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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 13 2007 at 17:37
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

the inclusion of one of the last great omission of this site


ahhh.. not so fast... that will be coming in the near future LOLWink

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 13 2007 at 17:42
ehhhh... why not.. I don't want to appear rude and not respond Peter though  this really isn't that big a deal

Originally posted by Peter Peter wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

   You can review a non prog album accurately and fairly based on it's prog quotient.  That is fair to all... unless the only thing that matters.. is what the damn ranking is...


Ah, but "prog" is just not a clearly identifiable quantity, now is it?

exactly... it is not.. that is for the reviewer to decide.. and that is where the value of the review is at.. in the review itself.. not the damn number of stars it gets
 
It's hardly a scientific, or precise, clear  term, and you must have noticed that opinions on its meaning and scope vary widely. (It's not even a genre. It is a largely subjective value judgement, IMO.)

see above
 
Your sweeping statement would seem to give me carte blanche to savage all prog metal albums as being "not prog enough," and give them consistently failing ratings, because to me, the metal part of the equation always dominates, and I simply don't like modern metal. Others can also fairly rate all of our listed classic and hard rock albums quite low (whether or not they like them as MUSIC being beside the point, apparently), if they find that the "prog quotient" is less than dominant.

again....that is what I noted to Rushfan earlier in this thread. This site does not edit opinions.  We take the good reivews.. and tolerate the bad ones.  I think most of the readers can tell the difference between someone who savages an album for shortsightedness.. and those that are fairly written.  End of story.
 
Do you see the difficulty in trying to make one prog-centric rating system fit all of the listed music? If we are to review non prog albums, we should be able to review them as such -- as MUSIC.
 
I'm not just being difficult or cantankerous. I can "measure my pleasure" (never mind that image!Wink) from a piece of music, but I honestly don't know how to measure "prog quotient." in any sort of objective, universally agreed-upon fashion. Do you have some sort of special tool for the purpose? Confused

again Peter.. that is why we have such a range in our prog reviewers.. from the rediculously young... to the ...ahhahha... old and ancient.  A wide range of views... OF that prog quotient.. makes for a more interesting range of viewpoints and more food for thought for the review reader. No tool..... just what  I think.  The nice thing is... if you don't like my quotient.. there are scores of other reviewers that might match what you think and voila.... you have a reviewer whose opinion matches yours and one whom you might lean on for suggestions.
 
(Not that Tool is considered prog in my house....Wink)

who? hahahhah
 
Your position is rather tenuous, even "dangerous," if you think it through. I firmly believe the primary consideration for any reviewer, of any album, must be "How much do I enjoy this MUSIC," not "How prog is this?"

it isn't dangerous.. just commen sense...  I don't give a sh*t about whether some cat I don't know likes an album or not. I want him to DISCUSS it..  Tell me about the album.. not how much is loves it ...or how classic it is.
 
"Prog" is not synonymous with "good," is it?Stern%20Smile

nope.... prog is synonymous with Prog Archives.. the site we post at ..and review albums for.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 13 2007 at 17:43
Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

the inclusion of one of the last great omission of this site


ahhh.. not so fast... that will be coming in the near future LOLWink

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just f**king around... Duran Duran hasn't been approved.... yet LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 13 2007 at 18:16
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:


just f**king around... Duran Duran hasn't been approved.... yet LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 13 2007 at 19:30
Originally posted by darqdean darqdean wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:


just f**king around... Duran Duran hasn't been approved.... yet LOL


LOL  did I forget to mention that when you signed on  Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 13 2007 at 19:36

Never a big fan of Duran Duran, although Hungry Like a Wolf was a cool song with a cool video.

Insert "emoticon with devil horns" here.  (I was too lazy to look for it).

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 13 2007 at 19:40
Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

Never a big fan of Duran Duran, although Hungry Like a Wolf was a cool song with a cool video.

Insert "emoticon with devil horns" here.  (I was too lazy to look for it).




HAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dm2yqA9ziro

and one of favorite songs from that era of music as well...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 13 2007 at 19:48
 ^ how wonderfully horrid.. not a bad pop tune actually, though Gary Numan rules Wink









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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 13 2007 at 19:54
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 ^ how wonderfully horrid.. not a bad pop tune actually, though Gary Numan rules Wink



oh yeah... we do love those horrid years

how about recommending  this  to Rico for progressive electronic.. and what our son's  head explode  LOL

and Philippe... wow LOLLOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IlHgbOWj4o


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 13 2007 at 19:57
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

ehhhh... why not.. I don't want to appear rude and not respond Peter though  this really isn't that big a deal

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 13 2007 at 19:59

Actually, Micky "Girls on Film" was much better than I remember it (probably too much oversaturation in those days).  I didn't care for the New Wave music when I was younger but I suppose that it has grown on me over the years as my tastes have changed.  And that was also a nice pictorial video.Big%20smile

I've always liked Blinded Me With Science on the other hand, and prog and science go hand in hand.Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 13 2007 at 20:00
Originally posted by Peter Peter wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

ehhhh... why not.. I don't want to appear rude and not respond Peter though  this really isn't that big a deal

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 13 2007 at 20:00
now you're talkin!  

I remember once Snowdog suggested Dolby for ArtRock just after I'd taken the reins Stern%20Smile.. I responded with "maybe not" LOL ..that was our first transaction with each other







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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 13 2007 at 20:03
Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

Actually, Micky "Girls on Film" was much better than I remember it (probably too much oversaturation in those days).  I didn't care for the New Wave music when I was younger but I suppose that it has grown on me over the years as my tastes have changed.  And that was also a nice pictorial video.Big%20smile

I've always liked Blinded Me With Science on the other hand, and prog and science go hand in hand.Wink


ditto.. on both ClapLOL

have to admit I love new wave.. loved it then.. still do today... it reminds me now of lost youth.. and even worse style than I have now LOL

I'll put Thomas Dolby to

oh my god

LSU is out....  just lost


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 13 2007 at 20:08
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

now you're talkin!  

I remember once Snowdog suggested Dolby for ArtRock just after I'd taken the reins Stern%20Smile.. I responded with "maybe not" LOL ..that was our first transaction with each other




hahhahah....  Ian tried to sllp one in on the newb... he's a bundle of laughs...Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 13 2007 at 20:09
Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

How about this one?
 


hhahahhah.... oh man I LOVE that group...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 13 2007 at 20:10
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

now you're talkin!  

I remember once Snowdog suggested Dolby for ArtRock just after I'd taken the reins Stern%20Smile.. I responded with "maybe not" LOL ..that was our first transaction with each other


hahhahah....  Ian tried to sllp one in on the newb... he's a bundle of laughs...Wink


know if we're gonna start seeing him around again?




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 13 2007 at 20:12
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

now you're talkin!  

I remember once Snowdog suggested Dolby for ArtRock just after I'd taken the reins Stern%20Smile.. I responded with "maybe not" LOL ..that was our first transaction with each other


hahhahah....  Ian tried to sllp one in on the newb... he's a bundle of laughs...Wink


know if we're gonna start seeing him around again?



I hope so... I hope he's doing well.  My rival for top of the  PA's smartassery  list LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 13 2007 at 20:23
indeed.. always good for some controversy

really like your sig, just noticed it

guess we should stop yaking on this poor lost thread





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