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Blacksword
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Posted: September 26 2007 at 10:49 |
So many gems to choose from. Lifeson has a very unique style and sound. His work on the last Porcupine Tree album was very good. not his best solo, but instantly recognisable as him.
My favourites are:
Xanadu (overall favourite)
Between the Wheels
La Villa Strangiato
No one at the Bridge
Freewill
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neo eric
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Posted: September 26 2007 at 10:57 |
About "overrated"..
I hope everyone assumes that we're always talking about and presenting our OPINIONS, since not many do believe in rights and wrongs - considering the taste in such issues. Hence it's not (IMO) wrong to use "overrated".
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LudwigVan1
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Posted: September 26 2007 at 11:02 |
YYZ
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Blacksword
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Posted: September 26 2007 at 11:04 |
neo eric wrote:
About "overrated"..I hope everyone assumes that we're always talking about and presenting our OPINIONS, since not many do believe in rights and wrongs - considering the taste in such issues.Hence it's not (IMO) wrong to use "overrated".
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The 'O' word is not popular around here. You may wish to find a more descriptive way to express your dissaproval of something.
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neo eric
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Posted: September 26 2007 at 12:00 |
Blacksword wrote:
neo eric wrote:
About "overrated"..I hope everyone assumes that we're always talking about and presenting our OPINIONS, since not many do believe in rights and wrongs - considering the taste in such issues.Hence it's not (IMO) wrong to use "overrated".
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The 'O' word is not popular around here. You may wish to find a more descriptive way to express your dissaproval of something. |
Yeah, I also like to hear/read more detailed analysis (though it sometimes is better, or at least more practical, to express oneself concise..)
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Snipergoat
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Posted: September 26 2007 at 15:48 |
The Necromancer.
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Melomaniac
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Posted: September 26 2007 at 16:20 |
Red Sector A. Not only is his solo amazing, the entire guitar work in that song is great !
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Blacksword
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Posted: September 26 2007 at 18:01 |
Melomaniac wrote:
Red Sector A. Not only is his solo amazing, the entire guitar work in that song is great ! |
Definitely. I think GUP is a great guitar album generally.
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theanalogkid82
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Posted: September 26 2007 at 22:05 |
Blacksword wrote:
Melomaniac wrote:
Red Sector A. Not only is his solo amazing, the entire guitar work in that song is great ! |
Definitely. I think GUP is a great guitar album generally. |
I think GUP has some of his best playing, right behind Hemispheres. the first solo in hemispheres blows me away every time i listen to it. analog kid, xanadu, yyz, and la villa are also amazing.
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Dim
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Posted: September 26 2007 at 22:47 |
staunchally wrote:
White Shadow wrote:
schizoid_man77 wrote:
Lifeson is an average pentatonic playing classic rock guitar player. I think we overblow his talent way me then what it really is!
La villa strangiato, probably one of his best for such a poor range. | back that up with examples because he definately uses many different modes and scales like Phrygian and locrian. I forget what one(s) is/are in locrian but I read somewhere that La Villa is in phrygian. |
I don't know if schizoidman77 meant to be taken so literally, but he is largely correct. Lifeson did start to stretch a bit about '77. He plays Aeolian in La Villa and I agree it's pretty good but he doesn't quite have the chops to pull it off completely. He's trying to play like Al Dimeola and his technique isn't quite up to par.
I don't mean any of this as a put down, I like Alex and technique isn't everything. These are just observations. He can be a bit sloppy and "hides" behind loads of effects.
That being said my favorite solo is "Red Barchetta". |
I love how he stresses the notes on his solo's, and plays with different picking techniques, but seriously, I cant even listen to working man anymore because his solo is so sloppy. The effects are a major thing to, He seems to be empowering his guitar behing millions of different kinds of distortion to keep his guitar as powerful as possible. I find this very disrespectful.
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Pezmerga
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Posted: September 27 2007 at 03:10 |
Working Man is better Live nowadays anyway. The solo on R:30's Working man is amazing.
Anyway...I'll go for Freewill or Xanadu.
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ProgShine
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Posted: September 27 2007 at 04:34 |
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I read somewhere that one of his favorites was Chemistry. Ho can anyone say he is overrated. I think he is underappreciated . |
Agree
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Blacksword
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Posted: September 27 2007 at 05:16 |
ProgShine wrote:
proggy wrote:
I read somewhere that one of his favorites was Chemistry. Ho can anyone say he is overrated. I think he is underappreciated . |
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Me too! He is, if anything totally 'underated' I dont know why this should be. His style and sound are unique. He can shred with the best of the metal heroes, play beautiful acoustic guitar, and come up with very memorable classic riffs.
I was talking to a 'rock fan' at work recently and he said he thought Lifeson was the 'weakest link' in Rush, which really bugged me. Lifeson is one of three very integral memebers. None of them could be replaced, and the Rush formula preserved.
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E-Dub
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Posted: September 27 2007 at 10:00 |
Blacksword wrote:
Melomaniac wrote:
Red Sector A. Not only is his solo amazing, the entire guitar work in that song is great ! |
Definitely. I think GUP is a great guitar album generally. |
When I started a 'definitive Lifeson performance album' thread about a year ago, I chose Grace Under Pressure as being my personal favorite. There's something so cold in Lifeson's delivery that works perfectly in the harshness of Grace Under Pressure. I find it to be a pretty raw album, and Lifeson's playing is a reflection of that. And anyone who says Lifeson is overrated, well all I have to say (and to quote Monty Python) is, "I f*rt in your general direction!!" E
Edited by E-Dub - September 27 2007 at 10:00
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sean
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Posted: September 27 2007 at 10:15 |
he has so many great ones, but i would probably go with la villa strangiato
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Padraic
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Posted: September 27 2007 at 10:17 |
Blacksword wrote:
I was talking to a 'rock fan' at work recently and he said he thought Lifeson was the 'weakest link' in Rush, which really bugged me. |
To him I say nonsense. The Rush sound is what it is because of Alex.
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Tony R
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Posted: September 27 2007 at 10:50 |
schizoid_man77 wrote:
staunchally wrote:
White Shadow wrote:
schizoid_man77 wrote:
Lifeson is an average pentatonic playing classic rock guitar player. I think we overblow his talent way me then what it really is!
La villa strangiato, probably one of his best for such a poor range. | back that up with examples because he definately uses many different modes and scales like Phrygian and locrian. I forget what one(s) is/are in locrian but I read somewhere that La Villa is in phrygian. |
I don't know if schizoidman77 meant to be taken so literally, but he is largely correct. Lifeson did start to stretch a bit about '77. He plays Aeolian in La Villa and I agree it's pretty good but he doesn't quite have the chops to pull it off completely. He's trying to play like Al Dimeola and his technique isn't quite up to par.
I don't mean any of this as a put down, I like Alex and technique isn't everything. These are just observations. He can be a bit sloppy and "hides" behind loads of effects.
That being said my favorite solo is "Red Barchetta". |
I love how he stresses the notes on his solo's, and plays with different picking techniques, but seriously, I cant even listen to working man anymore because his solo is so sloppy. The effects are a major thing to, He seems to be empowering his guitar behing millions of different kinds of distortion to keep his guitar as powerful as possible. I find this very disrespectful. |
Disrespectful? To whom? Lifeson is all about creating textures and a wall of sound to make the band sound bigger than a three-piece. Course he uses effects that's what he's chosen to create his style. He creates atmosphere and also endeavours to play both lead and rhythm. It's all about imagination and not technique. He's been FAR more influential than than the likes of Petrucci and virtually patented his early 80s chorus and arpeggio sound. One only has to listen to a track like The Trees or Red Barchetta to see Lifeson's superior imagination at play. The way he evokes "hatchets, axe and saw" In The Trees and the "mechanical music,adrenalin surge" rush of pistons pumping on classic motor car, amongst a plethora of tracks and examples, is truly cinematic and something one doesnt see that often amongst more celebrated, and might I add less imaginative, technicians
Edited by Tony R - September 27 2007 at 10:51
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Melomaniac
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Posted: September 27 2007 at 11:00 |
I think Lifeson is such an all-around complete player that he doesn't need to rely solely on his technical abilities to express himself, and very few guitarists actually reach that level of creativity without falling into the technical contraptions.
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Blacksword
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Posted: September 27 2007 at 11:00 |
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Melomaniac
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Posted: September 27 2007 at 11:03 |
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