Deep Purple is here to stay!

Just discovering this thread...

Edited by Fassbinder - September 27 2006 at 11:37

I do! Perhaps we can get him into Art Rock....

Symphonic is out of my hands now... Let's see what we can do!

Ok, i agree with most of you but Led Zep got the Polar Prize (like Nobel music) in their style...remember, by the Sweeden's King....

Bob Greece wrote: Where can I buy a progometer?

I have one, but it doesn't work. It was made in 1973, and you can't find parts for it anymore.

Long lost ghost, indeed ...

Certif1ed wrote: krauthead wrote: Deep Purple have done lots for the rock genre and what have Queen done as big as that (I really want to know). That's easy; Right from the start they used intricate vocal harmonies - a bit like Uriah Heep's, but more so. These were way beyond other bands of the time - and way beyond anything any band is doing now. In fact, if a band does anything that sounds remotely intricate in the vocal harmonies department, then they get compared to Queen. Brian May's legendary guitar playing runs the gamut - there are few styles he doesn't touch upon, unlike Ritchie Blackmore (as a random example), who had blues influences and "Classical" influences (a few cycles of fifths, major and minor scales and that's about it). Queen used tape loops to create massive walls of sound that very few bands have managed to imitate - and it's not easy to write melodies that work with each other. I've composed rounds in the past, and they're downright fiendish. This is a hugely innovative (read Progressive) aspect of Queen. Freddie's piano playing may not have been Rakhmaninov - but neither were Kieth Emerson, Rick Wakeman, Tony Banks et al. He created some excellent moods with what he did on the piano - think of "Death on Two Legs" as a single example. Freddie's vocals. 'nuff said. Now onto the music itself: Where to start? All the songs are so completely different, immersed in styles from various eras - and not simply limited to Rock music either. How can it not be Prog? But the biggest clincher of all is the use of skillfully composed pieces of music that have a spontaneous feel - not a jam session, but music that evolves and develops as you listen. This is the absolute core of the definition of Prog Rock. And you can hear this on their very first albums. If you have ears, that is

staunchally wrote: Certif1ed wrote: krauthead wrote: Deep Purple have done lots for the rock genre and what have Queen done as big as that (I really want to know). That's easy; Right from the start they used intricate vocal harmonies - a bit like Uriah Heep's, but more so. These were way beyond other bands of the time - and way beyond anything any band is doing now. In fact, if a band does anything that sounds remotely intricate in the vocal harmonies department, then they get compared to Queen. Brian May's legendary guitar playing runs the gamut - there are few styles he doesn't touch upon, unlike Ritchie Blackmore (as a random example), who had blues influences and "Classical" influences (a few cycles of fifths, major and minor scales and that's about it). Queen used tape loops to create massive walls of sound that very few bands have managed to imitate - and it's not easy to write melodies that work with each other. I've composed rounds in the past, and they're downright fiendish. This is a hugely innovative (read Progressive) aspect of Queen. Freddie's piano playing may not have been Rakhmaninov - but neither were Kieth Emerson, Rick Wakeman, Tony Banks et al. He created some excellent moods with what he did on the piano - think of "Death on Two Legs" as a single example. Freddie's vocals. 'nuff said. Now onto the music itself: Where to start? All the songs are so completely different, immersed in styles from various eras - and not simply limited to Rock music either. How can it not be Prog? But the biggest clincher of all is the use of skillfully composed pieces of music that have a spontaneous feel - not a jam session, but music that evolves and develops as you listen. This is the absolute core of the definition of Prog Rock. And you can hear this on their very first albums. If you have ears, that is        I can see you're obviously a Queen fan. I like Brian May too but it sounds like you're being a bit dismissive of Blackmore's playing (blues and "classical" influences). I do believe he was one of, if not the first to combine the two which is saying quite a bit. And mostly major and minor scales? Well, all music is comprised of major and minor scales. Mozart was nothing but major and minor scales.   Brian May really isn't all that versatile ( not a bad thing, you just mentioned that there are few styles he hasn't touched upon). Steve Howe would be a good example of someone who has touched upon many styles.

a bump of sorts....  if there is one thing I love seeing.. it is Mark when he gets going..  hey newb... don't argue music with CertIfied.  There are certain things you don't do at PA's

1. argue music theory with Mark (Cert!fied)
2. argue with Ivan at all hahahah
3. argue with TonyR about Peart's lyrical abilitity
4. mention Deep Purple being a 'prog' group
5. hahahha even worse.. mention Iron Maiden being a prog group
6.  cry  at Prog Archives...
7. praise Pattrucci's new lettuce.... or anything about him for that matter
8.  get a staight answer at to what exactly.. 'post rock' is.
9.  mention Phil Collins outside of his drumming wiht Genesis
10. ever find the Neo-Prog team when you need one of them

micky wrote: staunchally wrote: Certif1ed wrote: krauthead wrote: Deep Purple have done lots for the rock genre and what have Queen done as big as that (I really want to know). That's easy; Right from the start they used intricate vocal harmonies - a bit like Uriah Heep's, but more so. These were way beyond other bands of the time - and way beyond anything any band is doing now. In fact, if a band does anything that sounds remotely intricate in the vocal harmonies department, then they get compared to Queen. Brian May's legendary guitar playing runs the gamut - there are few styles he doesn't touch upon, unlike Ritchie Blackmore (as a random example), who had blues influences and "Classical" influences (a few cycles of fifths, major and minor scales and that's about it). Queen used tape loops to create massive walls of sound that very few bands have managed to imitate - and it's not easy to write melodies that work with each other. I've composed rounds in the past, and they're downright fiendish. This is a hugely innovative (read Progressive) aspect of Queen. Freddie's piano playing may not have been Rakhmaninov - but neither were Kieth Emerson, Rick Wakeman, Tony Banks et al. He created some excellent moods with what he did on the piano - think of "Death on Two Legs" as a single example. Freddie's vocals. 'nuff said. Now onto the music itself: Where to start? All the songs are so completely different, immersed in styles from various eras - and not simply limited to Rock music either. How can it not be Prog? But the biggest clincher of all is the use of skillfully composed pieces of music that have a spontaneous feel - not a jam session, but music that evolves and develops as you listen. This is the absolute core of the definition of Prog Rock. And you can hear this on their very first albums. If you have ears, that is        I can see you're obviously a Queen fan. I like Brian May too but it sounds like you're being a bit dismissive of Blackmore's playing (blues and "classical" influences). I do believe he was one of, if not the first to combine the two which is saying quite a bit. And mostly major and minor scales? Well, all music is comprised of major and minor scales. Mozart was nothing but major and minor scales.   Brian May really isn't all that versatile ( not a bad thing, you just mentioned that there are few styles he hasn't touched upon). Steve Howe would be a good example of someone who has touched upon many styles. a bump of sorts....  if there is one thing I love seeing.. it is Mark when he gets going..  hey newb... don't argue music with CertIfied.  There are certain things you don't do at PA's 1. argue music theory with Mark (Cert!fied) 2. argue with Ivan at all hahahah 3. argue with TonyR about Peart's lyrical abilitity 4. mention Deep Purple being a 'prog' group 5. hahahha even worse.. mention Iron Maiden being a prog group 6.  cry  at Prog Archives... 7. praise Pattrucci's new lettuce.... or anything about him for that matter 8.  get a staight answer at to what exactly.. 'post rock' is. 9.  mention Phil Collins outside of his drumming wiht Genesis 10. ever find the Neo-Prog team when you need one of them

staunchally wrote: micky wrote: staunchally wrote: Certif1ed wrote: krauthead wrote: Deep Purple have done lots for the rock genre and what have Queen done as big as that (I really want to know). That's easy; Right from the start they used intricate vocal harmonies - a bit like Uriah Heep's, but more so. These were way beyond other bands of the time - and way beyond anything any band is doing now. In fact, if a band does anything that sounds remotely intricate in the vocal harmonies department, then they get compared to Queen. Brian May's legendary guitar playing runs the gamut - there are few styles he doesn't touch upon, unlike Ritchie Blackmore (as a random example), who had blues influences and "Classical" influences (a few cycles of fifths, major and minor scales and that's about it). Queen used tape loops to create massive walls of sound that very few bands have managed to imitate - and it's not easy to write melodies that work with each other. I've composed rounds in the past, and they're downright fiendish. This is a hugely innovative (read Progressive) aspect of Queen. Freddie's piano playing may not have been Rakhmaninov - but neither were Kieth Emerson, Rick Wakeman, Tony Banks et al. He created some excellent moods with what he did on the piano - think of "Death on Two Legs" as a single example. Freddie's vocals. 'nuff said. Now onto the music itself: Where to start? All the songs are so completely different, immersed in styles from various eras - and not simply limited to Rock music either. How can it not be Prog? But the biggest clincher of all is the use of skillfully composed pieces of music that have a spontaneous feel - not a jam session, but music that evolves and develops as you listen. This is the absolute core of the definition of Prog Rock. And you can hear this on their very first albums. If you have ears, that is        I can see you're obviously a Queen fan. I like Brian May too but it sounds like you're being a bit dismissive of Blackmore's playing (blues and "classical" influences). I do believe he was one of, if not the first to combine the two which is saying quite a bit. And mostly major and minor scales? Well, all music is comprised of major and minor scales. Mozart was nothing but major and minor scales.   Brian May really isn't all that versatile ( not a bad thing, you just mentioned that there are few styles he hasn't touched upon). Steve Howe would be a good example of someone who has touched upon many styles. a bump of sorts....  if there is one thing I love seeing.. it is Mark when he gets going..  hey newb... don't argue music with CertIfied.  There are certain things you don't do at PA's 1. argue music theory with Mark (Cert!fied) 2. argue with Ivan at all hahahah 3. argue with TonyR about Peart's lyrical abilitity 4. mention Deep Purple being a 'prog' group 5. hahahha even worse.. mention Iron Maiden being a prog group 6.  cry  at Prog Archives... 7. praise Pattrucci's new lettuce.... or anything about him for that matter 8.  get a staight answer at to what exactly.. 'post rock' is. 9.  mention Phil Collins outside of his drumming wiht Genesis 10. ever find the Neo-Prog team when you need one of them   I hope this is a joke. I may be a newb, but I'm not some naive kid. I'm old (36). Opinions are fine but to say "Blackmore (or anybody) only plays major and minor scales" is silly. With the exception of diminished, augmented, chromatic and whole-tone, every scale is major or minor. I would say it's what every musician on PA largely bases his improvisation(s) on. Sorry for continuing to beat a dead horse but saying someone only plays major and minor scales is like saying Einstein wasn't a very good scientist because all he knew was physics.   But, as the kids today are fond of saying, "whatever".

hahhahah.. always a joke... a 'newb' in reference to some of the personalities... should have added as number 11, never expect a straight post from Micky... his tongue is prepetually  placed in cheek . 

I have to laugh though... you're 36 and calling yourself old.. you sound like me, at 38 I'm ready for the damned rest home myself... we actually have genuinely old people here though... TonyR has adopted me as his son...