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    Posted: September 08 2007 at 06:17
From time to time I find some prog bands which I can't find on this (probably the biggest) prog site. That's why I decided to write some bands which I think should be added here. Here is my list (I hope that it will be helpful for administrators to make this site even more complete):

1.Trikolon (Germany)
2.McPhee (Australia)
3.Hansson & Karlsson (Sweden)
4.Sixty Nine (Germany)
5.Attila (USA)
6.Hardin & York (USA)
7.Twogether (Germany)
8.Bodkin (England)
9.Food Brain (Japan)
10.Odyssey (USA)
11.Pesky Gee (England)
12.Weed (England-Germany)
13.Tyburn Tall (Germany)
14.8 Days in April (also known as solo Kravetz's project)(Germany)
15.Spectrum (Australia)
16.Spooky Tooth (England)
17.Freedom's Children (Republic of South Africa)
18.Brian Auger & The Trinity (England)
19.Harsh Reality (England)
20.Polyphony (USA)
21.Show of hands (USA)
22.Ford Theatre (USA)
23.Hunger (USA)
24.Valhalla (USA)
25.Pacific Sound (Switzerland)
26.Pugh's Place (Netherlands)
27.Andromeda (Germany)
28.P205 (Germany)
29.Electra (Germany)
30.Epsilon (Germany)
31.Faithful Breath (Germany)
32.Head Machine (England)
33.Mammut (Germany)
34.The Norman Haines Band (England)
35.Titanic (Norway)
36.Yasushi Ishii (Japan)

Anybody knows any other prog-bands not included on PA?

Edited by ozzy_tom - September 08 2007 at 06:21
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 08 2007 at 06:42
ozzy tom,
 
Boy I can relate to that!Bravo for your post!Clap
 
Here are a few other bands that should be on PA ,big freaking time;
 
-Electric Food(Germany)
-Asterix(Germany)
-Asia(USA)
-Electric Mud(Germany)
-Dull Knife(Germany)
-GOLDEN EARRING(Holland)
-Offenbach(Canada)
-Osmosis(USA)
-One(usa)
-Fred(Usa)
-Fuse(USA)
-Aut'Chose(Canada)
-Flower Travellin'Band(Japan)
-Starglow Energy(Swizerland)
-Viola Crayola(USA)
-Bloodrock(USA)
-American Tears(USA)
-Touch(USA)(not the 1969 band,a later one-1980)
 
And there is many more.I will try and come up with some.
 
Btw,you seem to know your prog.A lot of bands on your list,I know of,but some I don't.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 08 2007 at 07:33
Here are a few others;
 
-October(USA)
-Neil Merryweather(USA)
-Dillinger(Canada)
-The Hunt(Canada)
-Will-O The Wisp(Greece)
Progresive TM (Romania)
 
And there will be more.....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 08 2007 at 07:53
This belongs in the Suggest New Bands/Artists section.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 08 2007 at 08:34
HOW ABOUT DAVID BOWIE...................................
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 08 2007 at 08:39
If such bands are simply discussed, under a collective topic, instead of presented and suggested separately (with a clear mention in which genre they should go), our work, as Collaborators, will be very hard, if not impossible.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 08 2007 at 09:00
PATTO should be on ProgArchives! No one here know them?....they are a FANTASTIC jazz-rock band and i think that "PATTO" & "HOLD YOUR FIRE",their first two albums,are two BEAUTIFUL GEMS made in music!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 08 2007 at 10:01
Originally posted by seamus seamus wrote:

PATTO should be on ProgArchives! No one here know them?....they are a FANTASTIC jazz-rock band and i think that "PATTO" & "HOLD YOUR FIRE",their first two albums,are two BEAUTIFUL GEMS made in music!
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Patto have been discussed in the past, but I don't know how the whole thing ended - I remember some people entertaining doubts about how really prog they were.

However, you should remember that using capitals is usually considered bad form on the Web, since it is akin to shouting.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 08 2007 at 10:05
Originally posted by Ricochet Ricochet wrote:

If such bands are simply discussed, under a collective topic, instead of presented and suggested separately (with a clear mention in which genre they should go), our work, as Collaborators, will be very hard, if not impossible.


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I'd like to add something: if you are really keen to see a band or artist added to our DB, the best way to go about it is to contact a Special Collaborator, preferably someone who is part of a specialist genre team, and submit some samples to them, as well as all the relevant information you have about the act in question. Since only SCs can add bands, this is generally the fastest option available. Of course, in order to do so, you should have an idea of which subgenre the band belongs to, though this is not mandatory. Just remember that genre teams have often large backlogs of bands to add, and everyone here is working on a strictly voluntary basis.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 08 2007 at 11:16
Originally posted by proggy proggy wrote:

HOW ABOUT DAVID BOWIE...................................


David Bowie was never part of the Progressive Rock movement and his music never resembled anything associated with prog.

Even If he WAS influenced, however much, by progressive rock, influence of a music does not qualify another music to be put in the same category.

David Bowie should not be included, his music may be great whatever your opinion is, but he is not and never was a progressive rock musician.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 08 2007 at 11:47

OK, perhaps it's not the right place but I would like to support Ozzy Tom his post by saying: "a big hand for the Hammond B3 drenched sound of  Hansson & Karlsson, Odyssey and Brian Auger & The Trinity Clap !

The Rock: Golden Earring from Holland? Well, as a Dutchman I grew up with this awesome four piece band and I can say that the progrock aficionados will be pleased with their album Swith featuring Robert-Jan Stips (Supersister), highly recommended!

By the way Ricochet, what about Random Deeds and Combination Head, I have put these bands in the Suggested Bands category months ago but I am still waiting on the teams their decision about what category Confused ...
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 08 2007 at 11:56
Hansson & Karlsson will be added by Micky when he gets a new Internet connection, which should be very soon. He was about to add them when I was still in the USA with him, but then he got sidetracked by more serious matters. I'll remind him to go ahead with the addition when his connection is operative.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 08 2007 at 12:10
Originally posted by erik neuteboom erik neuteboom wrote:



By the way Ricochet, what about Random Deeds and Combination Head, I have put these bands in the Suggested Bands category months ago but I am still waiting on the teams their decision about what category Confused ...
 


If I remember correctly, Random Deeds was a band we couldn't find any samples off, so we decided, even with your good review guiding us consistently, to not accept the band until we get to musical sources.

Combination Head has two votes of rejection for Art Rock (you can see here: http://ratingfreak.com/home/progarchives/ar_chart.xhtml), it's pretty much a sealed case for AR. I know Symphonic Team also doesn't appreciate that it's style would fit the Symphonic genre, so it's a very edgy thing...Confused


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 08 2007 at 12:21

One of the main reasons to support an addition of Random Deeds and Combination Head on Prog Archives is that lots of progrock friends who listen to their music at my home are very pleased and sometimes delighted about these bands. In my opinion both bands match with the new category Crossover Prog, perhaps the team will trust my judgement and let me work on an addition, it's just a proposal because I have the idea that the categorizing of the bands take so much time that it harms the addition policy. One more example: last month I started to contact fellow collabroators and team members about an addition of Cozy Powell, in the end I was waiting and waiting ... no final reactions so I have stopped to put energy in adding Cozy Powell.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 08 2007 at 12:32
Originally posted by erik neuteboom erik neuteboom wrote:

One of the main reasons to support an addition of Random Deeds and Combination Head on Prog Archives is that lots of progrock friends who listen to their music at my home are very pleased and sometimes delighted about these bands. In my opinion both bands match with the new category Crossover Prog, perhaps the team will trust my judgement and let me work on an addition, it's just a proposal because I have the idea that the categorizing of the bands take so much time that it harms the addition policy. One more example: last month I started to contact fellow collabroators and team members about an addition of Cozy Powell, in the end I was waiting and waiting ... no final reactions so I have stopped to put energy in adding Cozy Powell.



Erik, I told you time and again that both Micky and I were in favour of adding Cozy Powell to the DB. I'll talk to Micky about adding him to Crossover, if the Jazz-Rock team doesn't think he fits in their category - or we could take him in Heavy Prog, provided David agrees.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 08 2007 at 12:45

Well Ghost Rider, I must have missed something if you say "I told you time and again about Cozy Powell" (I once read in a thread that you and Micky are positive about it) but for me the problem was that I contacted a few times Dick Heath about Cozy Powell and also one other member of the jazz rock/fusion team (I have forgotten who) but in the end the communication simply stopped and I have stopped to put so much extra time in adding bands, I prefer to focus on my Recommendation section threads, that's a more satisfying way of communication for me, I don't want to be frustrated and leave PA for a third time Wink

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 08 2007 at 12:59
Originally posted by ozzy_tom ozzy_tom wrote:

From time to time I find some prog bands which I can't find on this (probably the biggest) prog site. That's why I decided to write some bands which I think should be added here. Here is my list (I hope that it will be helpful for administrators to make this site even more complete):

1.Trikolon (Germany)
2.McPhee (Australia)
3.Hansson & Karlsson (Sweden)
4.Sixty Nine (Germany)
5.Attila (USA)
6.Hardin & York (USA)
7.Twogether (Germany)
8.Bodkin (England)
9.Food Brain (Japan)
10.Odyssey (USA)
11.Pesky Gee (England)
12.Weed (England-Germany)
13.Tyburn Tall (Germany)
14.8 Days in April (also known as solo Kravetz's project)(Germany)
15.Spectrum (Australia)
16.Spooky Tooth (England)
17.Freedom's Children (Republic of South Africa)
18.Brian Auger & The Trinity (England)
19.Harsh Reality (England)
20.Polyphony (USA)
21.Show of hands (USA)
22.Ford Theatre (USA)
23.Hunger (USA)
24.Valhalla (USA)
25.Pacific Sound (Switzerland)
26.Pugh's Place (Netherlands)
27.Andromeda (Germany)
28.P205 (Germany)
29.Electra (Germany)
30.Epsilon (Germany)
31.Faithful Breath (Germany)
32.Head Machine (England)
33.Mammut (Germany)
34.The Norman Haines Band (England)
35.Titanic (Norway)
36.Yasushi Ishii (Japan)

Anybody knows any other prog-bands not included on PA?
 
Please Ozzy_Tom...Could you add sub-genre and at least a link where to search for information, all the forum can't be working ion an addition, if you add the sub-genre, it would be easier.
 
Then the respective team will work, much better if you send all the Symphonic bands to the Symphonic STICKY thread and each one to their genres threads.
 
Thanks
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 08 2007 at 13:09
Originally posted by MajesterX MajesterX wrote:


David Bowie was never part of the Progressive Rock movement and his music never resembled anything associated with prog.


Untrue. The epic "Cygnet Committee", from Bowie's first 'proper' solo album, very strongly resembles something associated with prog. You could say similar things about other early Bowie stuff, such as "The width of a circle".

In my opinion, Bowie is ALMOST as proggy as Roxy Music and therefore he certainly belongs here, but the Powers that Be seem to have decided differently, and I see no need to kick up a fuss, 'cause you don't exactly need Progarchives to find out more about Bowie...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 08 2007 at 13:47
Erik, I will talk to David about revisiting Combination Head under the new Crossover conditions, if he agrees, we can check the band again.

About Random Deeds, we're however strict: we need music!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 08 2007 at 14:04
There are many Zeuhl and Avant Prog bands I know of, as do others, which have not been included in the archives (can find some of them mentioned in their respective threads and under consideration at the progtology link, oops EDIT, I meant ratingfreak, got those sited mixed up in my head -- not that it matters now since the discussion has evolved and so this post feels rather redundant and I hate to break up/ interrupt discussion).

Super Freego (Zeuhl)
Paga (Zeuhl)
Noa (Zeuhl)
Seffer Yochk'o (Zeuhl)

Avant Prog or Zeuhl for some cases

Yog Sothoth
ZNR
Ripaille
Pascal Duffard
Non Credo
ZNR
Patrick Gauthier

And lots more (in a rush), but those are some that I've been listening to the most over the last months.  Maybe some are already here and some are approved but the bios have to be written.  All are excellent, and this site would benefit from the inclusion.  Thanks to some members for turning me on to some of these bands.

Incidentally, I've been wanting to start a similar thread as this one for some time, not to suggest bands for inclusion so much (as there are other resources where one can find info on a  great deal of Zeuhl and Avant Prog bands not yet included in the archives, so it's not that important to me that they be here too), but as a recommendation discussion threads for people interested in bands under the Prog umbrella not included here.  Links to samples do help of course.

There are a great many suitable bands not included in the archives (both old and new), but of course there is so only so much time and resources that the site's staff can put in to the inclusion endeavor.  Some albums are quite rare.

Definitely, as Ivan noted, a good idea to mention those bands in the respective category threads.

As for Bowie, I would have thought he warranted inclusion on this site, but I think that there are many other bands/artists which have stronger cases.  He is progressive, but not particularly Prog (whatever that means) -- not neatly pigeonholed, but an Art Rock artist.

Perhaps more special collabs are warranted to deal with the backlog.  Rocktopus, Yukorin, and Laplace (excellent reviewer), for example, and RileyDog, would all be a boon to the site in this capacity (but might not have time to devote to such an undertaking) I know there are more names I'm forgetting -- very knowledgeable people (with great taste to boot -- subjectively speaking, of course).   I think it's amazing that the staff here do so much work, but they may be overworked.  This hobby shouldn't interfere with one's work, family, and social life, but I'm sure it does.  And of course everyone can help by suggesting bands and writing bios.  I wouldn't mind doing one of these once they make it in (though time and brain cells are limited).


Edited by Logan - September 08 2007 at 14:44
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