Progressive vs Prog

Progressive and prog have always been interchangeable for me.  Art Rock as well. 

I don't think there is one answer to your question, Raffaella. People (including myself) use this ambiguity (theoretically prog and progressive should be the same thing, but they aren't, at least not when being used in conversation) to develop the subtleties they each feel they couldn't express otherwise. And each of us has another idea to express, therefore...

progressive and Prog are obviously not the same, but maybe youngers and some other people will disagree, nice thread by the way.

Would I say that my Sony DVD is "Prog" only because it has "progressive scan"?

Well, no...

That's when you see the difference between Prog and progressive, this last one is just an adjective.

for a band to aspire to be progressive is very good thing and for a band to aspire to be 'prog' is a very bad thing, and extremely un-progressive. its that simple

chopper wrote: As far as I'm concerned there is Progressive Rock (with a capital P) and this is a particular genre of music which is mainly the "classic" bands of the 70s (we all know who the main ones are) and also extends to a number of current bands such as Spock's Beard. There is also progressive music (small P) which applies to any band who are pushing out the boundaries.  This would include such bands as GYBE, Thinking Plague, who I wouldn't personally call "prog". I usually think of it like this - if a major record shop such as HMV had such a thing as (God forbid) a progressive rock section, which bands would they include? Yes, Genesis, ELP, Marillion - yes. Jazz-fusion bands - no. Post-rock - probably not.

This would work, except for the fact that I find Neal Morse, Transatlantic and Frost* in the metal sections of HMV, and Threshold in pop/rock, there the last people I would trust!

Forgotten Son wrote: Blacksword wrote: That said, pedancy can bring me out in hives That's pedantry

Very good well spotted..

ProgBagel wrote: Is there a difference? I interchange them .

You mean between 'pedancy' and 'pedantry?' If so, Yes.

There's no difference, prog is just short for progressive. Both words are used FAR too often to talk about the bands on this site (being called prog archives, that's expected). It's a shame, though, that we pigeonhole all these bands that are vibrantly different from each other as "progressive". To me it seems like a tool used by teenagers who only know genres, and who want to be able to judge each other on what music they listen to.

We have to realize that progressive rock isn't a genre, it's a movement. It WAS a movement, now it's a revivalist movement. There was never a genre called "prog", contrary to every music snob college student's belief.

Why do I say this? Why does the word "prog" bother me so much? A few reasons. Firstly, people who use it don't really care what they're talking about. All this talk about people wanting to write prog songs and go to prog shows and laugh at prog clothing, it shows a superficial understanding of the music and that's not at ALL what we have this website for.

The bigger reason, though, is the bands themselves tell themselves, "let's become a prog band" and instead of being a band that is truly progressive and pushing music's boundaries, they pick and choose a band from the 1970s and blatantly rip them off. I'm looking at you, Galahad, Dream Theater, and basically every band in Progressive Metal who sounds like each other.

It's a destructive word to use habitually, I don't use it at all.

I think we're missing the whole point here. " Progressive vs Prog" If progressive and prog were to take on each other in a grudge match, who would win?