhood - Marillion (not a fan of Fish, but I've heard selections from this album so I know it's one of the key Neo-Progressive Rock albums)
Script for a Jester's Tear - Marillion


Psychedelic\Space Rock:
The Dark Side of the Moon - Pink Floyd
A Saucerful of Secrets - Pink Floyd
The Wall - Pink Floyd               Side note: Pink Floyd's all I know here. LOL

Prog Folk:
Aqualung - Jehtro Tull
Songs from the Wood - Jethro Tull
Trespass - Genesis (wouldn't this be progressive folk? Except for "The Knife", which would be like heavy prog I guess, the album sure sounds like it's prog folk)


Electronic Prog:
The Man-Machine - Kraftwerk
Electric Cafe - Kraftwerk
Autobahn - Kraftwerk
Rubycon - Tangerine Dream
Phaedra - Tangerine Dream
Zeit - Tangerine Dream


Eclectic Prog:
In the Court of the Crimson King - King Crimson
Larks' Tongues in Aspic - King Crimson

Prog Metal:

Scenes from a Memory Metropolis Part II - Dream Theater


There. That's all I can muster.





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I am changing this but being in a band I am using my main influences.

REVOLVER- PROTO-PROG/ EXPERIMENTAL ROCK/ INDIAN PROG
FREAK OUT- PROTO-PROG-EXPERIMENTAL ROCK
MAGICAL MYSTERY TOUR- SPACE ROCK/ ART ROCK/ EXPERIMENTAL ROCK/ PROTO-PROG
PIPERS AT THE GATES OF DAWN- PROTO PROG/ SPACE ROCK/ EXPERIMENTAL ROCK
ABBEY ROAD- PROGRESSIVE ROCK/ ART ROCK/ SYMPHONIC PROG
YES- PROGRESSIVE ROCK/ ART ROCK
IN THE COURT OF THE CRIMSON KING- PROGRESSIVE ROCK/ EXPERIMENTAL ROCK/ ART ROCK


Edited by Beckham - October 28 2007 at 02:13
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 28 2007 at 02:15
Though I would whip one up for my favourite sub-genre... Zeuhl. One album per band.

1.   Magma - Kohntarkosz
2.   Dun - Eros
3.   Eider Stellaire - I
4.   Eskaton - 4 Visions
5.   Happy Family - Toscco
6.   Koenji Hyakkei - Angherr Shisspa
7.   Shub Niggurath - Les Morts Vont Vite
8.   Weidorje - s/t 
9.   Archaia - s/t
10. Bondage Fruit - IV

probably should have added some Zao in their, but I'm not so familiar with their works.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 28 2007 at 07:23
And why not...
 
Crossover Prog: (one album per artist)
 
1 Supertramp - Crime of the Century
2 Talk Talk - Spirit of Eden
3 Mike Oldfleid - Incantations
4 Peter Gabriel - PG3 (Melt)
5 Rick Wright - Broken China (currently PR, but this album and Wet Dreams are XoverStern%20Smile)
6 David Sylvian - Secrets of the Beehive
7 Radiohead - OK Computer
8 Rare Bird - As Your Mind Flies By
9 Moody Blues - Every Good Boy Deserves Favour (my favourite - pick your own Tongue)
10 ELO - ELO2
 
11 Roger Waters - Amused To Death
12 Jeff Wayne - War Of The Worlds
13 Seventh Wave - Things To Come
14 Phideaux - Doomsday Afternoon
15 Gazpacho - Night
16 Trans Siberian Orchestra - Beethoven's Last Stand
17 The Deer Hunter - Act 1: The Lake South, The River North (to be added to Xover soon)
18 Be Bop Deluxe - Futurama
19 Talisma - Cromium
20 Haggard - Awaking The Centuries
 
note: This is not the definative list, just my faves/recommendations of the bands/CDs I've heard, (yep, sorry to admit that I haven't heard every album/artist in my own sub... yetWink) - a better list can be found here: http://www.progarchives.com/top-prog-albums.asp?style_id=3


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 28 2007 at 09:34
Wow, thanks for the lists, I like to see and get to know other perspectives of how a particular style of music sounds to others and what different "subs" comprise it.
I'm still a bit too busy to write a list, but it'll come later.
 
Keep them coming Smile
 
 
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