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rileydog22 
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 Posted: September 27 2007 at 22:38 |
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Uh-huh.
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Dim
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Posted: September 27 2007 at 22:39 |
They made they're own label!?!?
Does this mean ELP is one of the first indie bands?
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rileydog22
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Posted: September 27 2007 at 22:43 |
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That's demeaning to ELP.
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Dim
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Posted: September 27 2007 at 22:46 |
Kind of... well they are the third worst band of all time 
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bluetailfly
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Posted: September 27 2007 at 22:49 |
 schizoid_man77 wrote:
Kind of... well they are the third worst band of all time |
Well, in any case, they're better than Magma 
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"The red polygon's only desire / is to get to the blue triangle."
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bluetailfly
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Posted: September 27 2007 at 22:50 |
schizoid_man77 wrote:
Kind of... well they are the third worst band of all time |
I'm sorry, is this a joke? If so, I apologize for my Magma joke. 
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Dim
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Posted: September 27 2007 at 22:51 |
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Check out the rescent thread "An intelligent comment about ELP"
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Dim
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Posted: September 27 2007 at 22:51 |
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bluetailfly
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Posted: September 27 2007 at 22:52 |
schizoid_man77 wrote:
Check out the rescent thread "An intelligent comment about ELP" |
Oh, okay, I get it. Please accept my apologies for the Magma dig, it was a knee jerk reaction...
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Dim
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Posted: September 27 2007 at 22:54 |
Thass okay homeslice, I think you may want to be apologizing to Rileydogg before he summons the power of Vander to go after your poor soul! 
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: September 27 2007 at 23:00 |
rileydog22 wrote:
Ivan, they've actually had rights to their songs the whole time: They founded Manticore Records before the release of Tarkus, and released all of their material since then on the label. They run the record label, so they had rights to the songs since they were written. Everything from Love Beach to soda commercials to those godawful remixes has been entirely their fault, not contractual obligations or money-hungry record executives. |
Not correct either Rilleydog, they owned Manticore Records but they had a contract signed with Atlantic (I believe they received money in advance) that forced them to release Love Beach despite they wanted to call a day.
- Trilogy: LP Island ILPS9186 (1972)
Cotillion / Atlantic Records 1972; re-released 1996 on Rhino {USA / Canada}
- Brain Salad Surgery: LP Manticore / Atlantic Records 1973; ; re-released 1996 on Rhino {USA / Canada}, as yo see it was released worldwide by Atlantic and their representatives in USA Rhino, today Manticore records oown the copyright becauuse the 25 years period has ended).
- Love Beach:
| 1996 |
CD |
Rhino |
72231 |
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CD |
Atlantic |
AMYCD217 |
| 1978 |
LP |
Atlantic |
19211 |
| 1999 |
CD |
Import |
60643 |
| 1996 |
CD |
Castle |
ESM363 |
| 1993 |
CD |
Victory Music |
480028 |
| 2006 |
CD |
JVC Japan |
63226 |
| 1999 |
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Import |
60643 |
| 2001 |
CD |
Castle |
226 |
| In 1978, the band had wanted to take a few years off to pursue solo projects, but Atlantic Records wouldn't let ELP out of its contract. The label demanded a new studio album, as required in its agreement.
ELP was forced to head to Compass Point Studios in The Bahamas to record what would become Love Beach. Love Beach was a disjointed, uninspired collection of songs released in mid 1979, It also marked the end of ELP for 12 years.
http://www.emersonlakepalmer.com/bio.html |
As you see, they had a contract with Atlantic records, so Atlantic co-owned this music for a period of 25 years according to the British Act of 1988.
They could own the music as authors, but the copyright used to belong to Atlantic Records.
Iván
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rileydog22
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Posted: September 27 2007 at 23:01 |
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Damn...why the hell did they make the record label then?
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Dim
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Posted: September 27 2007 at 23:02 |
Theres no way I can compete with that statement Ivan!!!
I applaude you  |
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rileydog22
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Posted: September 27 2007 at 23:04 |
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Ivan pwns me yet again...This is getting kind of repetitive.
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bluetailfly
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Posted: September 27 2007 at 23:04 |
Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:
They could own the music as authors, but the copyright used to belong to Atlantic Records.
Iván |
But I don't know if that necessarily means Atlantic or whatever company could use their songs in advertising without their consent. This is the missing piece of information.
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"The red polygon's only desire / is to get to the blue triangle."
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Dim
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Posted: September 27 2007 at 23:05 |
bluetailfly wrote:
Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:
They could own the music as authors, but the copyright used to belong to Atlantic Records.
Iván |
But I don't know if that necessarily means Atlantic or whatever company could use their songs in advertising without their consent. This is the missing piece of information. |
That was a mistake!!!! Prepare to feel the wrat of Ivan
Edited by schizoid_man77 - September 27 2007 at 23:05
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bluetailfly
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Posted: September 27 2007 at 23:08 |
schizoid_man77 wrote:
bluetailfly wrote:
Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:
They could own the music as authors, but the copyright used to belong to Atlantic Records.
Iván |
But I don't know if that necessarily means Atlantic or whatever company could use their songs in advertising without their consent. This is the missing piece of information. |
That was a mistake!!!! Prepare to feel the wrat of Ivan |
I know. It may get ugly ...
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"The red polygon's only desire / is to get to the blue triangle."
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Dim
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Posted: September 27 2007 at 23:09 |
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AWESOME AVVY!!!
Edited by schizoid_man77 - September 27 2007 at 23:09
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bluetailfly
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Posted: September 27 2007 at 23:10 |
bluetailfly wrote:
schizoid_man77 wrote:
bluetailfly wrote:
Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:
They could own the music as authors, but the copyright used to belong to Atlantic Records.
Iván |
But I don't know if that necessarily means Atlantic or whatever company could use their songs in advertising without their consent. This is the missing piece of information. |
That was a mistake!!!! Prepare to feel the wrat of Ivan |
I know. It may get ugly ... |
I mean from an aesthetic standpoint, what with all the colors and font sizes and all...
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Dim
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Posted: September 27 2007 at 23:11 |
bluetailfly wrote:
bluetailfly wrote:
schizoid_man77 wrote:
bluetailfly wrote:
Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:
They could own the music as authors, but the copyright used to belong to Atlantic Records.
Iván |
But I don't know if that necessarily means Atlantic or whatever company could use their songs in advertising without their consent. This is the missing piece of information. |
That was a mistake!!!! Prepare to feel the wrat of Ivan |
I know. It may get ugly ... |
I mean from an aesthetic standpoint, what with all the colors and font sizes and all... |
Yup, you're basically toaste
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