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rileydog22
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Posted: September 20 2007 at 22:01 |
Visitor13 wrote:
And believe me, there are ways of making even the toughest people feel suicidal. |
I'm afraid you misunderstand my position on this matter; the reason that suicide will never be an option for me is not because I am "tough," but instead because of my firm belief that there is no life after death; you only get the time here you are allotted, and nothing could possibly make me want to cut that short. For me, life will always infinitely better than death, regardless of how gruesome the circumstances.
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sircosick
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Posted: September 20 2007 at 22:18 |
I always consider the possibility; I usually say "if a have a gun in my hands, I put it against my head and shot", but I've never got a gun....... however, the chance of leave this senseless life is always atractive and the unique guideline is not to suffer so much pain.
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The best you can is good enough...
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Drew
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Posted: September 20 2007 at 22:34 |
Im very surprised at the results- Very.
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Novalis
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Posted: September 20 2007 at 22:42 |
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mrcozdude
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Posted: September 20 2007 at 22:52 |
was the joke about suicidal people not being dead supposed to be funny cuz their still alive?
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Novalis
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Posted: September 20 2007 at 23:02 |
I will confess to feeling the desire to run from my current life to make a new life at times.
But that's 'cos I love life and want the best from it.
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Peter
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Posted: September 20 2007 at 23:10 |
Frank Zappa - Suicide Chump
You say there ain't no use in livin' It's all a waste of time 'N you wanna throw your life away, well People that's just fine Go head on 'n get it over with then Find you a bridge 'n take a jump Just make sure you do it right the first time 'Cause nothin's worse than a Suicide Chump
You say there ain't no light a-shinin' Through the bushes up ahead 'N we're all gonna be so sorry When we find out you are dead Go head on and get it over with then Find you a bridge 'n take a jump Just make sure you do it right the first time 'Cause nothin's worse than a Suicide Chump
Now maybe you're scared of jumpin' 'N poison makes you sick 'N you want a little attention 'N you need it pretty quick Don't wanna mess your face up Or we won't know if it's you Aw, there's just so much to worry about Now what you gonna do? Go head on 'n get it over with then Go head on 'n get it over with then Go head on 'n get it over with then Go head on 'n get it over with then
Edited by Peter - September 20 2007 at 23:17
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy.
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The Miracle
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Posted: September 22 2007 at 18:07 |
Never ever
Yeah, I get in some trouble, and I may get into some arguments with people I love, but suicide will never be a solution I would ever consider to get rid of some pain.
unless I lived in seatle...
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Leningrad
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Posted: September 22 2007 at 18:12 |
schizoid_man77 wrote:
Never ever
Yeah, I get in some trouble, and I may get into some arguments with people I love, but suicide will never be a solution I would ever consider to get rid of some pain.
unless I lived in seatle... |
I live about half an hour away from the one time car theft capital of North America.
But, honestly, I've been depressed and lonely, but would never consider suicide.
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debrewguy
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Posted: September 23 2007 at 00:14 |
Blacksword wrote:
I have had repeated run ins with depression and used to day dream about dying, but never actually planned or seriously considered doing myself in.
I hate it when people claim that suicide is the 'cowards way out' Taking ones own life takes courage and conviction. No matter how bad things may be in your life, actually ending your own life goes against ones basic gut instincts for survival. |
I hate to quote Ann Landers, but she said it best when she said that suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem. If & when you get to that point, please understand that it is time to seek professional help. From a diagnosed Bi-polar friend.
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"Here I am talking to some of the smartest people in the world and I didn't even notice,” Lieutenant Columbo, episode The Bye-Bye Sky-High I.Q. Murder Case.
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debrewguy
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Posted: September 23 2007 at 00:18 |
Peter wrote:
Frank Zappa - Suicide Chump
You say there ain't no use in livin' It's all a waste of time 'N you wanna throw your life away, well People that's just fine Go head on 'n get it over with then Find you a bridge 'n take a jump Just make sure you do it right the first time 'Cause nothin's worse than a Suicide Chump
You say there ain't no light a-shinin' Through the bushes up ahead 'N we're all gonna be so sorry When we find out you are dead Go head on and get it over with then Find you a bridge 'n take a jump Just make sure you do it right the first time 'Cause nothin's worse than a Suicide Chump
Now maybe you're scared of jumpin' 'N poison makes you sick 'N you want a little attention 'N you need it pretty quick Don't wanna mess your face up Or we won't know if it's you Aw, there's just so much to worry about Now what you gonna do? Go head on 'n get it over with then Go head on 'n get it over with then Go head on 'n get it over with then Go head on 'n get it over with then
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Ya know, sometimes Zappa had his head up his ass when it came to putting his beliefs out there. In this case here, he could probably see his esophagus. OF course, he died of lung cancer. Not bad for a non-druggie. If you don't count nicotine as a drug, which apparently his self righteous ass didn't think so.
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"Here I am talking to some of the smartest people in the world and I didn't even notice,” Lieutenant Columbo, episode The Bye-Bye Sky-High I.Q. Murder Case.
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debrewguy
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Posted: September 23 2007 at 00:19 |
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"Here I am talking to some of the smartest people in the world and I didn't even notice,” Lieutenant Columbo, episode The Bye-Bye Sky-High I.Q. Murder Case.
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debrewguy
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Posted: September 23 2007 at 00:23 |
Visitor13 wrote:
Pardon the graphic description, but if I was lying somehere near my crashed car on a side road at night with my bones broken and intestines strewn about, I would definitely consider suicide a good thing.
And believe me, there are ways of making even the toughest people feel suicidal. |
Just as there are ways of making the weakest people feel strong. NEVER EVER EVER FORGET THAT IF THERE IS ONE PERSON IN THIS WORLD, EVEN ON THE OFF CHANCE THAT ONE PERSON WOULD BE AFFECTED BY YOUR SUICIDE, YOU MUST THINK OF THAT. NOT BECAUSE THE OTHER PERSON'S FEELINGS ARE MORE IMPORTANT THAN YOURS, BUT BECAUSE YOUR LIFE, YOUR BEING ALIVE, MEANS SOMETHING TO SOMEONE ELSE. Caps unlocked, heart closes up again. Please, life is a long road. The stretch you're on today is no indication of what may come down the road.
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"Here I am talking to some of the smartest people in the world and I didn't even notice,” Lieutenant Columbo, episode The Bye-Bye Sky-High I.Q. Murder Case.
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Revan
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Posted: September 23 2007 at 00:26 |
I've been depressed but not to the point of suicidal thoughts.
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debrewguy
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Posted: September 23 2007 at 00:26 |
Melomaniac wrote:
Lucent wrote:
I love how over half of the people who voted on this thread are a bunch of emo kids.
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Funny you should write that, as you're the only one who wrote in this thread that is unuder 18 years of age (at least in the 4th page)...
Just a few words of caution, newbie : don't insult too many people here, especially if you have not been insulted in the first place. |
P.S. You may want to add that Alcohol is more often a factor in Suicides than Depression. Talk about your surprising risk factors, eh.
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"Here I am talking to some of the smartest people in the world and I didn't even notice,” Lieutenant Columbo, episode The Bye-Bye Sky-High I.Q. Murder Case.
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debrewguy
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Posted: September 23 2007 at 00:32 |
activetopics wrote:
Ive been really really depressed and have considered it somewhat, but given the reasons for being depressed, I figured things would get better and they did. Not to mention it goes directly against my religion. Everyone gets the blues.
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Da blues ? Now that's an understatement ! Just hope that you never ever ever get that dark feeling where you just can't or don't want to resist the temptation to solve your temporary problems with a permanent solution. Religious interdictions rarely work. Which would you prefer - the hell that your church prescribes or the hell you sincerely believe you are living ? So if you say you've been really depressed, my feeling is that all you really were is kinda blue. There is a BIG BIG difference, OK ! Oh, and by the way, if your answer or prescription for someone who is actually clinically depressed (yes, there is a defining line) is that they "snap" out of it, it says a lot more about your understanding of the illness than you care to know. SMARTEN UP.
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"Here I am talking to some of the smartest people in the world and I didn't even notice,” Lieutenant Columbo, episode The Bye-Bye Sky-High I.Q. Murder Case.
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rileydog22
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Posted: September 23 2007 at 00:35 |
Actually, Zappa died of PROSTATE cancer.
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debrewguy
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Posted: September 23 2007 at 00:35 |
JJLehto wrote:
Alot of people I know have, at one point, seriously considered it. I
don't see anything wrong with it, since a lot of people have thought of
it. As long as you don't carry it out.
And no. Actually I never have considered it.
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I DO SEE SOMETHING WRONG WITH IT. At a certain point, it is a sign that professional help may be needed. And I don't mean just when someone is thinking that things are tough. I mean when they're just hanging on by a thread.
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"Here I am talking to some of the smartest people in the world and I didn't even notice,” Lieutenant Columbo, episode The Bye-Bye Sky-High I.Q. Murder Case.
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debrewguy
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Posted: September 23 2007 at 00:38 |
rileydog22 wrote:
Never even crosses my mind. We only get, say, 70 or 80 years (maybe even a few more if we're lucky!) on this planet, and then its all over. It strikes me as so ludicrously stupid to take your own life that I can't even find strong enough words to describe it.
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For your sake, let's hope you never find the thoughts strong enough to justify it. Those most vulnerable are those who take the possibility the lightest - "It could never happen to me ... until the bullet hits the bone ..."
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"Here I am talking to some of the smartest people in the world and I didn't even notice,” Lieutenant Columbo, episode The Bye-Bye Sky-High I.Q. Murder Case.
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