Suicide

Interestingly enough, although bipolar depression seems to run in the family, I've never come close to considering suicide, nor have I ever been seriously depressed.

Of course, I have my ups and downs, but seeing how a family member has struggled with severe depression for a decade, calling my not-so-good days a depression might be stretching it a little.


Edited by Jimbo - September 16 2007 at 12:05

fandango wrote: its interesting that you used the expression 'the final solution', Raff..... I remember my Austrian Jewish Grandmother using the term to explain why almost her entire ancestry around Salzburg was liquidated during the early '40's...   farbeit from me to attempt to belittle anyone's personal problems, but there is a general trend among some growing up with the economic benefits and political stability of a first world country over the past 40 years, to become too self-indulgent, narcissistic and inward looking, for their own health...   no offence meant toward either Raff, or Andy, whatsoever....

None taken at all, good sir..

It's an important point you raise, but I have to say I have tried sparing a thought for 'those less fortunate than me' when I'm at my lowest eb, and to be frank I dont give a sh!t about them..

The only time I am upset or moved by the serious plight of others, is ironically when I am reasonably happy. It is only when I'm feeling relatively well adjusted that I can consider the feelings of others, and to a degree empathise. All mental illness, by it's very nature is 'selfish' through no fault of the sufferer, and forces the sufferer to constantly examine their own failings.

On a more positive note, I've known some very depressed individuals who have thrown themself into good causes in an attempt to put their own problems in some kind of context. In some cases it has worked well, and given them a sense of worth and value they lacked before. However, if their condition has led to 'co-dependency' where they seek constant approval for their actions to feel better about themselves, they will merely spend their lives dodging the very issues they need to tackle head on.

Damn- wrong tome to listen to Sigur Ros- and read this thread.....

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To answer the question- NO. Never- ever, ever. Too many surprises around every corner of life.




Edited by Drew - September 18 2007 at 00:07

Jim Garten wrote: Blacksword wrote: Often, the most happy of people are apparently the most stupid.. Ignorance is indeed bliss - interestingly enough, it's been found that those suffering from manic depression and/or bipolar episodes rarely take the last step during a 'down', it's nearly always on the 'up' phase; the argument being "I'm feeling good, but I know I'll feel bad soon, so I may as well check out on a high" (gross simplification, I know, but you get the idea).

I can see how they might arrive at that decision on a high, if they know only too well how bad the lows can be.

I had read that if you suspect someone you know is contemplating suicide, the signs to look out for are a sense of calm, almost content resignation, and also evidence that they may be 'getting their affairs in order'

It also seems that case that the sort of people who 'threaten' to commit suicide rarely do.

I had depression in my mid-teen life due to a crapload of acne, and a crappy and somewhat lonely life. Suicide definitively slipped my mind and I sometimes thought quite a bit about it, but I never seriously considered to attempt it due to two reasons:
_I would crush my loved ones
_I knew I had potential to a good future, academically speaking. (I was right, in my first 2 years of university, I haven't had anything lower than an A for now)

PS: I'm fine now


Edited by Zitro - September 19 2007 at 11:52

I love how over half of the people who voted on this thread are a bunch of emo kids.

Ive been really really depressed and have considered it somewhat, but given the reasons for being depressed, I figured things would get better and they did. Not to mention it goes directly against my religion. Everyone gets the blues. 

Yes, I was at that point several times. I remember thinking about the comment that It is a cowardly act. I don't see it that way. I was beaten down, and had no drive left to go on. To me it seemed perfectly logical. In a way it was. I couldn't go on living life the way I was. In a sense, I did die. That person no longer exists. However, I am glad that I was never able to actually end my physical existence. The life I have now has revealed many wondrous things to me. Had I not been able to turn everything around, there would have been no point in going on. But, neither would I have had the opportunity to do so.

No Way

You know what´s funny about suicidal people? That they still live!