Who is The Mars Volta's creative force

In my personal opinion, I find Omar to be the primary creative force in the band.

I always thought Omar was the driving creative force, but I think Cedric's vocals work really well with TMV's music. I haven't heard any of Omar's solo stuff yet; any recommendations?

Omar,  he writes the music and produces the albums, and is apparently a bit of a perfectionist.

Om3r basically writes almost every single part of the Volta's music
his solo stuff has more of a solo oriented kind of Santana-ish slant

I enjoy both but TMV more because it's better songwriting

sleeper wrote: Omar writes the music, Cedric writes the lyrics.

Edited by Moatilliatta - October 22 2007 at 18:40

I like everyone else in the band better than cedric and omar.

Also whoever writes the lyrics needs to be slapped.

Maybe the concept is to get fanboys pondering for hours over what the concept could be about.

At least Cedric's lyrics have developed since At The Drive In though. I mean they're still written in the same vein but sound like they could possibly mean something.

FruMp wrote: yoel? wrote: FruMp wrote: Also whoever writes the lyrics needs to be slapped.   cedric bixler zavala writes the lyrics, and no he doesnt deserve a slap, hes written some of the most obscure, nteresting lyrics around, just becuase you cant understand some of them dont say theyre rubbish, also hes managed to speak across three different languages, and still, no one knows the true concept of frances the mute, thats how mysterious the lyrics are It's not because I can't understand them, it's because no one can understand them, it's thesaurus assisted gibberish, so what if it's obscure? it doesn't make for compelling listening and it doesn't tell an interesting story. The lyrics aren't mysterious - they're incomprehensible and probably deliberately so that people will think it's some kind of ultra-modern masterpiece of linguistic skill. Writing indecipherable lyrics does not take skill, is not unique or creative and is not hard - anyone can do it. When I used to visit the comatorium forums one of my favourite pastimes was making up Mars Volta lyrics, and it's surprisingly easy to create something that no one would be able to tell apart from something Cedric had written for a song.

God forbid you people should learn some new words and be challenged a little bit.  I happen to like his lyrics with "meaning" and "sense" these days being in my eyes highly overrated/reached an apogee of familiarity, false sentiment, and stagnation.   For the most part that is...you know, exceptions to every rule.  Cedric's lyrics hark back to the surrealists, if you're not familiar with their techniques it's your loss I suppose or if you are, then you don't like them, move on. 

I'm rendered much more effusive by music these days without actual words and their "intent" which is fallacious and open to interpretation to begin with getting in the way.  I approach vocals as just another music track...with only slight attention paid to the lyrics; I find most people who cling to "what someone's trying to say" to be problematic to say the least...there is no way to gauge what another is thinking period so they (being the lyrics) can only speak for yourself. 

If you want "meaning" perspicuous or spelled out for you listen to someone far more digestible...that's all...if you want to interpret, think for yourself, be challenged a little bit and not be dismissive when things "don't make sense" then CBZ's lyrics are for you.  

/\ because prog RAWKS

I also personally find humor in occasion in TMV's lyrics, even if its not intended to be so
however, sometimes you just stumble across a line that's just cool for no reason whatsoever


I THINK I FEEL A MISCARRIAGE COMIN ON