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yoel?
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Topic: solo acts and bands Posted: October 22 2007 at 17:39 |
do you find generally that you prefer the solo work of a memeber of a band, or the band itself
for example, steve hackett or genesis, petrucci or dream theater, omar or the volta, robert fripp or crimson thom yorke or radiohead?
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Run Home Slow
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Posted: October 22 2007 at 17:51 |
Hello, usually i prefer the band, but they are cases like Zappa-Mothers or Hammill-VdGG for me that it's difficult to say these two are so good anywhere they go...
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Floydian42
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Posted: October 22 2007 at 17:51 |
Right now, I cannot think of an example where I prefer the solo artist to the band they were/are with.
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Angelo
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Posted: October 22 2007 at 17:53 |
I generally think that there is no general rule to this. I like Steve Hackett's solo works, but also Genesis with Steve Hackett. Same applies to Weather Report and Jaco Pastorius. On the other hand, I like the first two Dream Theater albums, not the later ones and none of the solo works of Dream Theater members. Fripp solo is hard to get into, King Crimson as a band is mainly great stuff. And outside prog, I like Gary Moore's solo works way better than what he did with Skid Row. Of course, Colosseum II is on a different level there....
So in general - there's no general answer to your question - at least for me. |
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ProgBagel
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Posted: October 22 2007 at 20:03 |
I agree...I mean if we noted there solo career...it's because of the band they were in. Even vice versa....who knew Roine Stolt before the Flower Kings. Theres a lot I'm sure on here...but out of everyone, no. |
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Posted: October 23 2007 at 02:06 |
i prefer the 2 "Kiko Loureiro" studio albums better than "Angra" .... they're highly recommended btw... & i don't know if this actually counts but i also prefer "Ritchie Blackmore's Rainbow" over "Deep Purple"... Edited by Ahmadbarqawi - October 23 2007 at 02:07 |
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Dean
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Posted: October 23 2007 at 02:28 |
I would tend to agree, though when the solo work is a product of them leaving the band, it is often the case that the bands albums take a bit of a dive as a result. Neal Morse/Spocks Beard springs to mind (not that I'm knocking The Beard or Nick D'Virgilio's singing - it's just that I don't feel they are as Prog as they were).
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Dean
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Posted: October 23 2007 at 02:36 |
Got one but it's tenuous - Arjen Lucassen, but you have to take Ayreon as a solo project and Stream of Passion (& Star One) as a working band (I said it was tenuous) ((just don't mention his "Anthony" solo album, Pools of Sorrow, Waves of Joy ))
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Raff
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Posted: October 23 2007 at 02:41 |
If I have to think of one example of an artist I prefer solo rather than with his band, I'd have to take Peter Gabriel. Even though I know it may sound like heresy to many here, I think his solo output really shows all his potential as a vocalist and as a songwriter.
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Dean
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Posted: October 23 2007 at 02:48 |
for me that's a very close call - pitting Lamb & SEBTP against his PG1-4 & So would be a difficult choice, but I have to admit musically he progressed more as a solo artist with things like Passion and the inclusion of world-music into his work.
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yoel?
Forum Senior Member Joined: September 19 2007 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 160 |
Posted: October 23 2007 at 04:39 |
hmmmm i prefer chroma key to dream theater with kevin moore
but apart from that i cant think of anything
maybe hackett over genesis-but thats too close to call for me
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fuxi
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Posted: October 23 2007 at 06:02 |
Fascinating question. Most of Yes' early 1970s albums are amazing, but as soon as Bill Bruford's solo career took off, he started recording albums that were consistently more inspired than anything his former band were doing at the same time. FEELS GOOD TO ME and ONE OF A KIND were just the beginning. Earthworks took BB's career to a new level!
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Dean
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Posted: October 23 2007 at 06:16 |
You could add Rick Wakeman's "Six Wives"; Jon Anderson's "Olias of Sunhillow"; Chris Squire's "Fish Out Of Water" and some of Steve Howe's solos to that and they are all very worthy albums, but none of those (inc Bruford's solos) surpass "Close To The Edge" or "Relayer" (IMO).
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paloz
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Posted: October 23 2007 at 08:28 |
Surely the band
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heyitsthatguy
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Posted: October 23 2007 at 12:44 |
the only one I can think of is Devin Townsend vs. Strapping Young Lad, and given the choice, there's no contest to the former
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rushfan4
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Posted: October 23 2007 at 15:00 |
I would also say in most instances that I prefer the band to the solo artist, although frequently I like the solo artist's output as well. I really enjoy bands like Dream Theater and The Flower Kings, but I also really enjoy many of their side projects. Not sure if I would consider a side project as a solo project or not.
Two artists who come to mind where I think that I like their solo work more than their original bands are Ozzy Osbourne and Ronnie James Dio. But even that is difficult to say since Black Sabbath and Rainbow were both great bands.
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Ty1020
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Posted: October 23 2007 at 18:14 |
I would definitely take Devin Townsend over SYL (although The New Black
had some stuff that was really reminiscent of his solo work/DTB, which
was pretty fantastic).
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Dick Heath
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Posted: October 24 2007 at 12:21 |
I feel the opposite (awkward as ever!!), I don't think Gary Moore bettered what he did on Skid Row's 34 Hours.
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Dick Heath
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Posted: October 24 2007 at 12:28 |
IMHO Allan Holdsworth has done better as a solo artist than what he did with Soft Machine, Gong, Lifetime, UK, etc. (all of which have highs) - although I think his very best playing come when he is guesting on somebody else's album and playing somebody else's compositions.
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jimmy_row
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Posted: October 24 2007 at 14:42 |
Steve Hillage for me. Many will disagree, but IMO Fish Rising tops his work with GonG, Arzachel, Khan, and the million other bands he was in. |
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