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Posted: September 19 2007 at 14:19 |
Well, I'm also interested in Indexi classic album "Modra Rijeka". Great stuff, from the samples I've heard.
I've just ordered my copy on e-bay.
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Posted: September 20 2007 at 05:20 |
Andrea Cortese wrote:
Hi friends,
how about this german site specialized in prog from ex-yugoslavia and eastern europe?
I would like to order some Smak's stuff! |
Nice list! A few suggestions if I may:
2330 LP 1982 Idoli: Odbrana i poslednji dani (psych. Rock) inn.sl or Jt ex++
/ex+ 35 €
2431 LP 1973 Lisac, Josipa: Dnevnik jedne ljubavi (Rock - prog. Rock) foc or Jt
ex+ /ex-- 60 €
2463 LP 1976 Mihajlovic, Radomir - Tocak & Smak: R. M. Tocak (prog. Rock)
foc or RTV ex++ /ex 60 €
2612 LP 1977 Smak: Crna dama (prog. Rock) 2 inn.sls or RTB ex++ /vg++ 60 €
2661 LP 1978 Tako: Same (prog. Rock) inn.sl or RTV ex+ /ex--
75 €
2662 LP 1980 Tako: U vreci za spavanje (prog. Rock) co or RTB ex++ /ex- 100 €
2675 LP 1972 Time: Same (prog. Rock) or Jt ex++ /vg++ 75 €
2752 2LP 1975 Kongres rock majstora (Rock & Heavyrock) foc or Jt ex+ /ex--
100 €
Josip Bocek (Korni Grupa, 4 x); Vedran Božic (Time, 4 x); Goran Bregovic (Bijelo
Dugme, 4 x); Miodrag Kostic (Yu Grupa, 4 x)
2754 LP 1975? Pro Arte / Indexi (Poprock & prog. Rock live) *Balkanton/BG
BTA 1630 red or? * ex /vg 30 €
Indexi (4 x); Pro Arte (8x)
I see they're quite pricey. Most of them are re-issued on CD, pricing at €10-€15.
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Posted: September 20 2007 at 05:36 |
Thanks for the suggestions. I will go for the cd versions, though. I usually don't buy vinyls (and the prices are slightly more accessible...12 Euros... ).
Time are on my list along already with Smak's Crna Dama.
I have a triple cd compilation with many bands and artists. Tako look good too.
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Posted: September 20 2007 at 08:15 |
They seem to have a great catalogue, even including some Romanian stuff, but they don't say what exactly they have in stock and what not. The list is exactly the same as it was almost a year ago when I first checked it, so I have some doubts...
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Posted: September 20 2007 at 08:38 |
I've found these lists of recommendations while sailing through internet:
Part 1: Aerodrom - Kad misli mi vrludaju (1979) YUG Bebic, Toma - Oya noya (1980) YUG Bijelo dugme - Dozivjeti stotu (1980) YUG Bijelo dugme - Uspavanka za Radmilu M (1983) YUG Bijelo Dugme - sta bi dao da si na mom mjestu (1975) YUG Boom Pop fest '73 (1973) YUG Boom Pop fest '74 (1974) YUG Boom Pop festival Ljubljana 72 (1972) YUG Buco i Srdjan - Vece je nas prijatelj (1974) YUG Buldozer - Izlog jeftinih slatkisa (1980) YUG Buldozer - Nevino srce (1983) YUG Buldozer - Noc (1995) Buldozer - Rok end roul (1981) YUG Buldozer - zivi bili pa vidjeli (1979) YUG Cod - Bijeli Bagremi (1978) YUG Dah - Povratak (1976) YUG Dah - Veliki cirkus (1974) YUG Den za den - Den za den (1979) YUG Divlje jagode - Motori (1982) YUG Don Huan - Drzte lopova (1983) YUG Don Huan - Ugasi luc (1982) YUG Dr. Project Point Blank - Blues (1984) YUG Dr. Project Point Blank - Dr. Project Point Blank (1985) YUG Drugi nacin - Drugi nacin (1975) YUG Drugi nacin - Ponovo na putu (1982) YUG Dzejbi - Dzejbi (1981) YUG Gordi - covek (1978) YUG Grupa 220 - Slike (1975) YUG Had - SunŸani dan (1973 single) YUG Hobo - Hobo (1975) YUG Igra staklenih perli - Drives (1978) YUG Igra staklenih perli - Inner Flow (1978) YUG Indexi - Indexi (1974) YUG Indexi - Modra riijeka (1978) YUG Kornelyans - Not an Ordinary life (1974) YUG Korni grupa - Korni grupa (1972) YUG Kovac, Kornelije - Izmedju Svetlosti i Tame (1977) YUG Leb i sol - Kalabalak (1983) YUG Leb i sol - Leb i sol (1978) YUG Leb i sol - Leb i sol 2 (1978) YUG Leb i sol - Sledovanje (1981) YUG Lisac, Josipa - Dnevnik jedne ljubavi (1973) YUG Mlinarec, Drago - Sve je u redu (1978) YUG More - More (1974) YUG Pomaranca - Orange III (1985 tape rip) YUG Pomaranca - Orange III (1985) YUG Pop masina - Kiselina (1973) YUG Predmestje - Kamasutra (1982) YUG Rezonansa - Hitovi (1991) YUG Smak - Smak (1975) YUG Sobic, Miladin - Oziljak (1981) YUG Sobic, Miladin - Umesto gluposti (1982) YUG Suncokret - Moje bube (1977) YUG Tako - Tako (1978) YUG Tako - U vreci za spavanje (1980) YUG Tantadruj - Tantadruj (1989) YUG Teska Industrija - Zasviraj i za pojas zadjeni (1978) YUG Vatreni poljubac - Recept za rock 'n' roll (1979) YUG Yu grupa - Kako to da svaki dan (1974) YUG Yu grupa - Yu grupa (1973) YUG Yu grupa - Yu grupa (1975) YUG
Part 2: Anastasija - Na rjekah vavlionskih (1990) YUG Arandjelovic, Boris - Iz profila (1982) YUG Asanovic, Tihomir Pop - Majko zemljo (1974) YUG Atomsko skloniste - Infarkt (1978) YUG Ave - Zakaj so vsi pozabili (1979 single) YUG Begnagrad - Begnagrad (1982) YUG Bijelo dugme - Eto! Bas Hocu! (1976) YUG Bijelo dugme - Kad bi bio bijelo dugme (1974) YUG Bijelo dugme - Koncert kod hajducke cesme (1977) YUG Brecelj, Marko - Cocktail (1975) YUG Clan - Motor hocu, mama (1977) YUG Domijan, Darko - Stani bar na tren (1974) YUG Elektricni orgazam - Elektricni orgazam (1981) YUG Grupa 220 - Prolazi jesen (1968 single) YUG Grupa 92 - Od sestih do dveh (1980 single) YUG Igra staklenih perli - Igra staklenih perli (1979) YUG Igra staklenih perli - Soft Explosion Live (1978) YUG Ipe i Laza - Stizemo (1977) YUG Jutro - Dobro jutro (1980) YUG Kladivo konj in voda - Vidov ples (1983) YUG Korni grupa (with Dado Topic & Josipa Lisac) - Poema 1941 (1979) YUG Korni grupa - Miris (1974 single) Korni grupa - Mrtvo more (1975) YUG Kovacic, Jani - Jani Kovacic (1980) YUG Leb i sol - Beskonacno (1981) YUG Leb i sol - Rucni rad (1979) YUG Lepo je (1982 compilation) YUG Mama rock - Pokreni me (1985) YUG Marjanov cudni zajec - Svinjam dijamante (1985) YUG Mlinarec, Drago - A ti se ne daj (1971) YUG Mlinarec, Drago - Negdje postoji netko (1977) YUG Mlinarec, Drago - Pjesme s planine (1972) YUG Mlinarec, Drago - Pomaknuto (1983) YUG Mlinarec, Drago - Sabrano (1980) YUG Na lepem prijazni - Na lepem prijazni (1980) YUG Nepocin - Svijet po kojem gazim (1977) YUG Novi punk val (1981 compilation) YUG Oko - Raskorak (1976) YUG Opus - Opus 1 (1975) YUG Orange - Madbringer (1983) YUG Pankrti - Namesto tebe (1981 single) YUG Paraf - A dan je tako lepo poceo (1980) YUG Paraf - Izleti (1981) YUG Paraf - Rijeka (1979 single) YUG Pejakovic, Zlatko - Lice (1976) YUG Petkovski, Miki - Ko zna (1978) YUG Pomaranca - Peklenska pomaranca (1981) YUG Pop masina - Na izvoru svetlosti (1975) YUG Pop parada (1977) YUG Popovic, Davorin & Indexi - Svaka je ljubav ista (1976) Predmestje - Brez naslova (1977) YUG Predmestje - Danes, vceraj in ... (1979) YUG Predmestje - Hazard (1980) YUG Pro arte - Pruzi mi ruke ljubavi (1970) YUG Sedmina - 2. dejanje (1982) YUG September - Domovino moja (1979) YUG September - Zadnja avantura (1976) YUG Slovenska gruda - Pesmi (1983) YUG Smak - Dab in the middle (1978) YUG Smak - Stranice naseg vremena (1978) YUG Stijene - Cementna prasina (1981) YUG Stijene - Jedanaest i petnaest (1982) YUG Suncokret - Gde ces biti lepa kejo (1976 single) YUG Time - Time 2 (1975) YUG Tocak, R. M. - R. M. Tocak (1976) YUG Yu grupa - Opasno (1978 single) YUG Sarlo akrobata - Bistriji ili tuplji covek biva kad (1981) YUG
Part 3:
Atomsko skloniSte - Ne cvikaj generacijo (1978) YUG Azra - Azra (1980) YUG Azra - Filigranski ploCnici (1982) YUG Azra - Izmedju krajnosti (1987) YUG Azra - Krivo srastanje (1984) YUG Azra - Ravno do dna (1981) YUG Azra - SunCana strana ulice (1981) YUG Balkan - Gola istina (1982) YUG Balkan - Na brdovitom Balkanu (1983) YUG Bijelo dugme - Bitanga i princeza (1979) YUG Boom Pop fest '76 (1976) YUG Brecelj, Marko - Parada (1981 single) YUG BregoviC, Goran - Goran BregoviC (1976) YUG BuldoZer - Ako ste slobodni veCeras (1982) YUG BuldoZer - Pljuni istini u oCi (1975) YUG BuldoZer - Zabranjeno plakatirati (1976) YUG Dr Spira i ljudska biCa - Dijagnoza (1980) YUG Ekatarina velika - Samo par godina za nas (1989) YUG Fire - Could You Understand Me (1973) YUG Galija - Druga plovidba (1980) YUG Idoli - Odbrana i poslednji dani (1982) YUG Igra staklenih perli - Vrt svetlosti (1980) YUG Indexi - Indexi (1972) YUG Indexi - Modra rijeka (1978) YUG Indexi - Plima (1972 single) YUG Jimi Hendrix Reincarnation - And Don't Get Mad Now (1989) Jugoslavenska pop selekcija - Slatka Lola (1975) Jutro - Prema suncu (1976 single) YUG Kongres - Zarjavele trobente (1984) YUG Kongres rock majstora (1975) YUG Kovacic, Jani - Ljudje (1983) YUG Laibach - Jesus Christ Superstars (1996) NSK Laibach - Let It Be (1988) YUG Laibach - NATO (1994) NSK Lacni Franz - Ikebana 1981(YUG) Leb i sol - Akusticna trauma (1982) YUG Mlinarec, Drago - Rodjenje (1975) YUG Oddelek 8 - Quartar (1979) YUG Pankrti - Dolgcajt (1980) YUG Pekinska patka - Plitka poezija (1980) YUG Rani mraz - Odlazi cirkus (1980) YUG Riblja corba - Kost u grlu (1979) YUG Riblja corba - Mrtva priroda (1981) YUG S vremena na vreme - Moj svet (1977 compilation) YUG S vremena na vreme - S vremena na vreme (1975) YUG Smak - Crna dama (1977) YUG Smak - Zasto ne volim sneg (1981) YUG Teska industrija - Ho-ruk (1976) YUG Teska industrija - Jahorina (1975 single) YUG Teska industrija - Kadija (1975 single) YUG Yu grupa - Yu zlato (1976 compilation) YUG YU Record Collector Dream - Singles
What to say?
How huge this progressive rock scene was!
Edited by Andrea Cortese - September 20 2007 at 08:39
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Posted: September 20 2007 at 08:41 |
This will be one of my next purchases:
Smak - Crna Dama (1977)
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Posted: September 20 2007 at 08:44 |
...and also this one:
Korni Grupa - s/t (1972)
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Posted: September 27 2007 at 05:37 |
Andrea Cortese wrote:
Well, I'm also interested in Indexi classic album "Modra Rijeka". Great stuff, from the samples I've heard.
I've just ordered my copy on e-bay. |
arrived!!!
raw and magnific! Folky and symphonic, light and heavy, dreamy, sad, instinctive, genuine, poetic (the sound is truly).
Someone has already defined it an unrefined gem for his ancestral and direct beauty.
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Posted: September 27 2007 at 06:20 |
And it has a lovely cover...
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Posted: September 27 2007 at 06:40 |
andu wrote:
And it has a lovely cover...
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And lovely lyrics, too. Since it's probably one of the most appreciated
prog rock albums from ex-Yugoslavia, I will translate them one of these
days. They're worth checking.
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Posted: September 27 2007 at 09:27 |
clarke2001 wrote:
andu wrote:
And it has a lovely cover... |
And lovely lyrics, too. Since it's probably one of the most appreciated prog rock albums from ex-Yugoslavia, I will translate them one of these days. They're worth checking.
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thanks, Clarke!
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Posted: September 28 2007 at 05:44 |
Andrea Cortese wrote:
Andrea Cortese wrote:
Well, I'm also interested in Indexi classic album "Modra Rijeka". Great stuff, from the samples I've heard.
I've just ordered my copy on e-bay. |
arrived!!!
raw and magnific! Folky and symphonic, light and heavy, dreamy, sad, instinctive, genuine, poetic (the sound is truly).
Someone has already defined it an unrefined gem for his ancestral and direct beauty. |
The song "More" is stunning!!
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Posted: September 28 2007 at 05:45 |
Andrea Cortese wrote:
Andrea Cortese wrote:
Well, I'm also interested in Indexi classic album "Modra Rijeka". Great stuff, from the samples I've heard.
I've just ordered my copy on e-bay. |
arrived!!!
raw and magnific! Folky and symphonic, light and heavy, dreamy, sad, instinctive, genuine, poetic (the sound is truly).
Someone has already defined it an unrefined gem for his ancestral and direct beauty. |
The song "More" is stunning!! Their MAGNUM OPUS.
Impressive work on bass guitar!!
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Posted: October 02 2007 at 09:17 |
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This will be one of my next purchases:
Smak - Crna Dama (1977)
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Ordered today my copy on cd!
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Posted: October 02 2007 at 09:42 |
Wow, I was just a few days off this site and what news took place.
Andrea, congrats for your purchase of "Modra rijeka" and "Crna dama", they are both essential prog from YU.
Kalemegdan Disk is a good place to look for these gems, although I never myself bought anything from them (I stick to mp3 format for archival purposes... )
Hear from you later on impressions....
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Posted: October 02 2007 at 09:49 |
clarke2001 wrote:
andu wrote:
And it has a lovely cover... |
And lovely lyrics, too. Since it's probably one of the most appreciated prog rock albums from ex-Yugoslavia, I will translate them one of these days. They're worth checking.
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Hi, I found the translation of "Modra rijeka" title track:
Blue River
by Bosnian poet Mak Dizdar English translation by Darja Bekan
Nobody knows Where it is Little we know But it’s known
Beyond the mount Beyond the valley Beyond seven, beyond eight And elsewhere, And crazier, Through mortal, Through bitter Through haw thorn, Through thorn bush, Through heat, Through restraint, Through suspicion, Through doubt, Beyond nine, beyond ten.
Even deeper, even stronger, beyond silence, beyond darkness. Where roosters never crow. Where horn Can’t be heard. And elsewhere, And crazier, Beyond the reason, beyond God.
There’s one Blue river. It’s wide. It’s deep. It’s hundred years Wide and thousand years deep it is. Don’t even dream About its length. That’s murk and darkness Full of grieving.
There is one Blue river.
There is one Blue river.
We should cross that river.
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Since it is a true poetry, not meant to be sung, I cannot say how accurate the translation is. Poetry translation is the very art as such, me guess...
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Posted: October 02 2007 at 10:17 |
Seyo wrote:
clarke2001 wrote:
andu wrote:
And it has a lovely cover... |
And lovely lyrics, too. Since it's probably one of the most appreciated prog rock albums from ex-Yugoslavia, I will translate them one of these days. They're worth checking.
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Hi, I found the translation of "Modra rijeka" title track:
Blue River
by Bosnian poet Mak Dizdar English translation by Darja Bekan
Nobody knows Where it is Little we know But it’s known
Beyond the mount Beyond the valley Beyond seven, beyond eight And elsewhere, And crazier, Through mortal, Through bitter Through haw thorn, Through thorn bush, Through heat, Through restraint, Through suspicion, Through doubt, Beyond nine, beyond ten.
Even deeper, even stronger, beyond silence, beyond darkness. Where roosters never crow. Where horn Can’t be heard. And elsewhere, And crazier, Beyond the reason, beyond God.
There’s one Blue river. It’s wide. It’s deep. It’s hundred years Wide and thousand years deep it is. Don’t even dream About its length. That’s murk and darkness Full of grieving.
There is one Blue river.
There is one Blue river.
We should cross that river.
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Since it is a true poetry, not meant to be sung, I cannot say how accurate the translation is. Poetry translation is the very art as such, me guess... |
AND YET ANOTHER TRANSLATION OF THE SAME SONG:
Mak Dizdar |
DARK BLUE RIVER |
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None can say where it is found We know little but 'tis known
Beyond mountain, beyond valley Beyond seven, beyond eight
And still sadder and still madder Over weary, over bitter
Over hawthorn, over thornbush Over drought and over hindrance
Over dread and over doubt Beyond nine and beyond ten
There below beneath the earth Over yonder beneath the sky
And still deeper and still fiercer Beyond silence, beyond nightfall
Where the roosters do not crow And the horn's voice is unknown
And still sadder and still madder Beyond mind and beyond God
For there is a dark blue river It is broad and it is deep
It is broad one hundred years A thousand summers is its depth
And its length not to be thought Murk and darkness unrelenting
For there is a dark blue river
For there is a dark blue river And that river we must cross
Translated by Wayles Browne © 2007 Wayles Browne of the Mak Dizdar Foundation
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Posted: October 02 2007 at 10:27 |
clarke2001 wrote:
andu wrote:
And it has a lovely cover... |
And lovely lyrics, too. Since it's probably one of the most appreciated prog rock albums from ex-Yugoslavia, I will translate them one of these days. They're worth checking.
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I also found translation of another song from that album, "Slovo o covjeku", here it is
Mak Dizdar |
A WORD ABOUT MAN |
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First
Enclosed within a body encased in skin You dream of heaven's fecund return
Housed in a brain imprisoned in a heart The sun you revere from this dark cave
Imprisoned in flesh locked up by these bones How can this space
To heaven be bridged?
Second
Confined in a ribcage captured by silver In your grandeur no finer than the peasant
Enclosed within a body shut in by skin You dream that this earth with heaven agrees
Wrenched from heaven bread and wine you desire But will your dwelling
Your home ever be?
Third
Locked in flesh encaged by bones These bones your flesh will gore
Wrenched from heaven bread and wine you desire But stone and smoke are all there are
Of these two hands is one not yours? The one who wants
The other to kill?
Fourth
Encased in a brain captured in a heart The sun you call ceaselessly from the dark pit
You dream of heaven drawing nigh Through blades of grass the body drunkenly swerves
Held fast by roots immersed in blood In this sorrowful dance
Are you last or first?
Fifth
In that sorrowful dance neither last nor first You are a gathering for creatures and a playground for worms
Trapped in a body that makes itself a grave When will the body from its own accord
act?
Translated by Keith Doubt © 2007 Keith Doubt Published with permission of the Mak Dizdar Foundation |
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Posted: October 02 2007 at 10:53 |
Wow, it's very impressive list of Yugo bands.
I'll try to add a brief note to each of them for explanation (in blue):
Andrea Cortese wrote:
I've found these lists of recommendations while sailing through internet:
Part 1: Aerodrom - Kad misli mi vrludaju (1979) YUG (good symphonic prog, sounds like YES) Bebic, Toma - Oya noya (1980) YUG (avant singer/songwriter, humour surreal topics of Dalmatia region, rough voice like Tom Waits) Bijelo dugme - Dozivjeti stotu (1980) YUG (popular ska/new wave, not interesting for prog) Bijelo dugme - Uspavanka za Radmilu M (1983) YUG (pop phase of the band, not good) Bijelo Dugme - sta bi dao da si na mom mjestu (1975) YUG (essential mix of heavy prog rock and so-called "shepherds rock" (Balkan folk influence), recommended for prog listeners) Boom Pop fest '73 (1973) YUG (all Boom Pop Festivals are highly recommended for prog listeners!) Boom Pop fest '74 (1974) YUG (all Boom Pop Festivals are highly recommended for prog listeners!) Boom Pop festival Ljubljana 72 (1972) YUG (all Boom Pop Festivals are highly recommended for prog listeners!) Buco i Srdjan - Vece je nas prijatelj (1974) YUG (acoustic singer/songwriter duo reminiscent of Simon and Garfunkel, nice melodic light folk rock) Buldozer - Izlog jeftinih slatkisa (1980) YUG (good album but not essential to prog, contains diversity of styles from punk to polka to reggae to psyche) Buldozer - Nevino srce (1983) YUG (the worst album by the band, only for fans) Buldozer - Noc (1995) (very good "come back" album, recommended, heavy prog moments) Buldozer - Rok end roul (1981) YUG (nice experiment and/or joke - rockabilly 50s with hilarious lyrics as usual, mini LP, musically not prog) Buldozer - zivi bili pa vidjeli (1979) YUG (another mini LP, film soundtrack, not essential, for fans) Cod - Bijeli Bagremi (1978) YUG (a campy pop glam rock group recorded this album which has some prog rock elements, notably the title track)
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to be continued...
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Posted: October 02 2007 at 17:08 |
Thanks Seyo for the valuable info and for the translations, very much appreciated.
I knew Modra Rijeka was inspired by real poems but the english version is waaay more accessible to me...
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