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    Posted: October 10 2007 at 12:32
The spine and the back cover both read

Mekanïk Destruktïw Kommandöh

The front reads

.M.D.K.

And the booklet reads

Mëkanïk Destruktïw Kommandöh

Notice the difference between the first and last. The first e in "Mëkanïk " is spelled differently on both. Is there an accent? Last.fm seems to think so, and that's why my 23 listens of it weren't adding to its play count. Does anyone know which is truly the correct spelling?
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Points: 8617 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 10 2007 at 13:33
Kobaians are not real sticklers for punctuation. Mine is the same as yours. Multiple place where Mekanik has non-accented e's and one on the rear of the sleeve is well as inside the sleeve with accents.  Mine also has a accent over the W in Destructiw on the front of the sleeve and rear liner, but not on the rear of the sleeve. 
 
So yes, lots of typos. Or maybe its just some contextual nuance that only true Kobaians can understand.

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Points: 7744 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 10 2007 at 13:35
I'm sure R-Dog will have something to say here....
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Points: 7003 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 10 2007 at 17:03
I think this may have something to do with the multiple versions that exist of the piece. Some sites such as emusic have real problems with the same name occurring in more than one place, especially for the same artist, so the changes in puntuation may be to distinguish between different versions.
 
Then there's Magma's tangled history of contracts, which led to MDK being retitled Mekanik Zain on Live/Hhai because of a dispute with a former manager (see also the testicles which Pink Floyd's flying pig developed after Waters left), so it could be a copyright issue.
 
Or possibly the proof reader wasn't that familiar with Kobaian (unlikely I know, but still a possibility).
 
I suspect that the umlaut serves much the same purpose that it does in Motorhead - not so much an accent as a warning of what the unwary may encounter...
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Points: 13244 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 10 2007 at 18:43
Originally posted by Syzygy Syzygy wrote:

I suspect that the umlaut serves much the same purpose that it does in Motorhead - not so much an accent as a warning of what the unwary may encounter...


I don't see no umlaut in Motorhead here... Wink

What's interesting though is that, unless I misunderstood, both spellings occur on the same album cover.
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Points: 7744 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 10 2007 at 18:53
Indeed, Angelo. The same issue (but not the same PAGE). It reads differently inside the booklet than on the cover (which is a single piece of paper, though) and on the back (which is a separate piece of paper Wink).
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Kobaians don't usually pay much attention to the umlauts; they are more for pronunciation than actual spelling, and everybody knows how to pronounce "mekanik," so nobody really wastes their time worrying about which letters get umlauts.  

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Points: 6890 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 11 2007 at 21:34

I have trouble spelling mekanik destructiw kommadoh without looking at it spelt correctly a couple of times.

Anyways, probably my favirote album I've found since lateralus!
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Points: 8844 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 11 2007 at 22:04
Saying that Magma is merely "The best thing since I heard Tool" is an insult to Magma.  

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Points: 6890 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 11 2007 at 22:20
Actually, They are pretty much tied for my favirote discovry of prog since I started listening to the music!
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Points: 7744 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 02 2007 at 13:02
Their website gives it the extra umlaut, along with one of their concert DVDs
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Points: 6419 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 02 2007 at 13:12
My vinyl says Mekanïk (without umlauted e) all over the place: Front, back, spine, inside. I think Mëkanïk is a typo of sorts, though I'm unsure of the age of my vinyl. It seems to be a pretty early version, but I don't know really. 
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Points: 8617 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 02 2007 at 18:05
Originally posted by rileydog22 rileydog22 wrote:

Saying that Magma is merely "The best thing since I heard Tool" is an insult to Magma.  
 
No Tööl , no Mekanïk!
 
...or is it Teuhl?
 
Ah, great idea for a cover band. 
 

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Points: 8543 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 02 2007 at 18:09
Originally posted by Tapfret Tapfret wrote:

Originally posted by rileydog22 rileydog22 wrote:

Saying that Magma is merely "The best thing since I heard Tool" is an insult to Magma.  
 
No Tööl , no Mekanïk!
 
...or is it Teuhl?
 
Ah, great idea for a cover band. 
 
 
You could do Zeuhl versions of Tool songs.  Sort of like prog's answer to Dred Zeppelin. 
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Points: 6890 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 02 2007 at 18:10
Ha R dogg, I like Isis more than tool AND Magma now.
 
Yes is still barely in the lead.
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Points: 1008 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2007 at 05:22
Since its an invented word with no communal application i reckon one is free to do with it whatever one wants. However Wikipedia puts no mark over the first 'e' so no more need be said.
 
Magma are a French band so I suppose the dots are an accent trema rather than an umlaut. Given Christian Vander's nationality I've always thought it strange that 'Kobaian' appears so Teutonic.
 


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Points: 7744 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 19 2007 at 18:00
Originally posted by ten years after ten years after wrote:

Given Christian Vander's nationality I've always thought it strange that 'Kobaian' appears so Teutonic.
 


Christian is three-quarters German and a quarter Polish, actually.
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