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    Posted: October 27 2007 at 16:25
Defineatly Hackett over Genesis. At least as a solo artist you get to hear him play!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2007 at 16:21
Originally posted by Vibrationbaby Vibrationbaby wrote:

Originally posted by Ghost Rider Ghost Rider wrote:

If I have to think of one example of an artist I prefer solo rather than with his band, I'd have to take Peter Gabriel. Even though I know it may sound like heresy to many here,  I think his solo output really shows all his potential as a vocalist and as a songwriter. 
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Oh, I forgot Gabriel. Yes some of his solo stuff is very very good for sure, but I don't think he is better than some music he did with Genesis. It's even steven.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2007 at 16:10
Originally posted by darqdean darqdean wrote:

^ another Soft Machine alumnus who has done rather well for himself is of course Karl Jenkins, whose 'The Armed Man - A Mass For Peace' spent something in the order of 200 weeks in the UK Classical charts.


Oh yes, he has done rather well for himself to say the least.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2007 at 12:07
You mention Omar Rodriguez-Lopez as an example in the first post. Here's a nice little story for all of you:

Discovering Omar and Cedric's pre-TMV band At the Drive-In started a revolution in my attitude towards music. Hearing their album In/Casino/Out for the first time blasted open a door in my mind that had been firmly shut for as long as I had listened to music actively. It made me realise that Prog (and a few 70's Rock bands) wasn't "the only objectively good taste in music" or something, it opened me to try any kinds of music regardless of genre. A lot of the music I listen to today is stuff I couldn't have imagined enjoying a year ago. Before At the Drive-In I alienated myself from vast amounts of great music without even knowing what it was, without even thinking about giving it a fair chance, simply because it wasn't Prog. Of course, there aren't too many people calling At the Drive-In Prog either, but I was and still am a big The Mars Volta enthusiast, so I thought "it can't be that bad, if it's with the same guys". As it turned out, it was very different from The Mars Volta, but I enjoyed it tremendously.

Of course, one can't like all music, but I believe in giving things a chance before deciding whether one likes it or not. Avoiding music because it doesn't belong to a certain genre, doesn't fall within one's comfort zone, is a great way to miss out on a lot of great music.

This is probably not the kind of response you expected, but in relation to the topic I can say this: I prefer At the Drive-In to The Mars Volta. Anyway, my post isn't intended as some kind of lecture, it's just me expressing my thoughts. I don't wish to start a debate really.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 26 2007 at 20:56
^ another Soft Machine alumnus who has done rather well for himself is of course Karl Jenkins, whose 'The Armed Man - A Mass For Peace' spent something in the order of 200 weeks in the UK Classical charts.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 26 2007 at 20:37
Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

IMHO Allan Holdsworth has done better as a solo artist than what he did with Soft Machine, Gong, Lifetime, UK, etc. (all of which have highs) - although I think his very best playing come when he is guesting on somebody else's album and playing somebody else's compositions.


Speaking of Soft Machine, I tend to prefer Robert Wyatt's "solo" (I quote solo due to the stellar people he has worked with) work to his Soft Machine and Matching Mole work.  Well, all are great, really, but I have a particular soft spot for the Rock Bottom album.

Daevid Allen is another Soft Machine (and Gong) alumnus that has done good, interesting solo work.  Kevin Ayers, another alumnus of Soft Machine, has done wonderful solo work.  What a talented bunch of people.

Generally, I do prefer the band-work over solo outings, however (though some so-called solo artist albums are really very collaborative efforts -- far beyond e.g. taking on musicians-for-hire).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 26 2007 at 20:27

Almost in every case, I prefer the band's music... in all cases that I can think of (TFk, DT, Genesis, etc...)

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 26 2007 at 19:04
Originally posted by Ghost Rider Ghost Rider wrote:

If I have to think of one example of an artist I prefer solo rather than with his band, I'd have to take Peter Gabriel. Even though I know it may sound like heresy to many here,  I think his solo output really shows all his potential as a vocalist and as a songwriter. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 26 2007 at 18:54
Originally posted by jimmy_row jimmy_row wrote:

Steve Hillage for me.  Many will disagree, but IMO Fish Rising tops his work with GonG, Arzachel, Khan, and the million other bands he was in.

 
I can almost agree, but that's a big choice. Anything Hillage did rocks.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 26 2007 at 18:48
Well I don't know enough different stuff but the music is somtimes compleatly different for example David Gilmour's On an Island is brilliant an I love it but you can't compare it to Pink Floyd as its nothing like it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 26 2007 at 18:29

I like Roxy Music, but I prefer Eno's solo stuff.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 26 2007 at 07:44
For me Steve Hackett is one of the best guitarists in the world! Both on acoustic and electric. I love Hackett, but I also love the earlier works of Genesis.
I prefer Yes, but some of the works of Wakeman and Howe is great as well!

Well, It's hard to compare bands and artists within the bands.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 24 2007 at 14:42

Steve Hillage for me.  Many will disagree, but IMO Fish Rising tops his work with GonG, Arzachel, Khan, and the million other bands he was in.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 24 2007 at 12:28
IMHO Allan Holdsworth has done better as a solo artist than what he did with Soft Machine, Gong, Lifetime, UK, etc. (all of which have highs) - although I think his very best playing come when he is guesting on somebody else's album and playing somebody else's compositions.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 24 2007 at 12:21
Originally posted by Angelo Angelo wrote:

And outside prog, I like Gary Moore's solo works way better than what he did with Skid Row.
 
I feel the opposite (awkward as ever!!), I don't think Gary Moore bettered what he did on Skid Row's 34 Hours.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 23 2007 at 18:14
I would definitely take Devin Townsend over SYL (although The New Black had some stuff that was really reminiscent of his solo work/DTB, which was pretty fantastic).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 23 2007 at 15:00
I would also say in most instances that I prefer the band to the solo artist, although frequently I like the solo artist's output as well.  I really enjoy bands like Dream Theater and The Flower Kings, but I also really enjoy many of their side projects.  Not sure if I would consider a side project as a solo project or not. 
 
Two artists who come to mind where I think that I like their solo work more than their original bands are Ozzy Osbourne and Ronnie James Dio.  But even that is difficult to say since Black Sabbath and Rainbow were both great bands.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 23 2007 at 12:44
the only one I can think of is Devin Townsend vs. Strapping Young Lad, and given the choice, there's no contest to the former


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 23 2007 at 08:28
Surely the band
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 23 2007 at 06:16
Originally posted by fuxi fuxi wrote:

Fascinating question. Most of Yes' early 1970s albums are amazing, but as soon as Bill Bruford's solo career took off, he started recording albums that were consistently more inspired than anything his former band were doing at the same time. FEELS GOOD TO ME and ONE OF A KIND were just the beginning. Earthworks took BB's career to a new level!
You could add Rick Wakeman's "Six Wives"; Jon Anderson's "Olias of Sunhillow"; Chris Squire's "Fish Out Of Water" and some of Steve Howe's solos to that and they are all very worthy albums, but none of those (inc Bruford's solos) surpass "Close To The Edge" or "Relayer" (IMO).
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