Meshuggah?

Ok I must say I don't really like Meshuggah's music, I don't think they're Prog at all, they're just a metal band, and pity we found them in a "Prog site", I don't think they have much to do here, I really think they do belong to metal sites only, it's just too noisy and pointless stuff to me, some people even say they're some sort of "avant-metal" but I don't quite agree with that, in fact there are plenty of much better metal bands to check out, IMO.
(This is not a hate-poll , I just want to know what's your thinking about Meshuggah )

Now, what do you think of them?



Edited by P.H.P. - September 27 2007 at 22:14

Definitely a progressive metal band, and yeah they are one of the finest out there. One of my all time favorites. They are clearly not foe everybody. What other progressive metal bands do you like (that is if you even like one)?  What albums have you heard from Meshuggah  so far?

They are prog, they arn't the best, they arn't the worst, over all a good listen though they are hard to listen to for long periods of time, just to much for me.

They're a Prog Metal band and a good one at that. They mix the qualities of math rock with the attitude of metal.

I can see why you don't like them, but they're still prog (metal).

Proletariat wrote: They are prog, they arn't the best, they arn't the worst, over all a good listen though they are hard to listen to for long periods of time, just to much for me.

I identify with you on that one. When I start a Meshuggah album, I think "$%&# Yea! I love this band!", I can't wait for that noise to come out of the speakers. But after about an hour or so (especially on Chaosphere) I feel exhausted of the constant grind.

But maybe that's what I like about them: to me they represent the idea of not compromising, being relentless, $&%#ing ostinato!

explodingjosh wrote: Proletariat wrote: They are prog, they arn't the best, they arn't the worst, over all a good listen though they are hard to listen to for long periods of time, just to much for me. I identify with you on that one. When I start a Meshuggah album, I think "$%&# Yea! I love this band!", I can't wait for that noise to come out of the speakers. But after about an hour or so (especially on Chaosphere) I feel exhausted of the constant grind. But maybe that's what I like about them: to me they represent the idea of not compromising, being relentless, $&%#ing ostinato!

P.H.P. wrote: Majestic_Mayhem wrote: Definitely a progressive metal band, and yeah they are one of the finest out there. One of my all time favorites. They are clearly not foe everybody. What other progressive metal bands do you like (that is if you even like one)?  What albums have you heard from Meshuggah  so far? Haven't seen my post about Opeth? well, I do like some metal and what I find to be really Progressive Metal bands, I must admit, but as I said I'm very selective with metal...and I can say, for my bad luck that I have heard several Messhuggah albums, destroy...,catch 33, nothing, chaosphere aaand "I"... I probably was expecting something else, because I didn't find anything to like in Meshuggah's "music", because most of times I can't say they're really musical, even for a metal band.

Well, what do you consider music? We're talking about meshuggah here, we do need to define it. Many would just call it noise.  I find the tension within the grind very musical. But no, they're not really musical in the same sense as other bands. Tool looks like Pink Floyd next to them.

chamberry wrote: They're a Prog Metal band and a good one at that. They mix the qualities of math rock with the attitude of metal. I can see why you don't like them, but they're still prog (metal).

Hm, I do really think that the conception of what Prog music is has changed for bad through years (mostly in the last 20 years), probably that's what happens with this band, because to me they don't sound Prog at all, they are just metal and let me tell you something...

among metalheads bands like these are rejected even hated, don't ask why, but metalheads must have their reasons to do so, think...

but don't worry, the original Prog conception is still there present, and it's expressed through Prog purists to keep the original Prog Rock conception alive, which I really aprecciate, but if you ask me, I must admit, I'm not a purist in Prog music, though my tastes are highly focused in Prog music...

Majestic_Mayhem wrote:  I know many people in the underground metal scene here in the Philippines who despise, reject and even hated Meshuggah coz of their association to the music we call progressive.

Hmm, I'm talking about metalheads, not music haters, see there's no need to hate one style, unless you think that music is something to compete; see my own example, I don't like most punk and alternative music, but I simply don't hate it.

EDIT:...and probably metalheads dislike them because of their association with 90's alternative metal and of course "nu" metal, who knows, but I'm not exaggerating.


Edited by P.H.P. - September 27 2007 at 23:22

I chose genius...and note that they aren't my favorite band and probably not even in my top 30.
They brought something new to the genre and their music revolves heavily around rythm and heaviness.
The only downfall is that you have to be in one and only one mood to listen to them...'pissed off'.
Most prog-metal bands mention them as in influence...they are a very influential band.

To end this....they are an extremely unique band that blends simple bone crushing riffs, to very complex time signatures and has a Holdsworth infuenced guitarist (Fredrik Thordendal).

The vocals and heaviness can be a turn-off to anyone...I wouldn't blame them anyway.

Edited by ProgBagel - September 27 2007 at 23:26