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Prog.Sylvie 
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 Posted: September 24 2007 at 17:15 |
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I wanted to go at your table, but there was too many people... I went outside walking in the sun instead. Maybe see you next time.
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C'est la vie
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nasti
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Posted: September 30 2007 at 02:24 |
Nice pictures, thank you Prog.Sylvie... 
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Prog.Sylvie
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Posted: September 30 2007 at 18:37 |
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Thanks Nasti.
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Vibrationbaby
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Posted: October 02 2007 at 10:58 |
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Nice pictures. Seriously. I can`t believe they allowed cameras into this thing. BUT. There`s always a but. I still think these festivals are an engine to generate money. That`s part of the reason I don`t participate. Even if I had free tickets I doubt I would have gone. I find the music of these bands unlistenable, non-descript and would even go as far to say that, with the exception of the Strawbs are not prog as I see it. Even from what I`ve seen of their recent performances on youtube they are not what they were but, I wasn`t there so I can`t criticize their performance or that of any of the other participating bands at this Montréal prog event.
As far as I`m concerned, and I`m not alone, prog died somewhere between 1975 and 1977 and fortunately many of the recordings from that era are still available and I own just about everything I need. It`s also great that lost recordings are being released from time to time.
As for going to see concerts I have seen my fair share during my teens and early 20s. I feel I`ve grown out of them and find them increasingly expensive and tedious. Nowadays I have other things to do with my time and money rather than sitting in a clausrophobic venue such as working on and flying my plane, going on day trips to the Eastern Townships or having a barbecue on Mount Royal with my wife and dogs. I guess I`ve mellowed out in my old age ( I`m 45 ). If I want to see a concert I`ll go out and buy the DVD. That`s good enough for me although I`ve got tickets for Jethro Tull and John McLaughlin in November because it will probably be the last opportunity I get to see them, but they`re my swan song as far as shows go.
Don`t attack me because I have an opinion and once again nice photos and I`m glad that everyone enjoyed themselves. Just not my thing anymore.
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debrewguy
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Posted: October 02 2007 at 12:22 |
 Vibrationbaby wrote:
Nice pictures. Seriously. I can`t believe they allowed cameras into this thing. BUT. There`s always a but. I still think these festivals are an engine to generate money. That`s part of the reason I don`t participate. Even if I had free tickets I doubt I would have gone. I find the music of these bands unlistenable, non-descript and would even go as far to say that, with the exception of the Strawbs are not prog as I see it. Even from what I`ve seen of their recent performances on youtube they are not what they were but, I wasn`t there so I can`t criticize their performance or that of any of the other participating bands at this Montréal prog event.
As far as I`m concerned, and I`m not alone, prog died somewhere between 1975 and 1977 and fortunately many of the recordings from that era are still available and I own just about everything I need. It`s also great that lost recordings are being released from time to time.
As for going to see concerts I have seen my fair share during my teens and early 20s. I feel I`ve grown out of them and find them increasingly expensive and tedious. Nowadays I have other things to do with my time and money rather than sitting in a clausrophobic venue such as working on and flying my plane, going on day trips to the Eastern Townships or having a barbecue on Mount Royal with my wife and dogs. I guess I`ve mellowed out in my old age ( I`m 45 ). If I want to see a concert I`ll go out and buy the DVD. That`s good enough for me although I`ve got tickets for Jethro Tull and John McLaughlin in November because it will probably be the last opportunity I get to see them, but they`re my swan song as far as shows go.
Don`t attack me because I have an opinion and once again nice photos and I`m glad that everyone enjoyed themselves. Just not my thing anymore.
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Despite some disagreements in the past VB, I can say that I feel the same way about concerts in general. I'm also 45, have a wife two dogs & a lovely daughter. SO there are many activities that take precedence over what can be a rather expensive proposition. I would have loved to see the Strawbs & IQ. The rest held some interest, but they would have the so-called "gravy". Too bad more of our generation don't feel the same way. Then maybe the major acts touting might have to make their prices "reasonable". Though if you read about the aftermarket (i.e. scalpers or resellers such as Stubhub), I can see why a musical group would see the necessity of charging X amount if they know the resellers will buy up the tickets only to offer them afterwards at a much higher price. Ah, the wonders of modern technology. Although this is not prog, my daughter is a big fan of Hannah Montana. I've been reading that the concert tickets in the States are selling out within less than an hour after of being available. UNfortunately, most are not being bought by the fans. So websites are already offering them, in one case , at over $2000 for a front row seat. Yet the actual price charged by the venue is just over $100. SO now as we may be approaching a time when the record company leeches are on their last legs, we now face another species of money grabbers - the "resellers". Hoping that the promoters & acts find some way of ensuring the fan gets first & best chance at getting tickets to see them at reasonable prices. As you say VB, and may remember the priceless memories of seeing your idols in (y)our younger days. It's something I wish my daughter gets the chance too, as she grows up.
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"Here I am talking to some of the smartest people in the world and I didn't even notice,” Lieutenant Columbo, episode The Bye-Bye Sky-High I.Q. Murder Case.
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Vibrationbaby
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Posted: October 02 2007 at 15:58 |
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I agree with you with the younger generation to be able to experience their favourite bands just as we did but, as you pointed out it`s just getting to be such an expensive proposition. We`ve got to eat, pay bills and take care of loved ones first. Hell, my two dogs alone run me over $10,000 per year exluding incidentals such as vet bills. One of them got hit by a car a couple of years ago and it was either put him down or pay a few thousand $ and of course I chose the latter. I `ve been going through my ticket stubs and checking the prices for some concerts. April Wine( Harder Faster tour ) & Johnny Winter $6.50 in `78. King Crimson $12.50 General admission at the Spectrum in `82. Jean Luc Ponty and Supertramp in Jarry Park in `79 10.00 and so on. I saw a scalper at the Genesis concert asking $800 for single tickets! Just ain`t worth it.
Edited by Vibrationbaby - October 02 2007 at 16:00
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Prog.Sylvie
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Posted: October 02 2007 at 16:09 |
For the prog.fest, when you pay for the gold ticket, it's about 20.00 $ per concert plus a party after . If you have a regular ticket , it's something like 10 .00 $ per concert. So, a prog.fest aloud you to see good concerts for not much money each.
This year, Porcupine Tree was only 25.00 $ per ticket, so not expensive at all to see PT.
I will go see Jethro Tull in november. I don't care to spend money on his concert because I know that Ian Anderson is very good, he is very generous and I like JT music very much.
I don't care to spend something like between 500.00 $ to 1,000.00 $ per year for two people ( my husband and I) to see good concerts and to see artists that we like.
For Genesis, we sat upstairs in the stadium because we thought that It was not worthing to pay more than 77.00 $ each to see them. I think that the concert was very good, but we were ok seating in the 400. I would not have paid much.
Edited by Prog.Sylvie - October 02 2007 at 16:10
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Vibrationbaby
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Posted: October 02 2007 at 16:41 |
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I`ll be the guy with the two handsome dogs at the JT concert. They wouldn`t let them into the Genesis concert because they didn`t have tickets.Too bad they have to have it at a crap venue. PDA isn`t that great for rock shows. I saw Crimson there a few years back and the sound was too compressed. But then again these guys play friggin`loud.
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debrewguy
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Posted: October 02 2007 at 18:11 |
Prog.Sylvie wrote:
For the prog.fest, when you pay for the gold ticket, it's about 20.00 $ per concert plus a party after . If you have a regular ticket , it's something like 10 .00 $ per concert. So, a prog.fest aloud you to see good concerts for not much money each.
This year, Porcupine Tree was only 25.00 $ per ticket, so not expensive at all to see PT.
I will go see Jethro Tull in november. I don't care to spend money on his concert because I know that Ian Anderson is very good, he is very generous and I like JT music very much.
I don't care to spend something like between 500.00 $ to 1,000.00 $ per year for two people ( my husband and I) to see good concerts and to see artists that we like.
For Genesis, we sat upstairs in the stadium because we thought that It was not worthing to pay more than 77.00 $ each to see them. I think that the concert was very good, but we were ok seating in the 400. I would not have paid much.
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I thought that the VIP package was a great deal. At least until the festival was backed up by a day so to not compete with the Genesis concert. Part of the attraction was seeing the Strawbs one night & IQ the next night. The other groups held some interest, but not enough to draw me in. But a Sunday night concert when you're looking at a nine hour drive home is not too appealing. Oh well, better luck next year. I've got my eyes peeled open for any clue as to the 2008 line-up.
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