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Darklord55 
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 Posted: September 19 2007 at 14:29 |
 P.H.P. wrote:
Darklord55 wrote:
Opeth IMHO is a band beyond description. As I said in an earlier post, their music is truly a sonic adventure to the ears. At least to my ears. Because of Opeth, I have also discovered similar bands, Dimmu Borgir, Novembers Doom, In Flames, Immortal and a few others. None of which imho top Opeth, but I still enjoy just the same. I believe a new Opeth DVD is due out soon also. I have read that GoP is on it.  |
Similar? 
...I don't find any of those bands similar to Opeth in any sense, those are just black metal, doom, death metal, not Prog like Opeth.
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 I didn't say any of those bands were PROG! Labels, labels, labels. What did I do with those  labels.
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Melomaniac
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Posted: September 19 2007 at 14:23 |
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In fact, it's wrong to call "Progressive Death Metal" as a genre or style, I think it doesn't exists since there aren't bands that do that, every band that has done more than common death metal bands are just technical or complex like Cynic or Atheist, not really Prog.
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Concerning Cynic, they were more of a metal jazz fusion unit than the average technical metal. Too bad they only released one album !
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Melomaniac
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Posted: September 19 2007 at 14:21 |
They only get labelled death metal, like you say, because of the vocals, AND the double bass drum beats. But I agree with you, it does injustice to this amazing band, among the best to appear on this music scene in a long, long while, along side bands like Porcupine Tree, The Mars Volta, Tool, etc...
Who knows, maybe one day Mikael will not be able to growl anymore and they'll release albums without the growls, then they will not be labelled death metal.
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P.H.P.
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Posted: September 19 2007 at 14:08 |
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In fact, it's wrong to call "Progressive Death Metal" as a genre or style, I think it doesn't exists since there aren't bands that do that, every band that has done more than common death metal bands are just technical or complex like Cynic or Atheist, not really Prog.
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P.H.P.
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Posted: September 19 2007 at 14:03 |
Darklord55 wrote:
Opeth IMHO is a band beyond description. As I said in an earlier post, their music is truly a sonic adventure to the ears. At least to my ears. Because of Opeth, I have also discovered similar bands, Dimmu Borgir, Novembers Doom, In Flames, Immortal and a few others. None of which imho top Opeth, but I still enjoy just the same. I believe a new Opeth DVD is due out soon also. I have read that GoP is on it. |
Similar? ...I don't find any of those bands similar to Opeth in any sense, those are just black metal, doom, death metal, not Prog like Opeth.
Edited by P.H.P. - September 19 2007 at 14:04
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Posted: September 19 2007 at 13:44 |
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Opeth is more about melody then anything else.
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Bj-1
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Posted: September 19 2007 at 13:16 |
Not my favorite prog-metal band, but they're still an excellent band and I really dig Blackwater Park, Deliverance and Morningrise. Ghost Reveries is very good as well.
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Darklord55
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Posted: September 19 2007 at 12:34 |
Opeth IMHO is a band beyond description. As I said in an earlier post, their music is truly a sonic adventure to the ears. At least to my ears. Because of Opeth, I have also discovered similar bands, Dimmu Borgir, Novembers Doom, In Flames, Immortal and a few others. None of which imho top Opeth, but I still enjoy just the same. I believe a new Opeth DVD is due out soon also. I have read that GoP is on it.
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FranMuzak
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Posted: September 19 2007 at 12:05 |
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Yeah, i think Opeth is one of the best Prog Metal bands today. Technical or not, they accomplish to create original Prog,which other bands don't. The combination of mellow/powerful music and soft/growling vocals is just amaizing.
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Posted: September 19 2007 at 09:48 |
Inevitably, when metal is combined with prog you get musical technicalities. Proof is the majority of prog metal bands listed here in PA are technical, one way or another. We can never deny the technical proficiency ( which I consider a side dish/apetizer rather than the main course) of Opeth but I definitely won't I recommend them to anyone who seeks technical music.
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Posted: September 19 2007 at 09:24 |
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^ it's surely technical - again it depends on how you define the word. Usually applying a tag like "technical" to a piece of music implies that the technicality is one of the most important aspect of it ... and I don't think that's the case with Opeth. Their music is very cleverly constructed - but the technically is more like a background aspect.
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Posted: September 19 2007 at 08:35 |
I can understand them getting lumped in with the Death Metal bands on the early albums although far superior to what usually goes as Death Metal.
I think quite a bit of their stuff is more technical than you give them credit for though, especially on Ghost Reveries.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: September 19 2007 at 03:01 |
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I agree ... even on their early records they weren't much related to Death Metal except for the vocal style.
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P.H.P.
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Posted: September 19 2007 at 01:03 |
Ok, from the first time I heard Opeth, I knew they were not the typical metal band, they were very very far from the common metal band... I'm not a metal fan really, I tend to be very selective with metal music, but I'm surprised some people say "No! Opeth is pure death metal", and I don't really found their music to be real death metal, it's with no doubt heavy music, but arguably not death metal, from what I see they only have the typical death metal vocals, and I don't think that's enough to call one band death metal, I think that's being too lazy and doing a very big injustice with the music of Opeth, which is truly Progressive Metal in the original meaning of "Prog", and no, they're not a technical band, they are really bringing back the Prog Rock feeling to Metal, so forget about complex made-up terms like "Progressive Death Metal", or "Technical/Melodic Death Metal" and anything like that, because honestly they don't fit any of those, Opeth's music to me is very rich, one of the best bands of the last time in matters of Progressive Metal, IMO what do you think? ...comment. 
Edited by P.H.P. - September 19 2007 at 01:03
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