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Raff
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Joined: July 29 2005
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Posted: September 13 2007 at 13:03 |
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The T
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Joined: October 16 2006
Location: FL, USA
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Posted: September 13 2007 at 14:08 |
Yes, he IS. His music may be poppy, but outstanding, worldy, interesting, progresive rock/pop at that. Even in his definitely poppy album SO, he still manages to give his songs an special atmosphere, use special instrumentations, he makes the album sound proggier than it is. UP and MELT are prog. US (to comment on all 4 PG albums that I have), well, kind of sucks but it's still an "elegant" album to use a good adjective.
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Dean
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Joined: May 13 2007
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Posted: September 13 2007 at 14:28 |
Now that Art Rock has split into three more easily managable sub-genres is there room for Peter Gabriel in Crossover Prog?
I think so, eventhough individual songs may not exactly fit the definition, the way the albums are constructed, the flow of songs, the instrumentation, unusual influences, lyrical structure and 'concepts' are prog. Also, as a musician he writes sublimely progressive music on those instrumental albums that occasionally get over looked when discussing his solo output (Birdy, Passion, Ovo, The Long Walk), some of which would almost qualify as Advant Prog.
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Raff
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Posted: September 13 2007 at 14:34 |
darqdean wrote:
Now that Art Rock has split into three more easily managable sub-genres is there room for Peter Gabriel in Crossover Prog?
I think so, eventhough individual songs may not exactly fit the definition, the way the albums are constructed, the flow of songs, the instrumentation, unusual influences, lyrical structure and 'concepts' are prog. Also, as a musician he writes sublimely progressive music on those instrumental albums that occasionally get over looked when discussing his solo output (Birdy, Passion, Ovo, The Long Walk), some of which would almost qualify as Advant Prog. |
Yes, definitely - Micky and I have discussed that quite often, and he intends moving PG to Crossover ASAP. In fact, a few months ago (before I temporarily retired from the site), there was a poll about moving PG to Art Rock, but the results were unclear, and the idea was abandoned for the time being. However, now the time is ripe for him to be moved to a category which is much more suitable to his music, because of the features you have just highlighted.
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memowakeman
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Joined: May 19 2005
Location: Mexico City
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Posted: September 13 2007 at 23:54 |
Ghost Rider wrote:
darqdean wrote:
Now that Art Rock has split into three more easily managable sub-genres is there room for Peter Gabriel in Crossover Prog?
I think so, eventhough individual songs may not exactly fit the definition, the way the albums are constructed, the flow of songs, the instrumentation, unusual influences, lyrical structure and 'concepts' are prog. Also, as a musician he writes sublimely progressive music on those instrumental albums that occasionally get over looked when discussing his solo output (Birdy, Passion, Ovo, The Long Walk), some of which would almost qualify as Advant Prog. |
Yes, definitely - Micky and I have discussed that quite often, and he intends moving PG to Crossover ASAP. In fact, a few months ago (before I temporarily retired from the site), there was a poll about moving PG to Art Rock, but the results were unclear, and the idea was abandoned for the time being. However, now the time is ripe for him to be moved to a category which is much more suitable to his music, because of the features you have just highlighted.
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Moving him to Crossover (if that is the most accurate prog genre for his music) would be great and a wise decision, i am agree with you guys , also last week-end i had a PG`s DVD show with P.O.V., Secret World and Growing Up, damn all of them are outstanding, the Growing Up DVD will be played next week here in a local cinema, that will be great
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micky
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Joined: October 02 2005
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Points: 46838
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Posted: September 14 2007 at 21:20 |
well this has been settled in the smoky back rooms of PA's...
Peter Gabriel is being moved to Crossover....
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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bhikkhu
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Joined: April 06 2006
Location: A² Michigan
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Posted: September 14 2007 at 21:40 |
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micky
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Posted: September 14 2007 at 21:44 |
we discussed Gabriel, along with some others some time ago.. .
just had to wait till the time was right. I had a little birdie
telling me that a category that would be right for him and others like
him would be coming here.
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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